GunmaN1905 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yea, that's why Conte didn't make any subs. This is bound to happen when Italy's playing, haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vessey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 What on earth was Boateng doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I thought stuttered run ups were banned now ?He pretty much stopped there never mind stuttered. Think it's only in the final stride where you can't do it. But he was very late with it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 this game has become better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Feel thats harsh but good for the match. Said before the replay I'm guessing? Very, very blatant penalty. Unbelievably stupid from Boateng. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 certain pen, about as blatant as you an get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Said before the replay I'm guessing? Very, very blatant penalty. Unbelievably stupid from Boateng. Its that he has his hands up to show the ref he isn't holding the man then ball to hand from such a short distance (12 inch maybe). Just feels like such a soft penalty that wasn't anywhere near intentional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Its that he has his hands up to show the ref he isn't holding the man then ball to hand from such a short distance (12 inch maybe).Just feels like such a soft penalty that wasn't anywhere near intentional. This, 100%. Hands are up because the Italian is about to chuck himself on the floor and try and win a soft pen. Very harsh for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Its that he has his hands up to show the ref he isn't holding the man then ball to hand from such a short distance (12 inch maybe).Just feels like such a soft penalty that wasn't anywhere near intentional. You're unlikely to see a clearer penalty in this competition. He could have held his arms out wide instead of in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Its that he has his hands up to show the ref he isn't holding the man then ball to hand from such a short distance (12 inch maybe).Just feels like such a soft penalty that wasn't anywhere near intentional. He doesn't need to have his hands up at all, it's his own stupid fault. He may not have "intentionally" done it, but he's put his hands in an unnatural position where there's a good chance the ball will be flicked on to and hit his hand, as obviously happened. Referee has no choice at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 You're unlikely to see a clearer penalty in this competition. We've seen several clearer already and also several ball to hand examples in the box that haven't been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 We've seen several clearer already and also several ball to hand examples in the box that haven't been given. His hands are in the air! he then blocked the ball, of course it is clear cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 His hands are in the air! he then blocked the ball, of course it is clear cut. To be a penalty it has to be "deliberate handball" and no-one can seriously suggest thats what it was: In Fifa's Laws of the Game 2005, Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player "handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's my first comment in here tonight...but overall this game has been ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It was a definite pen imo...and as definite as I've seen, so definitely definite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's my first comment in here tonight...but overall this game has been ****. Think it's been a great game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Think it's been a great game.Are you being serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's been a great game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's been a great game.Are you also being serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 To be a penalty it has to be "deliberate handball" and no-one can seriously suggest thats what it was: part of judging whether or not a handball is deliberate is if his arm was in an unnatural position or not and it was most definitely in an unnatural position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 To be a penalty it has to be "deliberate handball" and no-one can seriously suggest thats what it was: Yes, but referees have to take into account whether the player's hands were in a natural position or not. Boateng's hands are clearly not. You could have players all the time doing that and blocking ball but hiding behind "oh but I totes didn't mean to!!!!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 part of judging whether or not a handball is deliberate is if his arm was in an unnatural position or not and it was most definitely in an unnatural position Get out, cms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 To be a penalty it has to be "deliberate handball" and no-one can seriously suggest thats what it was: Under the rules the ref only has to determine if the players hands were in an unnatural position, if the ref says they are then he has to give the penalty. I'm sure you will agree his hands were in an unnatural position. Did you also notice how all the Italian players asked for the penalty and none of the Germans argued about the decision? Players reactions are for the most part correct in this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Are you also being serious? More or less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Definite pen for those that are arguing btw...and really definite, not even a question to be asked imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Christ we all answered at the same time!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 More or less.Haha...I'll go with that judgement then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Under the rules the ref only has to determine if the players hands were in an unnatural position, if the ref says they are then he has to give the penalty.I'm sure you will agree his hands were in an unnatural position. Did you also notice how all the Italian players asked for the penalty and none of the Germans argued about the decision? Players reactions are for the most part correct in this situation. I was saying the same thing with a relative before I saw this. The Italians reactions and German's lack of reaction influenced the ref. Muller has been poor once again. It is only because of his reputation why he has not been dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Christ we all answered at the same time!! I'm glad someone was slower than me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I was saying the same thing with a relative before I saw this. The Italians reactions and German's lack of reaction influenced the ref.Muller has been poor once again. It is only because of his reputation why he has not been dropped. I think Boateng standing with his hands in the air for no reason probably influenced the ref more tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yeah I think the non reaction from Germany was more because they were saying "wtf are doing with your hands up there!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I think Boateng standing with his hands in the air for no reason probably influenced the ref more tbh Don't get me wrong it was right decision but if Italians did not protest so profusely, I think he would have deliberated longer and maybe not have given it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Are you being serious? Yeah I've really enjoyed this game. Definitely has a big game feel about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Don't get me wrong it was right decision but if Italians did not protest so profusely, I think he would have deliberated longer and maybe not have given it. He gave it pretty quickly didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Italy are going to have 22 players' yellow cards rescinded after this match at the rate their going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well that was never a yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I'd like a shootout. Germany don't lose shootouts and Italy don't lose to Germany. Something has to give, would be very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Pelle's blatantly scoring in the 119th minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 He gave it pretty quickly didn't he? Yeah, that is my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I'd like a shootout. Germany don't lose shootouts and Italy don't lose to Germany. Something has to give, would be very interesting. Or you know, an infinite shootout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well that was never a yellow. I get the feeling that the officials have been instructed that a player leaving their leg hanging for contact is no longer a foul against the defender & can be called as simulation if they believe the players was already on the way to ground before that contact is made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Could Conte maybe bring on Insigne for the last 15 here for some pace to exploit tired legs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I get the feeling that the officials have been instructed that a player leaving their leg hanging for contact is no longer a foul against the defender & can be called as simulation if they believe the players was already on the way to ground before that contact is made. It actually looked more like the defender hit his leg, not sure what else he could have done but go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yeah, that is my point. Misread your post, my bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Conte should continue with the Insigne sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I do like Insigne, hope he does something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 And maybe that's why Insigne isn't trusted by Conte Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This is good news for Iceland/France cos the Italians and Germans will be pretty tired after this. Can already see it in the mistakes they're making now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis007 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This is good news for Iceland/France cos the Italians and Germans will be pretty tired after this. Unless, of course, Iceland/France goes to ET/Penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This is good news for Iceland/France cos the Italians and Germans will be pretty tired after this. Can already see it in the mistakes they're making now. I can hardly see anything. It's almost 3 a.m. here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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