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So I've been browsing tactics both here and in Steam and I feel that there is a large amount of 4-5-1 tactics out there. Infact it seems a majority is.

This got me intrigued so I started looking into what the AI is playing. Now, I'm far from sure how accurate this is and wether these are just a snapshot of a temporary tactic but 3 seasons into the game the tactics for the top 50 clubs in the world look like this:

38 clubs playing 4-5-1. Out of these 24 was playing with AMC and 14 with DM.

2 clubs playing with a tactic not involving wingers. Both with 4 men in the back.

4 clubs played 4-4-2

3 clubs played 4-4-1-1

3 clubs played 4-1-4-1

Is the 4-5-1 that popular IRL as well? I feel it is a very balanced tactics generally and I have nothing against it. Just thinking if this is something FM-related or if actual top football is a 4-5-1 affair?

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There's certainly a current tendency for that formation here in the UK right now, but as with all things, tendencies change.

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Yes this is the case IRL atm, especially if you compare to 10 years ago when I believe only chelsea (zola playing as a attackign midfielder) and one other team played with 1 striker up top. Today i believe only Watford and Leicester play with 2 strikers. This is the influence of Mourinho and Chelsea on the Premier League. However even Okazaki drops deep often to link up play and fight for possession.

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There is a big difference between a 451 with a DM & a 451 with an AMC.

So much so that I would personally say they were different formations.

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Fair enough. Too bad it doesn't change in FM.

It can & does change in FM but it takes many season to see any new styles taking hold, after 15 seasons on FM15 more top teams were playing variations of 3-5-2.

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It can & does change in FM but it takes many season to see any new styles taking hold, after 15 seasons on FM15 more top teams were playing variations of 3-5-2.

Agree with this. No doubt formations mostly have 3 central midfielders in different ways (4-3-3, 4-5-1, 3-5-2 to name a few) but i've seen a few changes. Most notably, both Real Madrid and Barca generally play 4-4-2 with their new managers. It's working for Real Madrid who are dominating La Liga, not so well for Barca.

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Interesting, is it player material that make clubs change tactics or is it when the old managers retire and new ones take control?

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Agree with this. No doubt formations mostly have 3 central midfielders in different ways (4-3-3, 4-5-1, 3-5-2 to name a few) but i've seen a few changes. Most notably, both Real Madrid and Barca generally play 4-4-2 with their new managers. It's working for Real Madrid who are dominating La Liga, not so well for Barca.

Are you talking in FM or real life as Barca are 4 points clear of Real in real life.

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Are you talking in FM or real life as Barca are 4 points clear of Real in real life.

He is clearly talking about his save.

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I'm seeing 442 make something of a comeback at some places IRL. Leicester City for example. And everyone said 442 was "dead" not long ago. Personally, I usually like formations that pack the midfield. Using something resembling a 4-3-2-1 atm.

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He is clearly talking about his save.

I clearly asked as he didn't make that clear, jeez ask a simple question on this forum and all so quick to jump down your throat.

One thing that pees me off about this place is all the would be admins, get a few thousand post and they think it's just a forum for them. :(

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