knap Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Tested with Arsenal and Spurs no OIs. ¬FM17.3.1KnapWOF3412ISSAMTHP107AP110_4B4F491C-D1A4-4C43-9523-DA8955B4F2D7.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormraider Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Look amazing!!! Will try and report result soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Hi Knap! Not been on this is years, but your Oxford 104pts tactic is the best I've ever used from back in 2008! whats the best tactic you have made for this FM as I'm thinking of getting FM17? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Hi Steve GOODBYE 3430 & 3421 or this 3430. Just messing about in LL myself with these tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawni Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Hi Knap! This tactic looks amazing and would fit perfectly with my squad. I play FMT, any chance you could show me team/player instruction? Thank you so much and great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 I will post them later today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawni Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Wow, thank you so much! I'll give feedback as soon as I get It running! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Counter Attack version ¬FM17.3.1KnapWOF3412ISSAMTHP107AP110CAP102_58F1062E-6D94-48A5-9D8E-8B8102EAA29D.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 2 hours ago, knap said: Counter Attack version ¬FM17.3.1KnapWOF3412ISSAMTHP107AP110CAP102_58F1062E-6D94-48A5-9D8E-8B8102EAA29D.fmf mate i am confused....for a team with media prediction 5 to 7 which one strikerells u propose.??this one?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Full Testing will not re start until 21st Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Underdog test with original tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilNUFC Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I've been using this a little over the last couple of weeks with Tottenham with cracking success, been trying to incorporate a striker into the formation but can't seem to work it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Train Kane as a SS. Marcus Edwards should also get a few games in later seasons. The striker version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asrar Amin Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Hey knap thnx for ur work.Can u creat a tactic that has 3 at the back but have a striker and amr/aml instead of three shadow strikers??This is because most of the teams i love to play with have lot of wingers and strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, knap said: Underdog test with original tactic When you say original you mean the standard version or the counter ? Underdog you mean media prediction 17th and 18th from these teams ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Players like Lamela should not have a problem as a SS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Tactic in OP, The underdog teams are about standard of Everton, but in a league including top clubs like Barcelona. They would be ranked about 17th in that League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadland Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hello Am take the training and individual training on players ore are you training the players in the position they use on the pitch? att ore def in training if you play 10-15 season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 You can over ride AM and train Kane as SS etc. You also need to play player i new position. I leave to AM but with a good side mostly att. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayHardOrGoHome Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Giving this a go with my Southampton team season 1. Any suggestions on attacking mid's and shadow strikers I could bring into the club? and any other signings in general that work well with this tactic that would be open to sighning for southampton? thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Underdog test using OP tactic on counter ¬FM17.3.1KnapWOF3430THP107AP110Counter_D6AF2E96-6DFB-4BA4-B828-78F6421A0740.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 hours ago, knap said: Underdog test using OP tactic on counter Is it better than the original??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 A user considered counter to be more effective. It may depend on your side as to which is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc_number1 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Loving this tactic, won every match so far with the original - not tried the counter! I have a very good team in 2027 but normally lose and draw the odd match here at there, not with this! Only slight problem I have is that I have the best out and out striker on the game, I have retrained him to shadow striker but out of the front 3 he is the only one not scoring in the right hand side spot. Does the right hand side shadow striker score less or is my guy just not suitable? Also with the left and right shadow strikers do you think they would be more effective if the left side was right footed and the right side left footed? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Right on right and left on left. I would need to check save for scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpha Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Been using this tactic with Sampdoria now for 4,5 seasons and it's working like a charm. Especially using he counter version in difficult games. Playing with a lot of youth players and italian talents this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The V Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Arpha said: Been using this tactic with Sampdoria now for 4,5 seasons and it's working like a charm. Especially using he counter version in difficult games. Playing with a lot of youth players and italian talents this season. Did you win away in hard games with 3430 counter ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc_number1 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 This tactic is incredible! I made a few tweaks - set it to counter and gave both shadow strikers "Roam from Position" - i found they scored a lot more with this! I've got a really good team and I won champ league, league and cup last year but this season using this tactic I destroyed pretty much everyone. Man City were my bogey team - they knocked me out the champ league and were my only defeat in the league all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Counter is a good call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 @knapyou posted a lot of tactics for FM17, but if you had to pick just one for a very small club - which one would it be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 knap, if we are playing with lower team in PL with limited budget to purchase only 1 or 2 player , which area to be strengthen first for your 3430 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 WBs are key together with the SS role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 They all normally get a run out in LL. There is no real difference in a tactics performance between LL and PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJSE Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 What is the difference between this tactic and Goodbye? I am plaing with Goodbye 3421 (counter) and it's doing very well in certain games, especially in the Champions League. In the Scottish League (I am Celtic) I sometimes struggle. They seem to counter attack me when they score their goals. If you had to choose - Goodbye og WOF - with or without striker? And mentality. Counter or standard? mvh Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Celtic would be a top dog in league but underdog in CL. WOF is more top dog GOODBYE underdog - without striker is usually better. Counter with both tends to be preferred and even defensive against park the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJSE Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thanks KNAP! So you recomend WOF Counter tactic for Scottish League with Celtic, strikerless. I will try that. Is there a defensive WOF/GOODBYE or is it just the counter version just set to defensive? Thanks again, Alexander! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just mentality changes. SUS is then contain and sometimes defensive and DL pushed right up can work. I have played a few games with Celtic and easily beat Real Madrid using GOODBYE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 @Knap in the Goodbay 3430 every player has P.I tackle harder and no Get stuck in from the Tis , and in your WOF 3430 no one has P.I tackle harder (except the B2B) and Get stuck in from Tis, isn't the same thing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 I usually set TIs up before PIs and then the tactics are driven by results, and if results are better with both TI and PI then I go with both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Is there a WOF with a striker or should I use the Goodbye 3421 if I want to play with a striker? (a little confused with all the different tactics... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Apart from GOODBYE 3421 and 2 striker set ups there are these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: Apart from GOODBYE 3421 and 2 striker set ups there are these Thank you! Guess I should have seen those posts myself but no.... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJSE Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Just won the Bundesliga with RB Leipzig. Lost the first game 3-1 away to Bayern and had 3-3-1 after first seven games. Finished the season with 84 points, 13 ahead of Bayern and Dortmund. Sold for £70m during january transfer window (Forsberg, Demme, Poulsen), got Philipp from Dortmund and Jedvaj and Asensio on loan, plus Badstuber on free. So the WOF strikerless was sensational for me, and played some amazing football. With the same system I lost in second round of ECL against Juventus (unlucky 2-1 loss at home and lost 3-0 away, although they can thank Buffon for not conceding more over two legs). So no question really :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Nearly all my tactics this year have been tested over at least 180 games and sometimes on another testing league for another 170 games (lucky for me I don't do any of this testing.). Hopefully, given a little bit of time they should come good and at times, even in LL, the football is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelevra Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 this tactic is ridiculously good im at leverkusen and tearing up everybody. Cheers Knap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocca Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just started an Arsenal save and results looking good. Won 5, drew 0 and lost 0, including a 3 -0 win of Liverpool, 1 - 0 win at Manchester United. I am more of a plug and play manager so thanks a lot Knap!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 Plug and play away as that is all I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Thank you for this... I started using this tactic around the Christmas of my Toulouse save (first season) I had been doing ok with the 3421 version but the opposition had started to find me out. WOF has absolutely demolished everything in front of it!! Walked away with League and Cup Double first season. No signings and sold a couple of fringe players. Won the final 15 matches of the season (including putting 7 past Lyon) As suggested, I simply used it plug and play. Team and match training left to AM and I set the individual training to the players relevant position. No Opposition Instructions. I am hoping to keep it going into season two with a couple of signings. Wont be much though, the board have only given me £4.75m, so I bet the Champions League are bricking it! Fantastic work Knap! Thanks again Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocomaya Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 best tactic of FM17! Thanks Knap. You are Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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