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I've been playing Champ Man/Football Manager since the 00/01 season. I bought the new release most years and played for hundreds of hours. However, for the past couple of years I can't seem to finish a season.

I usually start a save with Man Utd (who I support), get bored around October-December, and switch to Rangers (who I also support) and can't get past the first month.

Also, I usually use the editor. I know, I know.. But I've been using it for a few years now and can't seem to manage these two teams without it. I guess it just sucks seeing how they're playing in real life and wanting badly to improve them.

Also, the full version seems to take ages to play through. It used to take me half a day for half a season, now I'm lucky if I get two months!

Should I try playing a save with a different team? Or stop using the editor? Touch mode? How can I get back to the days of losing hours to this game!

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If you're finding the full game is taking too long, try the Classic version. Put all your preconceptions to one side and just dive in and enjoy it. There's no editor in that mode, so you also won't be be tempted to boost stats, etc. You can rattle through seasons in no time, and it's the exact same match engine, tactics, analysis, etc.

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Only you can decide how you get enjoyment.

My advice though would be stop using the editor, manage a team you've never heard of and don't know the players. Take your time, don't rush and get to know the players from playing matches.

You could also try the touch mode which takes out a lot of the off-field stuff and would perhaps speed up the game for you somewhat.

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I will also say try the Classic mode (Touch), it will be a quicker game as it takes out a lot of the media & player interactions, it gets a fair bit of negative comments but just try it and see what you think.

As for a game, maybe try a career game (Journeyman save) and see where it takes you, maybe with the aim to get the Man Utd job one day.

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Don't try the Classic version, it won't be for you. Plan your save before hand and I mean really plan. Write down a formation you want to implement on your team. Do some research into the style you want to play. I always plan my saves at work and think who I can buy/sell for certain positions and it seriously makes me want to play for a couple of hours when I get home.

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Don't try the Classic version, it won't be for you.

How on earth do you know that? One of his main gripes was the time it takes to get through a season on the main game.

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How on earth do you know that? One of his main gripes was the time it takes to get through a season on the main game.

If you actually read the post he talks about using the editor. The editor isn't in FM classic.

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If you actually read the post he talks about using the editor. The editor isn't in FM classic.

Unlike you, I read ALL the post. He also talks about possibly giving up the editor as a means to enjoy the game again. Add that to not wanting the season to last for weeks, and I'd say Classic should be something he should at least try.

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I have editor on but i never actually use it to change anything, once you start using editor in a save it becomes a slippery slope. Generally people who abuse editor in game also load previous saves when a result does not go their way. So i recommend never saving until you are going to stop playing, and never using editor. If you want to use editor because the game starts do so, but refrain from ever touching it once the game begins.

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So i recommend never saving until you are going to stop playing

Thats just asking to lose months of gametime due to a computer crash or power outage or something similar. I have mine set to 5 rolling biweekly saves.

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Don't try the Classic version, it won't be for you.

The only way to really know is if he tries it.

So i recommend never saving until you are going to stop playing.

Not a great idea, saving often isn't about cheating, well not for most people anyway, I save my game quite often because I hate having to replay games if something happens, that is regardless of the results.

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Find a team with a story or some personal meaning to you. Whether it is somewhere you went on holiday, or maybe a team that has a unique transfer policy like Athletic Bilbao. Or someone unique like Melilla who are the only African club playing in Europe. Or do a challenge such as the Gibraltar or San Marino challenge. The possibilities are endless!! The key is finding a club that you have a connection with

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If you want something silly, you could attempt a challenge I came up with a bit ago for a less serious save.

Alliterative Teams. Take a team as far as you can only hiring players with alliterative names.

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I always start unemployed, Sunday League rep and holiday until I get offered a job. Brings a nice sense of randomness to the game and you have to work your way up from the bottom. Also gives you a bit of a challenge as whatever job you get will almost certainly be with a team who are in a mess. Having a few different leagues loaded makes it more fun as you'll usually get a job in some small foreign league and you can make it your goal to make it to the PL or something (I'm managing in Finland atm).

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FM Classic is one option, couple this with a team/league you've never managed before. As mentioned earlier.

Another option is to just take a break from the game. I often do this for a couple of months. I've recently been on a break from FM for a few months and just started up a game on my old FM12 World League because I was getting bored of the regular game.

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Going away and coming back is the right answer. If you're not enjoying the game then doing something different within the same game probably isn't going to cut it. It could, but probably not as much as not touching it all. Then wait until you start to miss the game and start again. You'll definitely enjoy it more then.

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You're a Man Utd and a Rangers fan? There's clearly no helping you!

But seriously, go away from your comfort clubs and try something completely different. New clubs, new leagues...

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I usually base my game around a fictional character as my manager and give them objectives that suit their story.

One of my favourites was on FM12 where my manager was named "Jihad Jones," and he was an American-Afghan who had travelled to Denmark as a diplomat during the offensive cartoon scandal in order to soothe relations in the area. During this time he accrued a love for Brondby, who he watched on a regular basis. Realising that football could be the perfect vessel for a political message of integration, Jihad Jones became a manager.

A job offer arrived from Odense, co-incidentally home of the only active Afghan player I could find. The story that I added to this was that the player in question had recommended me to the board, and he immediately became my captain.

Jihad Jones' objective was clear, turn OB into a highly diverse team that could represent a new Denmark on the European stage.

Objectives:

No two players from any one nation (apart from Denmark)

Win a European trophy

Raise the co-efficient of Denmark to get more European places.

Jihad Jones was well received by the fans, and he endeared himself to them by immediately touring Odense (*cough* google street view*) and greeting the locals. Eventually Jihad would live in the house next door to the one owned by Hans Christian Andersen, using this link to promote his new range of children's stories, which swept the entire nation. He would eventually become recognised as the most famous citizen of Odense of all time.

But he never won that European trophy.

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I usually base my game around a fictional character as my manager and give them objectives that suit their story.

One of my favourites was on FM12 where my manager was named "Jihad Jones," and he was an American-Afghan who had travelled to Denmark as a diplomat during the offensive cartoon scandal in order to soothe relations in the area. During this time he accrued a love for Brondby, who he watched on a regular basis. Realising that football could be the perfect vessel for a political message of integration, Jihad Jones became a manager.

A job offer arrived from Odense, co-incidentally home of the only active Afghan player I could find. The story that I added to this was that the player in question had recommended me to the board, and he immediately became my captain.

Jihad Jones' objective was clear, turn OB into a highly diverse team that could represent a new Denmark on the European stage.

Objectives:

No two players from any one nation (apart from Denmark)

Win a European trophy

Raise the co-efficient of Denmark to get more European places.

Jihad Jones was well received by the fans, and he endeared himself to them by immediately touring Odense (*cough* google street view*) and greeting the locals. Eventually Jihad would live in the house next door to the one owned by Hans Christian Andersen, using this link to promote his new range of children's stories, which swept the entire nation. He would eventually become recognised as the most famous citizen of Odense of all time.

But he never won that European trophy.

I imagine you'd write a decent career thread/story if that - and your tendency for the verbose - is anything to go by :p

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Odense also has the biggest ghetto in Denmark, so plenty of diverse talent to pick from... ;)

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