Group B - England vs England B (involving some Welsh players) 14:00 BBC 1

[GunmaN1905]

[Sid1984]

By far the better team They've offered nothing. Neither have England of course.

They haven't offered a lot but that is a hell of a lot more than what England have offered.

[foofighter23]

we need to go 2 upfront and get sterling and maybe kane off

and the only reason id keep alli atm is because he is capable of scoring.

[Darren Moores Mum]

Ah yes, because Kane is scoring for fun and Walker is a technical God with Beckham like quality with his delivery.

And I'm sure Clyne can definitely show that.

[Pukey]

They haven't offered a lot but that is a hell of a lot more than what England have offered.

Don't think one free kick is "a hell of a lot more" than what England have done but ok then.

[Retro]

Oooops

I have Wales in the sweepstake... the dream is alive!!

[midgetram]

Nice to see Shearer taking the exact point I was about to write. Far too narrow in the front 3. Rooney has been dire too, easy to say he's not a Centre Mid but not sure what's he actually doing today apart from being bypassed in defence far too much. Wilshere (or Milner even) needs to be on. Think Sterling's chance was a lot harder than people give credit for, it's essentially a stretch on the half-volley. Difficult to control and doubtful anybody else actually gets on the end of it.

[SOStriker]

Rooney has been poor, just hoofing the ball forward with most of them being poor. He caused the goal as well and has been lazy in midfield.

We're too narrow, it's Hodgson fault for not taking wingers.

You've got you're blinkers on again aiston. Don't like a player so think he's poor every game. Rooney gave away the foul but beyond that he's passing been very good, I think he's only given the ball away once all half.

[Barry Cartman]

Hopefully this ends up being a blessing, if changes come at half time and we end up getting a result then he may not persist with this team and formation

[Gorando]

Hodgson best paid manager at this tournament

What a waste of money

[Lermon]

Rainieri should be next England manager. He managed the impossible.

[aiston]

You've got you're blinkers on again aiston. Don't like a player so think he's poor every game. Rooney gave away the foul but beyond that he's passing been very good, I think he's only given the ball away once all half.

Rooney has given the ball away 5-6 times, I am also included times where the player the ball went to couldn't get to it but got touch (like walker at the end)..also when Rose has to slide to stop the ball going out. Rooney offers nothing someone like Wilshere can, at least he is a midfielder.

[Sid1984]

Don't think one free kick is "a hell of a lot more" than what England have done but ok then.

one free kick is a hell of a lot more than absolutely nothing.

[Divinity]

Hopefully this ends up being a blessing, if changes come at half time and we end up getting a result then he may not persist with this team and formation

It's Hodgson you're talking about.

[Pukey]

one free kick is a hell of a lot more than absolutely nothing.

Several corners caused problems, Sterling missed a sitter, penalty shout (I'd argue it wasn't one)

Not saying it's a lot, but again, Wales didn't do more.

[Dave Vessey]

Why can't we just play 442? We've never been capable of playing as continental nations do.

Probably a bit late now after Woy failed to pick any wide players, but this system is so bloody turgid and pedestrian.

[aiston]

one free kick is a hell of a lot more than absolutely nothing.

You haven't been watching the game have you.

[Paul Bacon]

Only so much you can blame the manager. Its typical England and have been like this for years, even before Hodgson. They just choke and cant handle pressure when it matters

[ReggaeBwoy]

One thing this formation shows is that if you are having 1 upfront, Vardy is the better fit. Kane needs to have someone upfront with him or just playing off him. Having a diamond and a striker who is not that fast is bound to cause yourself problems. Interesting to see what Woy does at H/T

[adhikapp]

And Vardy and Sturridge are still on the bench. Get them the **** on Hodgson.

[Vynal Seven]

You haven't been watching the game have you.

Don't think Sid is sufficiently evolved to have developed what we'd consider 'eyes'.

[m_fenton]

I'd back any other recent England team pre-Hodgson to be winning this one.

[SOStriker]

Rooney has given the ball away 5-6 times, I am also included times where the player the ball went to couldn't get to it but got touch (like walker at the end)..also when Rose has to slide to stop the ball going out. Rooney offers nothing someone like Wilshere can, at least he is a midfielder.

That ball to Walker: It wasn't a perfect pass but Walker needed to be faster, he practically jogged to it like he didn't fancy it. He can run faster than that.

[Vynal Seven]

Only so much you can blame the manager. Its typical England and have been like this for years, even before Hodgson. They just choke and cant handle pressure when it matters

Before at least pressure was a QF or SF. Hodgson the dinosaur has managed to make pressure the 2nd group game.

[Redshift]

Sturidge on? And Vardy? \o/

[aiston]

Fair play Hodgson, late but at least subs.

[Anti Spiral]

who's gone off?

[Dave Vessey]

Well at least he's trying something.

[Pukey]

Vardy and Sturridge

[foofighter23]

STURRIDGE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wowsers vardy too,, we do have hope...!

[SOStriker]

YES ROY. The two changes that needed to happen.

[Matthew Le God]

I'd back any other recent England team pre-Hodgson to be winning this one.

I'd back this England generation (with a competent manager) to do a lot better.

People blame the player quality for England's woes, I blame the FA's inability (over last 20 years) to pick suitable managers for the wages they offer.

[Welshace]

I'm sad to say.. but I predict an equaliser in the first 10 minutes of the half.

[dking]

Now watch Sturridge score.

[SOStriker]

who's gone off?

Sterling & Kane off, in case you missed it.

[Divinity]

Only so much you can blame the manager. Its typical England and have been like this for years, even before Hodgson. They just choke and cant handle pressure when it matters

What pressure? Nobody's expected England to do much in this tournament.

[Ackter]

Goddamn it Hodgson. Now isn't the time to grow some balls

[ajw10]

Hodgson changing the strikers without even touching the awful midfield.

Proper ENGLISH PASSION stuff

[aiston]

Now watch Sturridge score.

Or get injured.

[daylight]

The message from Hodgson will be clear to the guys coming on, ffs go out there and save my job.

[Welshace]

Now would be a good time to see Gunter and Williams knock several shades out of Vardy and Sturridge please..

[Barry Cartman]

Sturridge already beat more players than Sterling in the tournament

[Redshift]

Or get injured.

Perfect for Rashford to come on.

[ReggaeBwoy]

Kane has been awful but I think he needed Vardy or Sturridge alongsisde him. Sterling already calls himself 'the hated one'. Just imagine the amount of flack he is going to get now.

[dking]

Reactive Roy

[Sid1984]

Don't think Sid is sufficiently evolved to have developed what we'd consider 'eyes'.

Anyone with knowledge of football would tell you that Wales despite being poor has been better than the diabolical England in the first half. Fully deserved lead.

[Welshace]

Anyone with knowledge of football would tell you that Wales despite being poor has been better than the diabolical England in the first half. Fully deserved lead.

I'm Welsh through and through and you're talking rubbish.... Wales are clinging on by the skin of their teeth frankly.

[Ackter]

I'm surprised at how likeabl' Savage has been on commentary so far. Though that could be because he;s there with Keown.

[ReggaeBwoy]

I'm Welsh through and through and you're talking rubbish.... Wales are clinging on by the skin of their teeth frankly.

How is he chatting rubbish? England have had more possession but what did they actually do with it first half? Deserved lead imo.

[PaulHartman71]

Take Sturridge off!