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9 minutes ago, Ant Farley said:

This is a known-issue and is under review, thanks

Following up on the one where UI can't display full sentences or phrases, especially during negotiation of contracts. Can't see how many months the monthly instalment is based nor how many league games player will play before pay rise as UI was cut off. 

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8 hours ago, Sherdil said:

I'm not sure if I saw it right...

Under 2D classic, you can now actually see when the Ref plays Advantage (seen by a yellow arrow on the referee icon)!

Did we have this last year or is this new?

If so... Wow!

That was in FM16 :)

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 I noticed that now you can set in the preferences to show all player names, which is good, but it only shows in 3D, would be nice if it also showed in 2D camera.

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Can anyone help with this?

I have searched all over the site (and asked the question twice) but I have yet to discover if the Create A Club mode is active in the beta version of the game. It's an option at the start but is has it been implemented?

I went through the set up process but could not progress from choosing the new club's profile to adding players - the 'continue to' button at the bottom right of the screen could not be selected.

I followed exactly the same procedures as in FM16.

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why not put a "do not show this message again" option when scouting a player for a month/full knowledge and every time it asks if you want to "include match highlights" for the player. it is extremely tedious specially when scouting multiple players and is a waste of time.

the blurry background that appears after clicking some stuff looks really poor and makes the interface seem slow and buggy. should be removed completely from the game.

there is a bug when in player shortlists and scouting all known players and staff. when you click on a player and then go back to the player/staff shortlist screen, it has loaded something else and you can see this something else for 1-2 seconds before it automatically loads what you want. it also very often goes to the top of the page or up which makes it very unpleasant when scouting players.

classic 2D is jerky while 3D runs perfectly fine. my drivers are upto date.

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Feels like in the default skin there needs to be more contrast on the news screens. It's tough to make out the text on the buttons at the bottom of the screen until you click on them.

 

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I think this might have been brought up already.

But...i dont like the new Starting Screen. In previous Versions you could look through the Team, Squad etc. when you were selecting a Team to Start with.
Also i really liked the "Pick a Team for me" Option, which seems to be gone for now.

Maybe i cant find the mentioned things or they are gone for (hopefully just the beta?) ?

 

 

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Hi All,

 

Is it possible to get your clubs social media account to do a poll on a potential signing ?

 

Example :

 

Should Pogba sign for the club ?

 

Thanks

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Yeah, the respond buttons need to be more visible in the news screens. I didn't even realise there was one until the game wouldn't let me continue. 

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16 minutes ago, rallav said:

I think this might have been brought up already.

But...i dont like the new Starting Screen. In previous Versions you could look through the Team, Squad etc. when you were selecting a Team to Start with.
Also i really liked the "Pick a Team for me" Option, which seems to be gone for now.

Maybe i cant find the mentioned things or they are gone for (hopefully just the beta?) ?

 

 

I haven't tried it but if you go past that first screen it says you can pick a team later in the setup process with more information available.

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Quite a few of the GUI complaints on the last couple of pages are skinning issues. I never stick with the default skin - there are some great skinners over in the graphics forum who will have far better and more functional and aesthetic skins out in a few weeks.

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23 hours ago, FrancisM89 said:

From my first impressions, albeit having played one game, but having simmed to 2023 randomly checking on stats and that nothing weird was happening, looks to me to be the most polished Beta in an absolute age.

how did brexit go on your save?

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I keep missing out on International Friendly results as a club manager. Is there anyway to get the results to show? I can't see it in screen flow or see an item to subscribe to

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Just two quick questions, sorry if these have been asked a lot, my phone really doesn't seem to like this website so searching in a real pain!

Will my beta save carry over to the full game and will I be able to use the in game editor on that save once it's released? 

Cheers

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1 minute ago, NotMyCat said:

Just two quick questions, sorry if these have been asked a lot, my phone really doesn't seem to like this website so searching in a real pain!

Will my beta save carry over to the full game and will I be able to use the in game editor on that save once it's released? 

Cheers

Yes and Yes.

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Refunded game through steam already, through watching the games I can see that the engine mechanics I despise are still there - when I play better opposition my players literally turn into morons, making numerous 2 yard passes straight into the opponents path when there isn't even pressure on the ball, it is horrid. What makes it worse is I do not set my tactics to try play like Barca away from home against top teams and then cry when they don't pull it off...

If it wasn't for issues like this the game would be great for me personally but I can't look past them. I'm sure plenty of you will enjoy many hours on it anyway, just giving my 2p.

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4 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

This can't be right surely. I have a player who has picked up a 'shin splints' injury, and it gives me two choices. Send to a specialist where he'll be out for 6 weeks, or leave to physio where he'll be out for 6 MONTHS. 

Six months for shin splints? You generally recover from those in a few weeks. And you certainly don't need to see a specialist!

 

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Hey Dave,

There is an expected discrepancy between the two for this injury type. I myself had shin splints and could not run, nevermind play rugby or football, for over 4 months. Specialist treatment will reduce this period significantly. In this instance the difference does look quite large, but I suspect this may be to do with the very poor quality of your physio? Testing here sees Specialist = 4-5 weeks, Physio = 2-3 months, which is more reasonable. 

If you have any further issues with this or would like us to look into it from a save could you please post in here - https://community.sigames.com/forum/518-other-gameplay-issues/

Cheers,
Seb.

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9 minutes ago, NotMyCat said:

Just two quick questions, sorry if these have been asked a lot, my phone really doesn't seem to like this website so searching in a real pain!

Will my beta save carry over to the full game and will I be able to use the in game editor on that save once it's released? 

Cheers

Yes (unless you wish to include any updates that require a new game) and yes (provided you did not select the option to disable it at game start). Enjoy the save!

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STOPPAGE TIME

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but it did my head in last year and is doing the same this year. 2nd half stoppage time is a joke, there were 6 single subs in my last match and 2 goals and yet only 2 minutes' worth of stoppage time. Sometimes in a 90 mins game you only have 1 minute stoppage time in the second half which is really unrealistic. 

 

Other than that the beta is great, nice work :) 

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4 minutes ago, jmemour said:

STOPPAGE TIME

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but it did my head in last year and is doing the same this year. 2nd half stoppage time is a joke, there were 6 single subs in my last match and 2 goals and yet only 2 minutes' worth of stoppage time. Sometimes in a 90 mins game you only have 1 minute stoppage time in the second half which is really unrealistic. 

 

Other than that the beta is great, nice work :) 

Hey jmemour,

Head over to the ME forum, found here - https://community.sigames.com/forum/515-match-engine-issues/ - and open up a post with an example PKM.

Cheers,
Seb.

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1 hour ago, dalesinwales said:

Can anyone help with this?

I have searched all over the site (and asked the question twice) but I have yet to discover if the Create A Club mode is active in the beta version of the game. It's an option at the start but is has it been implemented?

I went through the set up process but could not progress from choosing the new club's profile to adding players - the 'continue to' button at the bottom right of the screen could not be selected.

I followed exactly the same procedures as in FM16.

I have found the same problem too. Was pretty annoyed as i spent a good hour jazzing up my kits and making a nice badge for my team haha.

If anyone can answer this it would be a good one to know to save me raising as a bug.

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"Football hipsters everywhere will be delighted to see Barney Winterbottom at Wellington Phoenix, could be a match made in heaven"

I wonder what prompted this response lol. Anyone with a bun and beard is going to have to pay double to get past the turnstiles, haha.

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1 hour ago, josh381991 said:

Hi All,

 

Is it possible to get your clubs social media account to do a poll on a potential signing ?

 

Example :

 

Should Pogba sign for the club ?

 

Thanks

 

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2 hours ago, dalesinwales said:

Can anyone help with this?

I have searched all over the site (and asked the question twice) but I have yet to discover if the Create A Club mode is active in the beta version of the game. It's an option at the start but is has it been implemented?

I went through the set up process but could not progress from choosing the new club's profile to adding players - the 'continue to' button at the bottom right of the screen could not be selected.

I followed exactly the same procedures as in FM16.

Can you raise this issue here please? - https://community.sigames.com/forum/521-create-a-club-and-fantasy-draft-issues/

Thanks. 

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14 hours ago, kamackeris said:

maybe i should. i want it as sim as possible so i have always thought the classic version was a cop out almost. i remember your name dave like ten years ago when i used to be extremely active on this forum when i had a previous username and was addicted. i see you are still here...you play the full game?? also someone else posted about average ratings seemingly being too tied to goals and assists....always a massive bugbear of mine that

I play the 'full FAT' version of FM just like I did CM93 all those years ago. Yes there is a lot more fluff in the game, but you can divert that elsewhere and it dosent matter really. I get success, I get failures.... but at the end of it, I have fun. What I mean by divert is to delegate everything else out to your staff... training, scouting, staff contracts etc, they nice to have in the game, but its not vital to any success you have.

All I do, is play the game on very fast commentary... and the game flies this year, probably the fastest FM ever in how quick you can get game to game. In terms of what I do in game, I buy players, I sell players, I deal with player contracts, I pick a tactic and then pick the team. You wont feel like you are missing out on anything in terms of going to the classic mode and in reality, it makes the game simple again.

I even just pick a pre-made tactic from the game list, generally 4-4-2.  I think and its probably not stated enough tbh, I think that although the game is more in depth than ever, at its core, its still CM and if you are in the mindset, then you can play it like that and live those memories again.

Just an opinion that may help you out :)

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dont know is it glich or something in fm 16 you have a young player who turns enough old for professional contract and on inbox u get news to give him new contract with his profile with potential ability and so but in fm 17 u only like get the sentence that player is elegible for new contarct and nothing else 

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18 hours ago, zakbrown96 said:

Wonder if someone can help me where do I find staff background feedback like what formation I should play and what areas players need too improve as can't find the tab on fm17 

Backroom advice has undergone a bit of a revamp this year.

Instead of having its own dedicated screen, this advice now arrives via the inbox through news items. For match advice, you will get it just before the match. You can adjust how frequently you see these inbox items via the Staff Responsibilities screen.

There is also a newly-added contextual backroom advice button (just under the continue button in the top right), which will show on various screens if there is relevant advice generated to show. The advice here will relate to which screen you are on, so you will see different advice on tactical, staff, player profiles etc.

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1 hour ago, corneille said:

I keep missing out on International Friendly results as a club manager. Is there anyway to get the results to show? I can't see it in screen flow or see an item to subscribe to

Sure! Go to the Social Feed and in the bottom right hand corner there is a button 'Manage'. Select this and a popup will show. Select 'Nations' from the dropdown and use the edit/pencil button. From here you can check or uncheck the two options in matches - Match Reports (Competitive) or Match Reports (Non-Competitive).

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Great work on the condition/match sharpness at amateur level. My players are actually match fit in time for the start of the season now,
instead of having to wait half-way through the season. Don't have to play an absurd amount of friendlies either to acheive it :thup:

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After 15 games i have more than 2 woodworks per game (mine or opponent). Someone else saw something like this?

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55 minutes ago, Glenn Wakeford said:

Sure! Go to the Social Feed and in the bottom right hand corner there is a button 'Manage'. Select this and a popup will show. Select 'Nations' from the dropdown and use the edit/pencil button. From here you can check or uncheck the two options in matches - Match Reports (Competitive) or Match Reports (Non-Competitive).

Is there a way to get those results in my Inbox ? Social Feed is kinda hard to read as its overflooded with informations and something like results from other teams are easily overlooked.
 

At first I thought that the social feed would only act as some kind of gimmick, but somehow it works like a Inbox 2.0, just worse. Meh.

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Players still get arsey about being asked to train in one natural position over another, really tiresome bug/feature/whatever.


In 16 lists of staff (selecting who for coaching advice/scouting, etc.) offered the relevant attributes next to each name for making a quick and easy choice, really miss this in 17.


The initial club selection screen hangs for long periods on my low-powered machine (in contrast to the rest of the game which is wonderfully snappy vs 16) leaving me unable to select the Quick/Advanced Start buttons.


Otherwise, it's a thing of joyous beauty. Be happy o/

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Hi Fm-ers,

Been happy with this version thus far.  However, been facing some problem.  Not too sure if it has been reported.

1.  the positioning of the stretcher carrier (?).  Is it intended to be as the pictures below..?

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2.  my laptop is running on GeForce GTX 765M.  I'm watching the match in 3D.  The animation seems to stutter, especially when i set the Match Speed Slider for During Highlights to -1, ie 1 notch to the left.  Anyone with the same graphics card facing this problem..?

3.  everytime i load the game, it'll stuck at the opening scene, ie screening of SI logo.  I have to press control + alternate + delete to get it running again.  I'm facing the same problem with FM2016.  Is there any workaround to this problem..?

4. when i'm at the Start Menu, loading last game option did not bring me to the last game saved.  In FM2016 and earlier version, this doesn't seem to be the way.  Is it intended for the current version..?

Looking forward to 4th November. :hammer:

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So far enjoying it, only negatives found so far is the transition from screens say clicking from squad to news is that it seems slow and sluggish and fading from one to the other is poor.

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4 hours ago, dalesinwales said:

Can anyone help with this?

I have searched all over the site (and asked the question twice) but I have yet to discover if the Create A Club mode is active in the beta version of the game. It's an option at the start but is has it been implemented?

I went through the set up process but could not progress from choosing the new club's profile to adding players - the 'continue to' button at the bottom right of the screen could not be selected.

I followed exactly the same procedures as in FM16.

 

It's likely that this has something to do with the city you've chosen for your club, the issue is under review but for a short term fix if you avoid a city with brackets in the name - such as Dallas (TX) - then you should be able to advance and pick your squad. The capital city of the nation in which you are playing will always work. 

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8 minutes ago, ak71 said:

Hi Fm-ers,

Been happy with this version thus far.  However, been facing some problem.  Not too sure if it has been reported.

1.  the positioning of the stretcher carrier (?).  Is it intended to be as the pictures below..?

2.  my laptop is running on GeForce GTX 765M.  I'm watching the match in 3D.  The animation seems to stutter, especially when i set the Match Speed Slider for During Highlights to -1, ie 1 notch to the left.  Anyone with the same graphics card facing this problem..?

3.  everytime i load the game, it'll stuck at the opening scene, ie screening of SI logo.  I have to press control + alternate + delete to get it running again.  I'm facing the same problem with FM2016.  Is there any workaround to this problem..?

4. when i'm at the Start Menu, loading last game option did not bring me to the last game saved.  In FM2016 and earlier version, this doesn't seem to be the way.  Is it intended for the current version..?

Looking forward to 4th November. :hammer:

 

Can you raise these in the relevant area of the bugs forum please? 1 and 2 for the match engine, 3 for PC Tech and 4 for UI? The forum can be found here - https://community.sigames.com/forum/512-football-manager-2017-pre-release-beta-bugs-forum/

Thanks. 

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Don't want to go all political, but since SI have dipped their toes with Brexit and WC22 last year, I think I can raise this, as it is in UEFA rules.

 

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Serbia and Kosovo shouldn't be drawn together in groups in any competitions, just like Spain - Gibraltar and Armenia - Azerbeijan. Can you hard code this in the game?

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Disappointed with all the reports in the bug section about again too many goals scored. This was also the case in FM15 but sorted out in FM16 which had a realistic amount of goals...

But i will check it out myself and pre-order the game anyway.:-)

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11 minutes ago, SkaldfraNorden said:

Don't want to go all political, but since SI have dipped their toes with Brexit and WC22 last year, I think I can raise this, as it is in UEFA rules.

 

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Serbia and Kosovo shouldn't be drawn together in groups in any competitions, just like Spain - Gibraltar and Armenia - Azerbeijan. Can you hard code this in the game?

Could you post this in the bugs forum please? https://community.sigames.com/forum/519-league-specific-issues/

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1 minute ago, Defensive said:

Disappointed with all the reports in the bug section about again too many goals scored. This was also the case in FM15 but sorted out in FM16 which had a realistic amount of goals...

But i will check it out myself and pre-order the game anyway.:-)

Don't pay too much attention to them. They're barely "reports" for one (lack of saves/PKMs) and based on extremely small sample sizes (2 or 3 matches) and without tactical detail or what AI v AI games look like.

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35 minutes ago, Alerion said:

Is there a way to get those results in my Inbox ? Social Feed is kinda hard to read as its overflooded with informations and something like results from other teams are easily overlooked.
 

At first I thought that the social feed would only act as some kind of gimmick, but somehow it works like a Inbox 2.0, just worse. Meh.

The decision was made this year to split the inbox. The inbox is now for stuff relating specifically to you or your club, whereas general subscribed news will show in the feed. If you find the feed too busy for your tastes, you can unsubscribe or reduce the levels you are seeing via the 'Manage' button on the Social Feed screen.

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17 minutes ago, SkaldfraNorden said:

Don't want to go all political, but since SI have dipped their toes with Brexit and WC22 last year, I think I can raise this, as it is in UEFA rules.

Seria and Kosovo shouldn't be drawn together in groups in any competitions, just like Spain - Gibraltar and Armenia - Azerbeijan. Can you hard code this in the game?

Thanks for the information.

This rule should already be in place, we will have a look into why it has not worked in this scenario.

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12 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:

Don't pay too much attention to them. They're barely "reports" for one (lack of saves/PKMs) and based on extremely small sample sizes (2 or 3 matches) and without tactical detail or what AI v AI games look like.

To be honest, the issue is nowhere near FM 2015 levels and in fact i think it can be adjusted in the editor. Too many managers have 4-4-2 as preffered formation withouth any DM's and it's exactly those teams that score and concede more than the others. I sincerily doubt that flat 4-4-2 is that much used IRL compared to how it is in FM.

 

too bad we don't have a beta editor. :D

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Gawd please give us a way to suppress the Are you sure you want to Scout? messages, it's getting old fast :(

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36 minutes ago, Glenn Wakeford said:

The decision was made this year to split the inbox. The inbox is now for stuff relating specifically to you or your club, whereas general subscribed news will show in the feed. If you find the feed too busy for your tastes, you can unsubscribe or reduce the levels you are seeing via the 'Manage' button on the Social Feed screen.

Is there a way to default from 'continue' to 'inbox'? I keep being sent to 'social feed' and sorry, but I don't find anything of the slightest use or interest in there whereas everything of interest appears in the inbox.

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Am I blind or is it not possible to see exactly how good a players weak foot is anymore? Now you can only know the preferred foot. There used to be a separate screen where the positions and PPMs were, and there you could see how good the player's feet were.

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1 hour ago, Luke Warrington said:

 

It's likely that this has something to do with the city you've chosen for your club, the issue is under review but for a short term fix if you avoid a city with brackets in the name - such as Dallas (TX) - then you should be able to advance and pick your squad. The capital city of the nation in which you are playing will always work. 

Thank you for your reply, Luke. I have tried what you suggested and you're right: the only way to Create A Club around a Welsh team (Cardiff/Swansea/Wrexham/Newport) is to base the new club in Cardiff - trying to locate it in any other Welsh town or city doesn't work. 

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