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westy8chimp

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Hi

Starting a new save with a big team, probably Utd, in prep for the final update ... and subsequently first network game.

I've started coming up with some tactics to try out, I'm a bit fed of usual 4123 wide or 4231 wide... so going for the attached... double pivot in a structured tactic. I will using Regista and Trequarista and need tips for who the best signings would be to play these roles. Utd have a fortune and I can sell players for big money. So no budget restrictions on your recommendations.

I will need the Regista to have some defensive capabilities ... but will be paired with an Anchor man on defend... so Regista will be the first press (work rate, aggression) but primarily a ball distributer (decisions, passing, vision, flair) who will receive short passes from the defence and then look to either carry ball out... or use triangles with BBM/CWBs to get the ball into the opposition half where the AP s and TQ can take over.

For my Trequarista ... someone that can receive the ball (anticipation, touch, balance, agility, off the ball) and have skill to either open the defence up with a pass or dribble (pass, vision, decision, dribbling).

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GK - De Gea

FB - Shaw

CB - Baily, Smalling

CWB - Valencia

ANC - Jones/Sneiderlin/New signing (M'Vila?)

REG - ??

BBM - Pogba

TQ - Mata or new signing??

AP - Mata

CF - Ibra

 

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The roles look like they should work well together, maybe play a higher line since you want to press intensely?  The Regista works well with a high pressing, possession game, or in other words it works well with teams that like to control the match high up the pitch...  

Anyways to your question, have you given Daley Blind a look over?  I would imagine he could cover the Regista role, even Pogba could cover that role but I would stick with Blind since Pogba will be a much better Box-to-box.  As for the Trequartista I would give Mata a run for that role in a few pre-season matches see how he does, may need someone quicker, I have no doubt he has the technicals though.  Then if you put Mata at Trequartista you can then use any of Rashford, Martial, or Depay at Left Wing; would make this an Inside Forward and not an Advanced Playmaker, one because it suits those players better and two because you already have two other playmakers in the team (Treq and Regista).

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Oh one other thing I would make the box-to-box a central winger (CM/A), reason being is the CF (S) will arrive late into the box and the Treq will also, as well as the box-to-box.  You need someone who will be in the box at the end of attacking moves.   Which also means I would make Ibra a CF (A), it does exactly the same things as CF (S) except gets into the box earlier.

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yeh ive already earmarked the AP role as potential change to IF mostly because Martial should be in the team and he's a good IF ... but yeh tactically I am playmaker heavy. I sometimes find, even with the same PI thought that IFs can run into a dead end or take too many shots. I'll see which works better in games.

bbm/cf ... yeh get your point again its a case of suck it and see ... CM (a) may move to early and not support the regista enough in triangles (im going for a reasonably patient build up) CF (S) ... using double pivot I don't have a great deal of attackers to play with so I find the support role a hybrid attacker and midfielder... he'll have time to get in the box because I don't really have a crossing game or direct play ... it should be gentle progression ...but you may be right... if he doesn't have enough chances in the box as CF s id certainly try CF a.

defensive line... I quite like the idea of drawing them in ... and then having space for the regista and treq to carry the ball... especially a regista who can have time to get head up and use the space.  TQ ... I want that 3/4 space to be as vacated as possible so he can have a bigger impact... if I go high line then that can end up with 22 players in a very small space and reg/treq will be more closely marked. It's something i'll adjust as I go through the game... but I intend very much to have a solid base (deep line double pivot) and then use tactical and player flair to try and score 1to 2 goals per game

Blind/Mata .. hadn't really considered Blind as I think his value far exceeds his worth so potentially sell him for 35m and bring in someone with a bit more flair and rep ... Mata yes... defo has the TQ stats... he was going to be my backup... not because he isn't good enough... but because I want that role to be the star of the show so kind of what my own player to fulfil it. But if I sign a great youngster then Mata can be first choice for a season or two.

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for TQ there are a number of targets you could pursue. Ayozé from Newcastle would fit in the role well, and improves well under human management, and scores plenty of goals from the position. Ante Coric is another who could be moulded into the role over a couple of seasons. Others include Dani Ceballos(Betis), Sebastian Driussi(River), Thomas Lemar(Monaco), Andre Horta(Benfica), or Luan(Gremio).

Regista is a role I haven't used this FM, but again I have seen plenty of players that could certainly play that role. Richedly Bazoer from Ajax, Pepelu from Levante, Andres Cubas from Boca, Joshua Kimmich of Bayern, Sergi Darder of Lyon, Ruben Neves, of Porto, or Sergi Samper of Barca would all fit the role well. 

Both roles are very specialised, so you should be prepared to pay extra as both need to be extremely adept technically and mentally.

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Thanks

Ceballos - good shout, had him in the BETA as AP s ... really liked him ... and maybe under tutorage from compatriot Mata I can mould him over a season or two to take over. But Luan has maybe a bit more flair and good PPMs... good choices.  

for Regista Neves is the standout choice there i think. Cubas is a player I've trusted for the past few FMs and I know I could get him cheap. Bazoer is a player I've really enjoyed as a DLP d in Ajax save... maybe a bit too defensive for Reg? I'll scout Pepelu ... not a player I'm familiar with.

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Someone you could look into for the Regista role in the future.  Buy him early and develop him....Manuel Locatelli.... just had to throw him out there since I'm a Milanista (AC Milan).  He has a variable PA, I've seen it as low as 163 and as high as like 185ish.  Also you can look into Bonaventura for the Trequartista role while you're looking through Milan.  Another person I would look at, and I know from experience, he's killing it for me in my Milan save....Angel Correa (from Athletico Madrid).  He plays the Treq role for me at the moment, unfortunately I only have him on loan....

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thanks not played with either of those Milan players so will scout them. angel correa I've been signing on loan for the first season for the last 3-4 FM editions... is he ever actually going to start as a good player? Does he play much in real life... I don't have time to follow Spanish league as much as I used to... but he seems not to have improved in FM for several years. but if he gets good then I'm all for buying him early.

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Yeah not sure what Correa's potential is in terms of numbers.  He's got 4 star (with 5th black star) on my Milan save so I'm guessing somewhere in the 160's.  Looking at him in real life, it seems as though he's getting more and more playing time.  26 total appearances for club and country (14 starts / 12 subs) with 8 goals and 6 assists, so not too shabby.  He's been tearing it up for me though, but what he does for me doesn't always translate to other peoples save.  I play a 4-1-2-1-2 with a Regista and Treq and both Correa and Montolivo / Locatelli have been doing wonders for me.  Monto has been my main Regista and giving Loca game time in cups and games against smaller opponents, but Loca has been doing really well and will probably be my starter in 2nd season.

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8 hours ago, bakes106 said:

looks very similar to dunga's brazil tactic he used at the 2012 world cup

yes kind of what I'm aiming for ... I've tried and tested many 4411 4231 4123 with lovely fluid setups and high block. Got that down to a T and can win leagues (or over perform with weak sides). Now trying to add some variation to my games.

I'm also using a rejuvenated Catenaccio in a Juve save with Libero, Regista and Trequarista in the team. I'm only a few games in ... had to tweak a bit as had no possession in first setup which was a genuine Herrera Catenaccio ... but took out a defender for a defensive forward and already it's a beautiful thing to watch. I think the proper Catenaccio would work really well with a small team on counter mentality. But with Juve the AI were just passing around in their own half.

For Juve I have signed Biglia and Neves for Regista... and using Dybala as TQ with Luan on rotation/impact sub.

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5 minutes ago, sipsi said:

Did anybody try Di Natale in this version as Trequartista?

signed him for ajax in the BETA purely as a tutor ... he got a hatful of goals coming on in desperate times though, so I wouldn't rule him out! if hes still available in my juve save then I could use him :) 

 

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On 24/01/2017 at 16:59, MilanAC said:

Someone you could look into for the Regista role in the future.  Buy him early and develop him....Manuel Locatelli.... just had to throw him out there since I'm a Milanista (AC Milan).  He has a variable PA, I've seen it as low as 163 and as high as like 185ish.  Also you can look into Bonaventura for the Trequartista role while you're looking through Milan.  Another person I would look at, and I know from experience, he's killing it for me in my Milan save....Angel Correa (from Athletico Madrid).  He plays the Treq role for me at the moment, unfortunately I only have him on loan....

 

On 24/01/2017 at 17:09, westy8chimp said:

thanks not played with either of those Milan players so will scout them. angel correa I've been signing on loan for the first season for the last 3-4 FM editions... is he ever actually going to start as a good player? Does he play much in real life... I don't have time to follow Spanish league as much as I used to... but he seems not to have improved in FM for several years. but if he gets good then I'm all for buying him early.

Here's Locatelli in my Liverpool save. Obviously I haven't developed him for the Regista role but it should give you an idea.

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Depending on how early you can get Thiago Maia, and what his PA is, he can end up being a great regista.  I used him more as a DLP or RP in that DM slot for my Spurs team until Man United activated his £90 million release clause, but for three and a half years he was pinging passes around like Scholes and tackling like the anti-Scholes.

Also, if money's really no object see what Juventus want for Dybala.  Brilliant in any attacking role and I'm sure the same is true as a treq (though he might have to get trained up in the position).

For a less expensive option, there's also Lincoln from Gremio.  Only 18 at the start, and his PA isn't fixed, but he can really become something special.

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12 hours ago, Kevmcc87 said:

 

Here's Locatelli in my Liverpool save. Obviously I haven't developed him for the Regista role but it should give you an idea.

Manuel Locatelli_ Overview Profile-3.png

crikey and still only 22 ... worldy :) 

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3 hours ago, Tajerio said:

Depending on how early you can get Thiago Maia, and what his PA is, he can end up being a great regista.  I used him more as a DLP or RP in that DM slot for my Spurs team until Man United activated his £90 million release clause, but for three and a half years he was pinging passes around like Scholes and tackling like the anti-Scholes.

Also, if money's really no object see what Juventus want for Dybala.  Brilliant in any attacking role and I'm sure the same is true as a treq (though he might have to get trained up in the position).

For a less expensive option, there's also Lincoln from Gremio.  Only 18 at the start, and his PA isn't fixed, but he can really become something special.

I actually quickly stopped my UTD save and doing a Juve save :) similar tactic ... with Utd I realised I wanted half the Juve squad... and I hadn't done an Italian save for years. The recommendations all still count as im using libero, reg and TQ! I like thiago maia... a little restricted in Italian league with foreign player rules... but hes on my shortlist

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27 minutes ago, MilanAC said:

Nice!...Libero, Regista, and Treq, that should be interesting to see.  Who do you have playing the Libero role, if I may ask?

Bonucci - has technical physical and defensive skills pretty much unmatched ... the trouble is there is such a small pool of sweepers, let alone libero in the game (my player search filter by natural position libero returned 0 results)

I signed Rodrigo Caio as backup ... cheap and has been a wonderkid on previous FMs

my current setup and how it looks in attack ...

I'm on standard and structured.

TI:  normal tempo, wide, slightly deep line, more closing down, tighter marking

PI: shorter passing on all players except Lib, Reg, TQ

It doesn't work brilliantly because quite a lot of the time, despite normal tempo and shorter passing, the team tries to transition too quickly. I need to tamper with slow tempo and TI shorter passing.

 But I don't concede apart from set pieces and the odd long shot. So still winning games by the odd 1 or 2 goals.

I like the flexibility because with the back 5 I can easily take out the reg or cmd for another attacking option if I need a second half goal ... i.e. cmd out for an inside forward or winger... or reg off for a TM (s) and bring the TQ into AM strata

or I can push the wing backs up and change to higher tempo and more direct passing.

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Sweet, based off the attachments it looks pretty solid.  Too many playmakers for my liking but should serve you well.  Bonucci is one of, if not the best center back in the world at the moment, so I had a feeling he was the one you're using.  I'm wondering, now that I think about it, how David Luiz would fair in that role...

 

Anyways I wish your Juve squad a few relegations and bankruptcy in the future....Forza Milan!! ;)

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