Kolga77 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Hey, so far, never heard of an "official " way to get a son spawning at your yearly youth coming.Heard lot of infos as:-You need to be more than 34 -You need to be at the same club for 10 years -You need to have a player who retired after being at your club for 10 years -The chance is 1/10.000 does anyone have the clue ? For the FM2017 full version of course and please, so much people are speculating on things about FM. Maybe because this game if a lot about "minding" and whatever. Don't confuse everyone with theory of your own.clear sources and screenshots are welcomethx a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 official line is over 34 and chance of 1 in every 10000 intakes. As far as I know that's it. No mystery, just incredibly rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolga77 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 well, according to this... if I saved my party just before the regens coming to have a chance of "check the regens/reload/check the regens/reload/check..." My chance to have a son spawning are 1/10,000 consider it takes 7 seconds to load my party, check the regens name, and finally reload again... 7 seconds X 10.000 reloads = 70.000 seconds 70.000 seconds = 19,45 hours of potential retry... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 In theory, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, Kolga77 said: well, according to this... if I saved my party just before the regens coming to have a chance of "check the regens/reload/check the regens/reload/check..." My chance to have a son spawning are 1/10,000 consider it takes 7 seconds to load my party, check the regens name, and finally reload again... 7 seconds X 10.000 reloads = 70.000 seconds 70.000 seconds = 19,45 hours of potential retry... I would question the 7 seconds to reload a game but then it would depend on the machine & how many leagues/players are loaded in the save. As Hunt3r has said the theory is right but I would also point out that even if you reloaded 10,000 times you wouldn't be guaranteed a son. Each time the youth intake spawns you have a 1/10,000 chance and each time is isolated & individual to other times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Yes, that's it, Cougar. You may get lucky on reload number 3, but on the other hand, it may only happen on reload 15,003. So it's just easier to see it as pure luck. By the way, the 10 seasons thing is in FMT, although I'm not sure of the exact details around it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Plus now you can't predict when the intake is going to come, right? So unless you save every single day to separate files, you're not going to be able to grab a save just before the intake. Why someone would care enough to want to spend that long reloading baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Is it 1/10000 for each intake, or 1/10000 for each player in an intake? 1/10000 for each intake sounds quite unlikely given the number of known users who have had them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The way it was always described was that you would have a son in 1 in every 10000 single intakes. So statistically, if someone was to play for 10000 seasons, they could expect one son at some point during those. Statistically at least. Some get one after a few, some will never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, dafuge said: Is it 1/10000 for each intake, or 1/10000 for each player in an intake? 1/10000 for each intake sounds quite unlikely given the number of known users who have had them. The way I saw a SI staff member describe it was "each intake you had approx 1/10,000 chance of getting a son". EDIT For the amount of time people play on the forums I honestly don't think we see that many sons. Personally I've never had a son on any version of FM, like others I've played from the very start, I probably average about 50 seasons per version nowadays (More maybe when I was younger) and I did go through a spell many years ago where I reloaded intakes. Despite that I've still never had one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, Cougar2010 said: The way I saw a SI staff member describe it was "each intake you had approx 1/10,000 chance of getting a son". I thought I'd seen that too, but I can't find it now. I still think it might be 1/10000 for each player, bringing it down to around 1/625 for each intake. Those odds sounds more realistic based on stories from people like @Ackter and his careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I have played every FM edition and only had one son. That occurred in FM16 when i went though a phase of reloading the game on the day before the youth intake. It took my laptop a hell of a lot longer than 7 seconds to do that! I was testing the complete randomness of the whole regen system, seeing as I had the best youth setup the game allows yet I would see complete dross being generated. I would see a 4* or higher player one in every 10-15 reloads and nothing in between (and yes I know the star ratings have their own variables...). many of the +4* players I did see would have unplayable traits such as highly injury prone, doesn't enjoy big matches or be very inconsistent. I have always assumed that any son will be in your clubs youth intake. If not I may have missed on spotting one over the years? There is another spanner to throw in too, as are those odds of 1/10000 for just human controlled players? or do they include any eligible staff within the game having a son? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 hours ago, dafuge said: I thought I'd seen that too, but I can't find it now. I still think it might be 1/10000 for each player, bringing it down to around 1/625 for each intake. Those odds sounds more realistic based on stories from people like @Ackter and his careers. Think I'm on 3 sons in total. One insanely good and two rubbish ones who ended up retiring before they hit 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 10:49, Kolga77 said: Heard lot of infos as:-You need to be more than 34 -You need to be at the same club for 10 years -You need to have a player who retired after being at your club for 10 years That's how you unlock the feature when playing the other version of FM irrc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Ackter said: Think I'm on 3 sons in total. One insanely good and two rubbish ones who ended up retiring before they hit 20. how many seasons are you in? and was your 3 sons all in one save!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 These were all years ago now. All in different saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soninho Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Never had a son in game.. Played since 99/00, countless hours.. But actually I'm afraid to get one.. Would bury myself in dissapointment if he wasn't good..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Demus Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I have never had a son in game, but my brother had in an older version. He didn't notice it until he had been released and retired due to being crap I do something else though. My real life son was born in 2010. If I ever get to 2026/27 when he would feature in an intake, I edit him in with the Real Time Editor. I get my brother to pick a random intake player who then becomes my son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommie77 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 2-6-2017 at 15:47, ryan045 said: how many seasons are you in? and was your 3 sons all in one save!? When playing FM2014 I got 5 sons in the same game :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas_26_7 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 On 2 June 2017 at 20:02, Carninho said: I have played every FM edition and only had one son. That occurred in FM16 when i went though a phase of reloading the game on the day before the youth intake. It took my laptop a hell of a lot longer than 7 seconds to do that! I was testing the complete randomness of the whole regen system, seeing as I had the best youth setup the game allows yet I would see complete dross being generated. I would see a 4* or higher player one in every 10-15 reloads and nothing in between (and yes I know the star ratings have their own variables...). many of the +4* players I did see would have unplayable traits such as highly injury prone, doesn't enjoy big matches or be very inconsistent. I have always assumed that any son will be in your clubs youth intake. If not I may have missed on spotting one over the years? There is another spanner to throw in too, as are those odds of 1/10000 for just human controlled players? or do they include any eligible staff within the game having a son? I had one last year but he was rubbish, so what I did is used the IG editor to change his stats to match the best regen in that intake and changed the other regen to my son's stats to even it out so I didn't feel like I was cheating. I guess it technically is but I wasn't going to miss the chance to use my son in the game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavo01 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 If you're that interested in having a son in game how's about just changing a regen name in your youth intake using the Set Nickname option? What would be the difference doing it this way? So you won't be listed in his Favoured Personnel section. If I'm honest I'd be pretty certain my son IRL wouldn't list me as his favoured personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommie77 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 On 4-6-2017 at 21:25, tfell said: I'm inclined to agree, I've also seen more people have a son than the previously quoted odds would suggest. I've also had a son myself, despite not playing the game a huge amount. There must be more to it than just the previously quoted odds - On FM2014 I had 5 sons in 1 game, the first one was random, the next 2 after about 30 reloads and the last 2 weren't much more than 30 reloads. I started a new game (on FM2014 again) and I've already got 3 sons, the first was after only 5 years. So even if I reloaded on average 50 times for every son, it's still 8 sons in 400 reloads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, thommie77 said: There must be more to it than just the previously quoted odds - On FM2014 I had 5 sons in 1 game, the first one was random, the next 2 after about 30 reloads and the last 2 weren't much more than 30 reloads. I started a new game (on FM2014 again) and I've already got 3 sons, the first was after only 5 years. So even if I reloaded on average 50 times for every son, it's still 8 sons in 400 reloads. Pretty sure something has been added to get you those sons if you've had another three tbh. As I said in your original thread to have three in one save is ridiculously lucky, to say you've started a new save on FM14 and had three more points to something going on. I can't remember if there was DLC for FM14 or whether you've added a file/coding that has increased the chance of having a son but something has happened because no-one has ever reported getting sons so frequently, especially in one version & save file. EDIT A few blogs seem to be suggesting that if you bought the "Unlock a Son" DLC which is for classic mode that the odds of getting a son are significantly increased in the full game. I've seen several reports of sons within 10 reloads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Much like real life, FM has never seen me with a son. I wouldn't swap my daughter for anything though, she brightens any day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If someone official could just say it would save all these threads being made lol. I am curious as im in my tenth season on my save almost at the intake day, im just hoping he dont come along too soon as that would indicate i had a kid before i got with my current wife unless i get the editor and set his age to 10 lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofon Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yes, I guess, we all know the rules for getting a son in FM: I played many editions and never got one. So last time I edited nickname for one of the best regens. And sticked to him. Anyway, nobody guarantees that IRL you will like your own son, so you may treat another youth intake member as your son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Never had a son on any FM, outside of using an FMT unlockable, though in a recent save I did see Mourinho have a newgen son come through a Man Utd intake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Got a son in FM16. I was only in my second year of managing, so it surprised me. Unfortunately, he shared my nationality, which made him ineligible for the league I was managing in. Tried loaning him out, but he wasn't that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommie77 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I've never played the classic mode or bought the 'Unlock a Son' All I used/downloaded was a custom Thai league & transfers plus the real name fix from sortitoutsi - so if somebody knows how to increase the chances of having a son in the game they could have changed or added it. (but wouldn't more be getting sons?) Maybe oneday somebody from FM might explain :-) Quote Pretty sure something has been added to get you those sons if you've had another three tbh. As I said in your original thread to have three in one save is ridiculously lucky, to say you've started a new save on FM14 and had three more points to something going on. I can't remember if there was DLC for FM14 or whether you've added a file/coding that has increased the chance of having a son but something has happened because no-one has ever reported getting sons so frequently, especially in one version & save file. EDIT A few blogs seem to be suggesting that if you bought the "Unlock a Son" DLC which is for classic mode that the odds of getting a son are significantly increased in the full game. I've seen several reports of sons within 10 reloads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 01/06/2017 at 10:49, Kolga77 said: Hey, so far, never heard of an "official " way to get a son spawning at your yearly youth coming.Heard lot of infos as:-You need to be more than 34 -You need to be at the same club for 10 years -You need to have a player who retired after being at your club for 10 years -The chance is 1/10.000 does anyone have the clue ? For the FM2017 full version of course and please, so much people are speculating on things about FM. Maybe because this game if a lot about "minding" and whatever. Don't confuse everyone with theory of your own.clear sources and screenshots are welcomethx a lot Well when a mummy regen and a daddy regen love each other very much... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mons Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, mark1985 said: Well when a mummy regen and a daddy regen love each other very much... He's MY son, what d'you mean daddy regen?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mons said: He's MY son, what d'you mean daddy regen?!? Have you signed John Terry recently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mons Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, mark1985 said: Have you signed John Terry recently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mark1985 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Analog said: I've never had one. Are they always in your own intake, or do you have to search the world players list? I've never had one either but assuming they would be in your own intake. Unless you had some fun on an away day once... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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