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Group B - Slovakia V England & Russia V Wales

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England want to play through the middle, but don't have any one playing in the pocket, so one of the narrow wide forwards drops in, which means the only outside advanced movement is from a full back. Should be playing diamond, since our best buts of play this tournament come from central interplay, and the full backs are already well advanced.

Shame Hodgson left us unable to play any other way, complete lack of wingers taken.

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England want to play through the middle, but don't have any one playing in the pocket, so one of the narrow wide forwards drops in, which means the only outside advanced movement is from a full back. Should be playing diamond, since our best buts of play this tournament come from central interplay, and the full backs are already well advanced.

Well we are resting our best FB's.

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If Wales gave us a game like they are playing against Russia, we would have been in trouble there too

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We've been awful. Hodgson has to take full responsibility for this.

Or, you know, the 11 players out there. It's hardly an under 18 team.

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Shame Hodgson left us unable to play any other way, complete lack of wingers taken.

Exactly. It's a top heavy squad best suited to the diamond, but we are playing 4-3-3 instead. Lallana has looked good (before being subbed) because he is capable of playing wide and at 10. He actually should England's 10 in a diamond.

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Yeah...not Hodgson's fault this. We've had the right play and chances, maybe not many cutting edge ones, but we should have definitely created more with this team. Just one of those types of matches, seen them before and there'll be others like this yet. Not the worst I've seen from us by a long shot...knockouts could see us being completely different really, or just go out first round. Football innit :(

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Or, you know, the 11 players out there. It's hardly an under 18 team.

Should have started with the best eleven.

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Only good thing for England is least in the knockouts teams wont just have 11 men behind the ball likes Slovakia and Wales did

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Rooney stop running with the ball, you're too old and slow now.

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Yeah...not Hodgson's fault this. We've had the right play and chances, maybe not many cutting edge ones, but we should have definitely created more with this team. Just one of those types of matches, seen them before and there'll be others like this yet. Not the worst I've seen from us by a long shot...knockouts could see us being completely different really, or just go out first round. Football innit :(

We haven't had the right play at all. No ideas whatsoever.

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Yeah...not Hodgson's fault this. We've had the right play and chances, maybe not many cutting edge ones, but we should have definitely created more with this team. Just one of those types of matches, seen them before and there'll be others like this yet. Not the worst I've seen from us by a long shot...knockouts could see us being completely different really, or just go out first round. Football innit :(
But that's partly the reason. The shape with our personnel hasn't really fot the best from our front three, or the midfield. Vardy not existent, Sturridge pulling narrow and deep from a wide position he shouldn't really be in. Trying to create interplay in the pocket without a striker dropping deep, nor a 10 there. All sub optimal.

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Should have started with the best eleven.

Whats a best eleven?

Really isn't such a thing in the England squad, several of the players are at a similar level.

I think a big positive in the group games is the way we've had the bulk of the ball and looked fairly solid at the back.

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Only good thing for England is least in the knockouts teams wont just have 11 men behind the ball likes Slovakia and Wales did

If we play Hungary or Iceland they might.

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5 mins stoppage time didn't start until 1 minute in and we only play until 95? Odd

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Well we got the result we deserved. It will be interesting to see who we get.

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But that's partly the reason. The shape with our personnel hasn't really fot the best from our front three, or the midfield.
I agree with this really...I think a better formation is needed with the squad he's chosen compared to the first 11 we've played so far.

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Wales wins the group :cool:

England 2nd and Slovakia should also make it with their 4 points

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Whats a best eleven?

The one that couldn't beat Russia. Or started against Wales. Hmm.

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At least you guys can celebrate 50th anniversary of your World Cup win, because at this rate you're not gonna accomplish much.

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****ing useless.

Terrible team choice from Woy.

Players are far more at fault than Roy is today.

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Ha, amazing for Wales.

Portugal are so going to come second and knock England out in last 16

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**** this tournament. :mad:

Stats for Portugal vs England next Monday. 93284252 shots each. 0 goals. Ronaldo to score the winning penalty in the shootout.

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That was dismal. We didn't have a clue how to break them down.

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Just don't know how anyone can defend that performance. No imagination, no tempo, barely tested the keeper (hardly at all in the second half). Just meaningless possession for 90 minutes.

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****ing spineless performance from Slovakia, offered utterly nothing and just sat everyone behind the ball, never even tried to go forward

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That was ****. Far too slow and too many midfielders trying to play through the middle. It's not fashionable to get the ball wide to a winger and lump crosses in the box but it would be better that pile of ****.

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**** this tournament. :mad:

Stats for Portugal vs England next Monday. 93284252 shots each. 0 goals. Ronaldo to score the winning penalty in the shootout.

As the prophecy foretold.

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How has Barkley not been used yet btw? Would have been ideal in a game like that.

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Poor team selection, who else rests players after 4 point from 2 games?

Lack of wingers was glaring, the Rooney/Vardy/Kane thing doesn't work. Surely you'd be better off having someone like Townsend in the squad, actual winger for the last 15 mins.

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