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Never felt the need to change when 3d became an option.

Some things are just nice to be kept in their classic original way!

Having said that, it took a while to get used to the 2d option compared to the Championship Manager 2 text commentary.

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I had too until yesterday when I remembered I could tone down the graphic quality, only way I could stop my fan going nuts   

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1 minute ago, kuraeero said:

With every new version, I always try out the 3d engine and promise myself that this time I will stick with it, yet after a while I always find myself switching back to 2d. I just wish that the current 2d engine still looked as good as it did back in FM2017.

 

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On 18/11/2019 at 15:15, kuraeero said:

With every new version, I always try out the 3d engine and promise myself that this time I will stick with it, yet after a while I always find myself switching back to 2d. I just wish that the current 2d engine still looked as good as it did back in FM2017.

How is the 2D match engine in fm2020?? Any differences?

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On 18/11/2019 at 15:15, kuraeero said:

I just wish that the current 2d engine still looked as good as it did back in FM2017.

This.  Still gutted about it

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20 hours ago, amer said:

How is the 2D match engine in fm2020?? Any differences?

Haven't played fm20 yet, but judging by the screenshots, it's pretty much the same that it was in fm18 and 19. Shame really.

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On 20/11/2019 at 16:52, kuraeero said:

Haven't played fm20 yet, but judging by the screenshots, it's pretty much the same that it was in fm18 and 19. Shame really.

the 2d in fm 20 is just wonderfull for me.. i am a die hard 2d fan nowadays despite the fact that when 3d comes out i was more than just excited.since fm15 i i only play on 2d mode in any case the 2d in fm20 is great.. and in general to my mind the match engine is a little bit better than in previous fms

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On 25/11/2019 at 08:27, papadakis said:

the 2d in fm 20 is just wonderfull for me.. i am a die hard 2d fan nowadays despite the fact that when 3d comes out i was more than just excited.since fm15 i i only play on 2d mode in any case the 2d in fm20 is great.. and in general to my mind the match engine is a little bit better than in previous fms

How is it now with the updated patch.

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On 25/11/2019 at 09:27, papadakis said:

the 2d in fm 20 is just wonderfull for me.. i am a die hard 2d fan nowadays despite the fact that when 3d comes out i was more than just excited.since fm15 i i only play on 2d mode in any case the 2d in fm20 is great.. and in general to my mind the match engine is a little bit better than in previous fms

So how is that different from FM18 and 19 may I ask?

I recently downloaded FM 20 Demo and I tested the 2D, and it’s exactly the same as it was on 18 and 19.

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8 hours ago, hdsnviefbvs said:

So how is that different from FM18 and 19 may I ask?

I recently downloaded FM 20 Demo and I tested the 2D, and it’s exactly the same as it was on 18 and 19.

It's not, FM20 has 2D classic, IIRC 18&19 have 2D and there's a stadium, some fans, I may be wrong.

But I always use 2D, don't know why, I just like it more.

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2d classic for highlights and 3d for goals

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I do. 

Wish SI would bring new graphics such as stadiums and more animations to 2D also. 

At some point there was a modern version of 2D available and I really enjoyed it but I guess it wasn't that popular in general as it was removed after few years. 

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I still play 2D classic mode, I just love it and can see my tactic better, but yes I do have goals in 3D mode.

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2D was a step up from text commentary, but 3D is where it's at. I don't watch dots running around on TV and I'd love for FM to move closer to that experience.

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I switched to 2D and 3D goals. 

You can see how your players and the opposite side move. 

 

FM is not about graphism, and "dots" is what managers IRL use to analyse the games. 

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Used to have it on 3D but switched to 2D a couple of months back because it's just so much better to see what's actually happening on the pitch

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Posted (edited)

I still play FM17 as that was the last year of proper 2D,I remember buying 18 and was like 'WTF is this?' completely detroyed the most crucial part of the game, match days.

My brother recently bought 20 he never really played a lot and the first thing he said was what is going on with the graphics? they are so lame. and within a week he is threatening to bin the game because he say's what is the point in spending hours looking for staff, setting scouting assignments looking for and training players ect when after all of that you have to endure the crappy matchday graphics? seriously it's an embarrassment. 

I get the demo every year to see if they have admitted defeat and reverted back and am gutted but i think they are trying to cater for a wider audience and simplifying the game. 

I noticed the plug'n play option they brought in last year or whenever it was where you can pick Tiki Taka ect and i just thought wow now i see what you are doing. The tatics are by far the hardest part of the game and it took me years of tweaking to get it right even now i don't have it down 100 percent but that is where the real skill of the game is, that is how you take a league 2 club to the Prem in 3 years with zero money

And i think if you did a poll what you may call the more 'serious' players will undoubtedly pick 2D because as has been said you get a perfect view of your tactical shape so can make adjustments

But now it has been reduced to having the game do your tactics for you so you can play like Guardiola without working out anything for yourself and then watching it play out on graphic worse that LMA 2000

 FM17 was the Peak

Edited by Bilbaoboy

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38 minutes ago, Bilbaoboy said:

But now it has been reduced to having the game do your tactics for you so you can play like Guardiola without working out anything for yourself and then watching it play out on graphic worse that LMA 2000

Those templates are far from ideal, they give you general idea but you will not suddenly win matches just because you picked one. You still need to make your players fit within the system and be able to pull off what you ask of them.

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2d is the best, FM 20 graphics are mobile game quality and are actually misleading to whats happening in the game.

Also on 3d sometimes goals are ignored and not shown lol

 

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I keep trying to give 3D a chance but can't quite seem to find a viewpoint I like. I even have a gaming laptop now in case I was able to stick to that viewpoint, but I find the 2D version so much better in terms of how I want to view the game (I.e. looking for patterns/gaps/etc). 

I watch the goals on Director View though, particularly my own...

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On 11/06/2020 at 02:53, interesti88 said:

I still play 2D classic mode, I just love it and can see my tactic better, but yes I do have goals in 3D mode.

Majority do that I think.

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2d all the way. Gave 3D a chance, but the net animation glitch is beyond annoying and just don’t like the animations. But that will change in future. 

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On 20/06/2020 at 23:07, Bilbaoboy said:

I still play FM17 as that was the last year of proper 2D,I remember buying 18 and was like 'WTF is this?' completely detroyed the most crucial part of the game, match days.

My brother recently bought 20 he never really played a lot and the first thing he said was what is going on with the graphics? they are so lame. and within a week he is threatening to bin the game because he say's what is the point in spending hours looking for staff, setting scouting assignments looking for and training players ect when after all of that you have to endure the crappy matchday graphics? seriously it's an embarrassment. 

I get the demo every year to see if they have admitted defeat and reverted back and am gutted but i think they are trying to cater for a wider audience and simplifying the game. 

I noticed the plug'n play option they brought in last year or whenever it was where you can pick Tiki Taka ect and i just thought wow now i see what you are doing. The tatics are by far the hardest part of the game and it took me years of tweaking to get it right even now i don't have it down 100 percent but that is where the real skill of the game is, that is how you take a league 2 club to the Prem in 3 years with zero money

And i think if you did a poll what you may call the more 'serious' players will undoubtedly pick 2D because as has been said you get a perfect view of your tactical shape so can make adjustments

But now it has been reduced to having the game do your tactics for you so you can play like Guardiola without working out anything for yourself and then watching it play out on graphic worse that LMA 2000

 FM17 was the Peak

The 2D Classic is horrific in recent versions. I'm stuck with FM15 until it improves or, somehow (I know it's not happening), the software option for graphics returns.

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