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Liverpool Football Club Thread

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History

Liverpool F.C. was founded following a dispute between the Everton committee and John Houlding, club president and owner of the land at Anfield. After eight years at the stadium, Everton relocated to Goodison Park in 1892 and Houlding founded Liverpool F.C. to play at Anfield. Originally named "Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd" (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in March 1892 and gained official recognition three months later, after The Football Association refused to recognise the club as Everton. The team won the Lancashire League in its début season, and joined the Football League Second Division at the start of the 1893–94 season. After finishing in first place the club was promoted to the First Division, which it won in 1901 and again in 1906.

Liverpool reached its first FA Cup Final in 1914, losing 1–0 to Burnley. It won consecutive League championships in 1922 and 1923, but did not win another trophy until the 1946–47 season, when the club won the First Division for a fifth time under the control of ex-West Ham Utd centre half George Kay. Liverpool suffered its second Cup Final defeat in 1950, playing against Arsenal. The club was relegated to the Second Division in the 1953–54 season. Soon after Liverpool lost 2–1 to non-league Worcester City in the 1958–59 FA Cup, Bill Shankly was appointed manager. Upon his arrival he released 24 players and converted a boot storage room at Anfield into a room where the coaches could discuss strategy; here, Shankly and other "Boot Room" members Joe Fagan, Reuben Bennett, and Bob Paisley began reshaping the team.

The club was promoted back into the First Division in 1962 and won it in 1964, for the first time in 17 years. In 1965, the club won its first FA Cup. In 1966, the club won the First Division but lost to Borussia Dortmund in the European Cup Winners' Cup final. Liverpool won both the League and the UEFA Cup during the 1972–73 season, and the FA Cup again a year later. Shankly retired soon afterwards and was replaced by his assistant, Bob Paisley.In 1976, Paisley's second season as manager, the club won another League and UEFA Cup double. The following season, the club retained the League title and won the European Cup for the first time, but it lost in the 1977 FA Cup Final. Liverpool retained the European Cup in 1978 and regained the First Division title in 1979. During Paisley's nine seasons as manager Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six League titles and three consecutive League Cups; the only domestic trophy he did not win was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and was replaced by his assistant, Joe Fagan. Liverpool won the League, League Cup and European Cup in Fagan's first season, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season. Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985, against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters, and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The incident became known as the Heysel Stadium disaster. The match was played in spite of protests by both managers, and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. As a result of the tragedy, English clubs were banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen Liverpool fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.

Fagan had announced his retirement just before the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager. During his tenure, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in the 1985–86 season. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed against perimeter fencing. Ninety-four fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later and the 96th died nearly four years later, without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough disaster there was a government review of stadium safety. The resulting Taylor Report paved the way for legislation that required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.

Liverpool was involved in the closest finish to a league season during the 1988–89 season. Liverpool finished equal with Arsenal on both points and goal difference, but lost the title on total goals scored when Arsenal scored the final goal in the last minute of the season.

Dalglish cited the Hillsborough disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991; he was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Under his leadership Liverpool won the 1992 FA Cup Final, but their league performances slumped, with two consecutive sixth-place finishes, eventually resulting in his dismissal in January 1994. Souness was replaced by Roy Evans, and Liverpool went on to win the 1995 Football League Cup Final. While they made some title challenges under Evans, third-place finishes in 1996 and 1998 were the best they could manage, and so Gérard Houllier was appointed co-manager in the 1998–99 season, and became the sole manager in November 1998 after Evans resigned. In 2001, Houllier's second full season in charge, Liverpool won a "Treble": the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup. Houllier underwent major heart surgery during the 2001–02 season and Liverpool finished second in the League, behind Arsenal. They won a further League Cup in 2003, but failed to mount a title challenge in the two seasons that followed.

Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez at the end of the 2003–04 season. Despite finishing fifth in Benítez's first season, Liverpool won the 2004–05 UEFA Champions League, beating A.C. Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match ended with a score of 3–3. The following season, Liverpool finished third in the Premier League and won the 2006 FA Cup Final, beating West Ham United in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3. American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of the club during the 2006–07 season, in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. The club reached the 2007 UEFA Champions League Final against Milan, as it had in 2005, but lost 2–1. During the 2008–09 season Liverpool achieved 86 points, its highest Premier League points total, and finished as runners up to Manchester United.

In the 2009–10 season, Liverpool finished seventh in the Premier League and failed to qualify for the Champions League. Benítez subsequently left by mutual consent and was replaced by Fulham manager Roy Hodgson. At the start of the 2010–11 season Liverpool was on the verge of bankruptcy and the club's creditors asked the High Court to allow the sale of the club, overruling the wishes of Hicks and Gillett. John W. Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox and of Fenway Sports Group, bid successfully for the club and took ownership in October 2010. Poor results during the start of that season led to Hodgson leaving the club by mutual consent and former player & manager Kenny Dalglish taking over. Despite a record 8th League Cup success against Cardiff and an FA Cup final defeat to Chelsea, Liverpool finished in eighth position in the 2011–12 season, the worst league finish in 18 years and led to the sacking of Dalglish. He was replaced by Brendan Rodgers. In Rodgers' first season, Liverpool finished in seventh. In the 2013–14 season, Liverpool mounted an unexpected title charge to finish second behind champions Manchester City and subsequently return to the Champions League, scoring 101 goals in the process, the most since the 106 scored in the 1895–96 season. Following a disappointing 2014-15 season, where Liverpool finished sixth in the league, and a poor start to the 2015-16 season, Brendan Rodgers was sacked in October 2015. He was replaced by Jürgen Klopp, who became the third foreign manager in Liverpool's history. In Klopp's first season at Liverpool, he took the club to the finals of both the Football League Cup and UEFA Europa League, finishing as runner-up in both competitions.

 

The Fans

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In Game

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Budget

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SQUAD

Goalkeepers

Simon Mignolet

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Average keeper. Keep until you buy a new No.1
    Notes : Good tutor

Loris Karius

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Easier to sell than Mignolet
    Notes

Danny Ward

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Not good enough and too old to develop. Sell
    Notes

Fullbacks

Nathaniel Clyne

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Good defensive fullback. Have him unlearn the attacking PPMs he has
    Notes :  Starts the game injured for 5-6 months

Trent Alexander-Arnold

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : Club
    Recommendation : Future start. By the time Clyne recovers he will be above him
    Notes : Have Henderson/Milner tutor him asap

Jon Flanagan

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★ | Home Grown Status : Club
    Recommendation : Sell in January
    Notes : Injury prone

Alberto Moreno

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Great attacking left back. Keep until you get a nice regen
    Notes

Andrew Robertson

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Good rotation option. Moreno wins on physical stats
    Notes
Center Backs

Joël Matip

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Good but not great. Keep
    Notes

Dejan Lovren

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Keep for one year, then try to get some big money from China
    Notes : Inconsistent and complains a lot

Ragnar Klavan

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Can do a job. Keep until next summer
    Notes : Good tutor

Joe Gomez

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation / Club in 2018
    Recommendation : Great prospect, but injury prone
    Notes

Midfielders

Jordan Henderson

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Does a good job, but will never be the most important player on the pitch
    Notes : Solves any teammates unhappiness like he's MiB. Great tutor

Adam Lallana

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Versatile. Great technicals. Keep until contract ends
    Notes : Starts the game injured for 4-5 months. Good tutor

Emre Can

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Average keeper. Sell if you have the opportunity.
    Notes : Only one year left on contract

Roberto Firmino

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Too slow to be a forward, retrain to CM
    Notes

James Milner

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Retrain to RB and use a sub
    Notes : Great tutor, but complains a lot

Georginio Wijnaldum

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Versatile. Probably better than Can due to pace
    Notes

Marko Grujic

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Average. Takes to many shots. Loan until his value rises enough to sell
    Notes

Ben Woodburn

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : Club
    Recommendation : Retrain to CM to take over from Firmino
    Notes

Forwards

Sadio Mané
    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Star player. Keep. 
    Notes : Good tutor

Philippe Coutinho

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Best player at the club. Keep forever
    Notes : Try to make him unlearn "Shots From Distance"

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Good player. Can play both wings. Can be retained to CM.
    Notes : Can be tutored by Milner to improve personality. Injury prone

Divock Origi

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Got nerfed hard since last year. Try to sell.
    Notes : On loan at Wolfsburg for the season

Lazar Markovic

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Has good potential, but won't fulfill it. Sell.
    Notes : Inconsistent. Injury prone.

Mohamed Salah

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : No
    Recommendation : Deadly in the right system. Keep.
    Notes : Some of his PPMs make him quite limited

Daniel Sturridge

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Great player but will only decline. Keep until contract expires unless he gets a bad injury.
    Notes : Injury Prone

Danny Ings

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★★ | Home Grown Status : Nation
    Recommendation : Slow and too bad compared to Sturidge. Sell
    Notes : Injury Prone

Harry Wilson

    Stats : summervsFM17 | Rating : ★★★ | Home Grown Status : Club
    Recommendation : Great prospect. Get him tutored and give him some games
    Notes : Train his physicals as hard as you can
Youth

Kamil Grabara               Stats : summer | Rating : ★★★★★
Conor Masterson          Stats : summer | Rating : ★★★★
Cameron Brannagan   Stats : summer | Rating : ★★★★
Ovie Ejaria                       Stats : summer | Rating : ★★★★★
Herbie Kane                    Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★
Liam Coyle                      Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★
Edvard Tagseth              Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★
Curtis Jones                     Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★
Ryan Kent                        Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★
Sheyi Ojo                         Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★
Yan Dhanda                    Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★
Bobby Adekanye           Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★
Rhian Brewster             Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★
Dominic Solanke           Stats : summer  | Rating : ★★★★★

 
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TACTICS

The Almost Klopp

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  • Team Instructions:
    • Play Out of Defence
    • Close Down More
    • Higher Tempo
  • Great midfield control as Coutinho comes inside and Salah drops deep
  • Moreno and Mane provide width
    • Clyne and TAA both have "Gets Forward Whenever Possbile", so they will help too
  • The 4 attacking players have "Close Down More", to start the press from the front
  • Salah and Mane are set to swap
    • Salah is sometimes an Inside Forward (Support) when at AML
  • This is an attackng tactic, but can be adapted to be more defensive when needed:
    • Change Moreno to Full-Back (Support)
    • Change Can and Henderson to Central Midfielder (Defend)

 

 

The "Lads, it's West Ham"

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  • Use a high defensive line to compress the space available
  • The front 4 roles are flexible, depending on what players are in the game.
  • Needs at least 1 Winger for width and 1 striker that drops deep
  • Can be used as a counter tactic against teams that play with 3 at the back and a lot of midfielders (Chelsea)
    • It allows you to bypass their midfield
    • The wingers keep their wingbacks from attacking

 

 

The Strikerless

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  • Great against teams with better players (Man City)
  • Uses numbers to prevent them from having possesion
  • Salah and Mane hit them on the counter
    • They can also be set to swap so the attacking play is more diverse
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Great thread sadly won’t play the game until the March update as I normally start my long term save then but that could change 

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Good start.

First order of business - buy top class CB.:D I like the look of Woodburn. The squad has a lot to offer, in general. 

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49 minutes ago, yonko said:

Good start.

First order of business - buy top class CB.:D I like the look of Woodburn. The squad has a lot to offer, in general. 

I got Stefan de Vrij for 18 million in the beta, great player.  Woodburn amazing got a couple of goals in the league for me. 

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19 minutes ago, Staf9 said:

good start.

 

think there should be aa 4231 tactic in there too

I agree. The squad has a lot of tactical flexibility.

9 minutes ago, scruffybear said:

I got Stefan de Vrij for 18 million in the beta, great player.  Woodburn amazing got a couple of goals in the league for me. 

Ideally I would like to buy someone who is left footed or comfortable at DCL in two man pairing to complement Matip. Romagnoli and Laporte are prime candidates. Although I fancy Rugani too. And Matthijs De Ligt is a must buy and probably the most promising prospect defender - at 17 it means he will become home grown after 3 seasons. Him and Joe Gomez can be the future pairing for years to come.

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Great opening to the thread and like the touch you did with the budgets :)

I started a game in the Beta and signed de Ligt from Ajax to come in as a CB, letting Klavan go to Spurs, with the net cost being about 9M which isn't too bad.

Trying to get one of Rugani and Tah to join as the next piece of business but they are both around the 30M mark.

Central midfield also could use a more defensive player, a lot of formations around at the moment look to require a more pragmatic, physical presence than we have.

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33 minutes ago, Pablo Sanchez said:

Why is the picture of the fans all asian lol

 

Its an English club surely showing the kop would have been better. 

Couldn't find a picture from this season with no watermark.

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As already mentioned, buy de Ligt from AJAX. Incredible defender at only 19 years old and in my Liverpool career he's chipped in with two headers for goal off of corners in the first two months.

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I’ve given in & gonna buy the copy now knew I couldn’t wait till March lol anyway gonna start with my 4-2-3-1 formation as I have since Football Manager 2009 & sign no one in the first windows  gonna import the FM 17 tactics unless they’ve changed it also gonna put all the graphics in as well most likely will be tomorrow when I start a new save 

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11 minutes ago, glenn28 said:

I’ve given in & gonna buy the copy now knew I couldn’t wait till March lol anyway gonna start with my 4-2-3-1 formation as I have since Football Manager 2009 & sign no one in the first windows  gonna import the FM 17 tactics unless they’ve changed it also gonna put all the graphics in as well most likely will be tomorrow when I start a new save 

knew you wouldnt hold out :)

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I'm going to carry on with my beta save as I have a nice one going and I have no major bug issues except for crossing and this might have been sorted out and this is the first time I have carried on a beta save but I am looking to the youth to bring me continued glory.

 

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11 minutes ago, limey150781 said:

I like that under description for all the players it's "average keeper, sell if opportunity".

Copy pasted from last years thread for formatting.

I wanted to get it out before release.

The screenshots of stats are OK.

I'll try to finish that section tonight.

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Hey guys, back again...can't seem to stay away when the game comes out!

So, I played the beta a little, hoping the improved some aspects of the game. Looking forward to starting a long save. Probably going to play 4231 and perhaps buy a proper DMC. I'm going to be using a lot of the youth players so won't need to shell out completely. Just not 100% sure on tactics really so will experiment. 

Lovren's stats in game are not so bad compared to real life lol, so might keep him around for a season. Maybe I'll buy another keeper or two though. Going to be cleaning out the backroom staff etc now and sort out some tactics.

Definitely signing De Lijt (hope I spelt that right!) and maybe a new striker, I mean I like Firmino in real life but I don't know how he is going to do in the game and want a proper goalscorer. Will see...

So, twice for the first season, I have a block of 5 games as: Man City, international break, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Utd, and then later on that season, same 5 games but Spurs before Everton...should be fun!!

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15 hours ago, glenn28 said:

I’ve given in & gonna buy the copy now knew I couldn’t wait till March lol anyway gonna start with my 4-2-3-1 formation as I have since Football Manager 2009 & sign no one in the first windows  gonna import the FM 17 tactics unless they’ve changed it also gonna put all the graphics in as well most likely will be tomorrow when I start a new save 

Ha! And I promised myself I wouldn't buy FM18... didn't last long!

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2 hours ago, A Double K said:

Hey guys, back again...can't seem to stay away when the game comes out!

So, I played the beta a little, hoping the improved some aspects of the game. Looking forward to starting a long save. Probably going to play 4231 and perhaps buy a proper DMC. I'm going to be using a lot of the youth players so won't need to shell out completely. Just not 100% sure on tactics really so will experiment. 

Lovren's stats in game are not so bad compared to real life lol, so might keep him around for a season. Maybe I'll buy another keeper or two though. Going to be cleaning out the backroom staff etc now and sort out some tactics.

Definitely signing De Lijt (hope I spelt that right!) and maybe a new striker, I mean I like Firmino in real life but I don't know how he is going to do in the game and want a proper goalscorer. Will see...

So, twice for the first season, I have a block of 5 games as: Man City, international break, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Utd, and then later on that season, same 5 games but Spurs before Everton...should be fun!!

Matthijs De Ligt and Kasper Dolberg should be your prime targets then.

De Ligt you can retrain as DM. And Dolberg looks to be one of the most promising young strikers in the game. Another option for DM is Rodri (I can't remember which spanish team he was from)- on the Beta he was available for a low release fee clause of 4.3M Euros. But I think Can and Hendo should be good enough at DM. 

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16 hours ago, Staf9 said:

knew you wouldnt hold out :)

 

1 hour ago, Blinklys said:

Ha! And I promised myself I wouldn't buy FM18... didn't last long!

Haha said that the last 2 years :) downloading the game now then put the graphics in & im set to go 

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Very easy with Liverpool this year. Excellent squad and you start with a tonne of cash, plus you can raise a lot of funds from sales. I bought Koulibaly and Harry Kane (£120m), and won the league first season with a very simple 4231 system

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19 games in, top and 4 points clear of united. As said above all you need is a simple 4231. 

Still struggling to get anything out of coutinho Salah and mane though, but not going to complain too much whilst I’m top. 

Managed to unsettle Leon Gotetzka and Alexis Sanchez with silly bids so could get them on a free end of the season, although I am kinda wanting to sign nothing but younger players, and Sanchez will be 29.

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13 hours ago, yonko said:

Matthijs De Ligt and Kasper Dolberg should be your prime targets then.

De Ligt you can retrain as DM. And Dolberg looks to be one of the most promising young strikers in the game. Another option for DM is Rodri (I can't remember which spanish team he was from)- on the Beta he was available for a low release fee clause of 4.3M Euros. But I think Can and Hendo should be good enough at DM. 

Heh, was always going to be buying De Ligt for £15m and got Dolberg for £30m before I read this too.  Yeah, I think DM wise, I should be fine as you've said. Grujic can play there too so it's all good. 

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4 hours ago, lindo-spireite said:

19 games in, top and 4 points clear of united. As said above all you need is a simple 4231. 

Still struggling to get anything out of coutinho Salah and mane though, but not going to complain too much whilst I’m top. 

Managed to unsettle Leon Gotetzka and Alexis Sanchez with silly bids so could get them on a free end of the season, although I am kinda wanting to sign nothing but younger players, and Sanchez will be 29.

Those three are insane on my game

 

Mane (Raumdeuter A) Coutinho (Advanced playmaker S) Salah (Winger A)

 

However the most vital thing I found was turning off "work ball into the box". With it on Mane and Salah continually got in behind but passed backwards

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How is mane and salah performing defensively in that tactic you've got??

Raumdeuter tends to neglect defensive duties I believe?

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12 hours ago, paddypower said:

Those three are insane on my game

 

Mane (Raumdeuter A) Coutinho (Advanced playmaker S) Salah (Winger A)

 

However the most vital thing I found was turning off "work ball into the box". With it on Mane and Salah continually got in behind but passed backwards

Been working a treat, cheers. 

unfortunately a bad tackle in the champions league quarter final v atletico has just broke manes leg! Currently top, 3 points clear of united and them up next , hopefully losing mane won’t derail the title charge. 

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1 hour ago, Ramsdal03 said:

How do you guys setup the striker in this formation? 

Mane (Raumdeuter A) Coutinho (Advanced playmaker S) Salah (Winger A)

Sturridge or firmino advanced forward for me. Firmino has 28 goals sturridge 19, cutrone my other striker has 13. 

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Just now, Ramsdal03 said:

How do you guys setup the striker in this formation? 

Mane (Raumdeuter A) Coutinho (Advanced playmaker S) Salah (Winger A)

Complete Forward Support

 

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Just now, dunner said:

How is mane and salah performing defensively in that tactic you've got??

Raumdeuter tends to neglect defensive duties I believe?

I haven't noticed them being lazy. Although my CMs are a DLP (D) BWM (S), so both defensive roles.

 

In my first season I conceded 32 goals in 38 games, which was the second best defensive record in the league

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2 hours ago, paddypower said:

I haven't noticed them being lazy. Although my CMs are a DLP (D) BWM (S), so both defensive roles.

 

In my first season I conceded 32 goals in 38 games, which was the second best defensive record in the league

Would you mind sharing your tactic? 

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Just now, CRN711 said:

Would you mind sharing your tactic? 

Sure, as I said it's really simple:

 

4231 (2 CMs rather than DMs)

 

Complete Forward (S)

Raumdeuter (A) Advanced Playmaker (S) Winger (A)

DLP (D) BWM (S)

FB (A) CD (D) CD (D) FB(S)

GK(D)

 

Control

Flexible

Play out of Defence

Push Higher Up

Close Down More

 

 

If we start poorly, and the other teams midfielders are breaking on us I drop the CMs into DM. And if I'm defending a lead in a big game with 20mins left I drop the wide players into LM and RM, seems to work fine

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League and fa cup double first season. 

Signed donnaruma and sold mignolet despite him being brilliant, looking more to the future. Got goretzka in a free, keita obviously coming in too. Sold wijnaldum and Milner. Then up top I signed Harry kane for 80mil+sturridge. A lot of money I know, but I had a load spare and I got fed up of sturridge getting injured if he played more than two games in a row. 

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2 hours ago, lindo-spireite said:

League and fa cup double first season. 

Signed donnaruma and sold mignolet despite him being brilliant, looking more to the future. Got goretzka in a free, keita obviously coming in too. Sold wijnaldum and Milner. Then up top I signed Harry kane for 80mil+sturridge. A lot of money I know, but I had a load spare and I got fed up of sturridge getting injured if he played more than two games in a row. 

I might go the route you did and try to pry Kane away from the Spurs. Sturridge has been amazing for me (13 goals in 12 games) but he's had two relatively minor injuries and in my last match broke his leg and is out 4-6 months. Luckily I have Dolberg who I signed immediately after beginning my career and Solanke who is alright as a youngster. I just can't stand how fragile Sturridge is.

Other then Kane (and Dolberg who I already signed), does anyone have suggestions on world class-borderline world class strikers that are somewhat attainable for Liverpool?

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5 hours ago, TheYurpman said:

I might go the route you did and try to pry Kane away from the Spurs. Sturridge has been amazing for me (13 goals in 12 games) but he's had two relatively minor injuries and in my last match broke his leg and is out 4-6 months. Luckily I have Dolberg who I signed immediately after beginning my career and Solanke who is alright as a youngster. I just can't stand how fragile Sturridge is.

Other then Kane (and Dolberg who I already signed), does anyone have suggestions on world class-borderline world class strikers that are somewhat attainable for Liverpool?

Yeah sturridge was sound for me, got 18 goals, firmino got 27, but they both did miss loads of chances, and why wouldn’t I sign Harry kane when I’ve got the money to spend and nowhere that needs strengthening. 

Other strikers, I signed Patrick Cutrone start of the first season and he’s developing nicely, mainly played a bit part off the bench as my third striker and still ended up with 13 goals. 

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9 hours ago, TheYurpman said:

I might go the route you did and try to pry Kane away from the Spurs. Sturridge has been amazing for me (13 goals in 12 games) but he's had two relatively minor injuries and in my last match broke his leg and is out 4-6 months. Luckily I have Dolberg who I signed immediately after beginning my career and Solanke who is alright as a youngster. I just can't stand how fragile Sturridge is.

Other then Kane (and Dolberg who I already signed), does anyone have suggestions on world class-borderline world class strikers that are somewhat attainable for Liverpool?

buy Pellegri from Genoa and let him develop. after 2-3 seasons you should have the best young forward in the game

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55 minutes ago, Pablo Sanchez said:

What mentality and shape and instructions guys?

 

Giving the 4-2-3-1 a go should be easy enough

Control, pass into space, fairly narrow (switch to wide depending on how the games going/if I’m playing a team with good wingers) and mixed passing. 

 

 

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I have Pellegri but as for pure goals Icardi is world class, on FM17 in less than ten seasons he broke the league goals record for the club.

 

Ok, I started my usual career with my beloved Liverpool.

first window budgets were disabled and heres the strange thing... I struggled through pre season JUST beating St Ives 3-2 with a decent first team.

But wow 32 games played in the PL and im TOP with 29 wins and 3 draws  Best attack and best defence, EVERYONE doing great as well. Klavan has been fantastic for back up.

 

Coutinho is the only player im not really seeing anything I would expect from him, but im putting that down to its my first season and on other FM's the best players Suarez ect wouldnt be all that first season but then dominate second season onwards.

 

I rotate with three similar tactics all 433's of sorts. Narrow Wide and Strikerless.

 

Players i have bought in, in Jan were Pellegri and Rugani Rugani for now Pellegri for next season. My intake just unearthed me a potential Steven Gerrard but atm he is only competent in CM. Natural in DM. So work to do!! I have Ruben Neves coming in June.

 

My only criticism is that we are over loaded with midfield talent. The problem with doing well is that it masks who i should replace ect but im having a gamble on that front.

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Will be starting soon.

Other than a few staff, i will be focusing on buying a new Keeper, left back, a central defender or 2 and a striker. Maybe a DM too, while also focusing on building up homegrown players.

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Tough second season as United were rampant and I decided to mess with the tactics right at the end of the season and it cost me the FA cup but won the league and champions league after penalties.

Season highlight was the City game, 1-0 down after 2 minutes, woody scores after 86 minutes, city get penalty Mignolet saves it and Couthino goes and pops one in the far corner on the counter attack, that why I play FM all sorts of emotions in a few minutes

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Got a problem now as Mignolet has won keeper of the season again and I have Rajkovic as back up and Ming is now an English citizen, Karius in reserves and will be sold and I have four other under 23 keepers and two of those will be going and I have two four/five star potential regens that have come through the youth team but still only 17 so a long way off the first team

Not sure whether to get rid of rajkovic as I am not sure he looks that good and promote one of the under 23's to be a back up

Any thoughts?

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38 minutes ago, A Double K said:

Got my CL group for first season and it ain't pretty...

Bayern, Atletico and Salzburg.

Wish me luck guys...

I've got a tough one too, Atletico, Monaco and Red Bull Lelpzig, but good luck (y)

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Starting my 3rd season.

Starting XI: Rajkovic; Kimmich, Matip, Dier, Moreno; Emre Can, Coutinho, Keita; Dybala, Firmino, Mane

Subs: Mignolet, Gomez, Koulibaly, De Ligt, Clyne, Alexander-Arnold, Hendo, Goretzka, Timo Werner, Ox, Woodburn.

 

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