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Challenge time - predict the results!

In a Lawro style point per result and 3 points for the correct score, have a go at these sixteen fourth round games. There'll be goals, I can promise you that... No draws remember! Pick the team, and pick the score (including penalties). Games that go to extra time will be treated as that being the final score after 90 minutes - but you have to predict correctly if penalties will be involved.

Ukraine - Bulgaria

Algeria - Ireland

Sierra Leone - Moldova

Paraguay - Montenegro

Iraq - Belarus

Wales - Cape Verde Islands

Belgium - Norway

Sweden - Germany

Argentina - USA

Netherlands - England

Brazil - Chile

Serbia - Slovenia

Congo - Georgia

Italy - Czech Republic

Spain - Ecuador

France - Burkina Faso

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Wait what

Northern Mariana Islands? Micronesia? (on the FM version I'm playing, 2012, Micronesia doesn't even exist :D)

Did either of those 2 ever reach the second round?

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Ninja Dave strikes again, this time with a challenge...

Let's go:

Ukraine 3-1 Bulgaria

Algeria 1-2 Ireland

Sierra Leone 2-1 Moldova

Paraguay 4-2 Montenegro

Iraq 5-1 Belarus

Wales 7-0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 1-2 Norway

Sweden 0-4 Germany

Argentina 3-0 USA

Netherlands 2-3 England

Brazil 4-5 Chile (you said there will be goals :D)

Serbia 6-1 Slovenia

Congo 2-3 Georgia

Italy 4-2 Czech Republic

Spain 6-2 Ecuador

France 5-0 Burkina Faso

If I get any SCORE correctly, I'll eat a paper. :p

(I just realized that we're starting some kind of pattern. Post #1 - Dave., Post #101 - me, Post #201 - Dave.)

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Right... here goes! I'm being slightly more conservative, admittedly...

Ukraine 2-1 Bulgaria

Algeria 0-2 Ireland

Sierra Leone 1-1p Moldova

Paraguay 2-0 Montenegro

Iraq p0-0 Belarus

Wales 3-1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2-1 Norway

Sweden 0-1 Germany

Argentina 1-0 USA

Netherlands 2-1 England

Brazil p1-1 Chile

Serbia 2-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-2 Georgia

Italy 3-1 Czech Republic

Spain 2-0 Ecuador

France 4-0 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 2 - 0 Bulgaria

Algeria 1 - 0 Ireland

Sierra Leone 2 - 1 Moldova

Paraguay 2 - 0 Montenegro

Iraq 1 - 1p Belarus (penalties 2 - 3)

Wales 3 - 0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2 - 0 Norway

Sweden 1 - 3 Germany

Argentina 2 - 1 USA

Netherlands 1p - 1 England (penalties 4 - 3)

Brazil 2 - 1 Chile

Serbia 1 - 0 Slovenia

Congo 1 - 3 Georgia

Italy 1 - 0 Czech Republic

Spain 1 - 2 Ecuador

France 1 - 0 Burkina Faso

There's my picks

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Ukraine p2-2 Bulgaria

Algeria 0-1 Ireland

Sierra Leone 3-1 Moldova

Paraguay 4 -1 Montenegro

Iraq 1-1p Belarus

Wales 3-2 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2-0 Norway

Sweden 1-4 Germany

Argentina 3-1 USA

Netherlands 3-3p England

Brazil p1-1 Chile

Serbia 3-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-2 Georgia

Italy 1-1p Czech Republic

Spain 0-2 Ecuador

France 3-0 Burkina Faso

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Wait what

Northern Mariana Islands? Micronesia? (on the FM version I'm playing, 2012, Micronesia doesn't even exist :D)

Did either of those 2 ever reach the second round?

Only noticed Micronesia on there the other day - after they were featured on BBC irl last year. It'd be great to see them do something.

Dave - am I right in saying Micronesia are only involved in the knockout cup and the Pacific Games? I'd love to see them in the World Cup.

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Wait what

Northern Mariana Islands? Micronesia? (on the FM version I'm playing, 2012, Micronesia doesn't even exist :D)

Did either of those 2 ever reach the second round?

Only noticed Micronesia on there the other day - after they were featured on BBC irl last year. It'd be great to see them do something.

Dave - am I right in saying Micronesia are only involved in the knockout cup and the Pacific Games? I'd love to see them in the World Cup.

Not even close - not a glimmer of a win between them. In fact they've only scored one goal between them in ten Knockout Cup ties, when Micronesia lost 5-1 to Kyrgyzstan (which is a lot better than they're capable of in real life, as Dan pointed out).

And sadly yes, they don't have full FIFA membership so can't take part in the World Cup... Shame

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Ukraine 1 - 2 Bulgaria

Algeria 1 - 1 Ireland 4-2 penalties

Sierra Leone 2 - 4 Moldova

Paraguay 2 - 1 Montenegro

Iraq 4 - 0 Belarus

Wales 5 - 1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3 - 1 Norway

Sweden 3 - 5 Germany

Argentina 4 - 1 USA

Netherlands 2 - 2 England 7-6 penalties

Brazil 1 - 3 Chile

Serbia 2 - 0 Slovenia

Congo 1 - 3 Georgia

Italy 2 - 3 Czech Republic

Spain 6 - 2 Ecuador

France 5 - 0 Burkina Fas

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Ukraine 2-1 Bulgaria

Algeria 1-4 Ireland

Sierra Leone 2-3 Moldova

Paraguay 3-1 Montenegro

Iraq 0-4 Belarus

Wales 8-0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2-1 Norway

Sweden 2-4 Germany

Argentina 3-1 USA

Netherlands 1-2 England

Brazil 4-3 Chile

Serbia 2-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-3 Georgia

Italy 1-0 Czech Republic

Spain 8-3 Ecuador

France 9-0 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 3 - 2 Bulgaria

Algeria 1 - 3 Ireland

Sierra Leone p0 - 0 Moldova

Paraguay 4 - 0 Montenegro

Iraq 1 - 2 Belarus

Wales 5 - 2 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3 - 1 Norway

Sweden 0 - 5 Germany

Argentina 2 - 2p USA

Netherlands 1 - 0 England

Brazil 4 - 2 Chile

Serbia 5 - 0 Slovenia

Congo 4 - 4p Georgia

Italy 2p - 2 Czech Republic

Spain 2 - 0 Ecuador

France 4 - 1 Burkina Faso

Also, how have Aruba/Bonaire/Curacao/Suriname been doing? Any second or third round success for them?

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Ukraine 2-3 Bulgaria

Algeria 2-3 Ireland

Sierra Leone 2-4 Moldova

Paraguay 4-1 Montenegro

Iraq 2-0 Belarus

Wales 5-1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3-1 Norway

Sweden 2-3 Germany

Argentina 3-1 USA

Netherlands 3-2 England

Brazil 4-2 Chile

Serbia 3-1Slovenia

Congo 1-3 Georgia

Italy 2-1 Czech Republic

Spain 7-2 Ecuador

France 6-1 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 1-2 Bulgaria

Algeria 1-0 Ireland

Sierra Leone 1-3 Moldova

Paraguay 2-0 Montenegro

Iraq p1-1 Belarus

Wales 3-0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3-1 Norway

Sweden 1-2 Germany

Argentina 2-1 USA

Netherlands 1-1p England (Not likely I know:p)

Brazil 2-1 Chile

Serbia 2-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-2 Georgia

Italy 3-1 Czech Republic

Spain 4-1 Ecuador

France 5-0 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 3-2 Bulgaria

Algeria 0-2 Ireland

Sierra Leone 0-2 Moldova

Paraguay 2-1 Montenegro

Iraq 1-1p Belarus penalties 2-4

Wales 4-1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3-1 Norway

Sweden 2-4 Germany

Argentina 4-0 USA

Netherlands 3-1 England

Brazil 4-1 Chile

Serbia p2-2 Slovenia penalties 6-5

Congo 1-2 Georgia

Italy 3-1 Czech Republic

Spain 5-0 Ecuador

France 3-1 Burkina Faso

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Late to the party, but that doesn't matter! Let's give it a stab.

Ukraine 3-1 Bulgaria

Algeria p1-1 Ireland

Sierra Leone 1-2 Moldova

Paraguay 3-2 Montenegro

Iraq 2-0 Belarus

Wales 3-0 Cape Verde Islands (2 scored by Bale)

Belgium 4-2 Norway

Sweden 2-5 Germany

Argentina 3-1 USA

Netherlands 1-2 England

Brazil p2-2 Chile

Serbia 3-1 Slovenia

Congo 0-3 Georgia

Italy 2-0 Czech Republic

Spain 4-2 Ecuador

France 5-1 Burkina Faso

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Not even close - not a glimmer of a win between them. In fact they've only scored one goal between them in ten Knockout Cup ties, when Micronesia lost 5-1 to Kyrgyzstan (which is a lot better than they're capable of in real life, as Dan pointed out).

And sadly yes, they don't have full FIFA membership so can't take part in the World Cup... Shame

I figured that was the case - I didn't know if you'd changed the FIFA membership at all!

For experiment purposes, if I win any more - I'm focusing on Micronesia. It's a great indicator of which varying factors have the greatest impact on the international game - who better to experiment on than the team at the bottom right?

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Ukraine p1-1 Bulgaria

Algeria 0-2 Ireland

Sierra Leone p2-2 Moldova

Paraguay 0-2 Montenegro

Iraq 3-0 Belarus

Wales 5-0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 1-0 Norway

Sweden 1-2 Germany

Argentina 2-0 USA

Netherlands 1-1p England

Brazil 2-0 Chile

Serbia 2-1 Slovenia

Congo 1-0 Georgia

Italy 2-0 Czech Republic

Spain 4-0 Ecuador

France 5-0 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 2-1 Bulgaria

Algeria p1-1 Ireland

Sierra Leone 2-0 Moldova

Paraguay 1-0 Montenegro

Iraq 3-2 Belarus

Wales 3-0 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2-0 Norway

Sweden 0-0p Germany

Argentina 4-1 USA

Netherlands 0-2 England

Brazil 1-0 Chile

Serbia 2-0 Slovenia

Congo 1-2 Georgia

Italy 2-0 Czech Republic

Spain 3-0 Ecuador

France 4-0 Burkina Faso

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Ukraine 3-0 Bulgaria

Algeria p1-1 Ireland - Algeria nipped Ireland, 7-5, in penalties

Sierra Leone 2-0 Moldova

Paraguay 4-1 Montenegro

Iraq 3-4 Belarus - Belarus win after extra time

Wales 3-1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 3-0 Norway

Sweden 1-1p Germany - Germany beat Sweden, 5-4, in penalties

Argentina 3-1 USA

Netherlands 1-1p England - England bested Holland, 5-4, in penalties

Brazil 2-1 Chile - Brazil win after extra time

Serbia 1-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-1 Georgia

Italy 2-0 Czech Republic

Spain 3-0 Ecuador

France 5-0 Burkina Faso

Any luck for any middle developed nations (Top 81-150) aside from the 32 even the Philippines? Brunei would shock any weak team I would see!:D

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Ukraine 3-0 Bulgaria

Algeria 2-2p Ireland

Sierra Leone 1-0 Moldova

Paraguay 2-1 Montenegro

Iraq p1-1 Belarus

Wales 4-1 Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 2-0 Norway

Sweden 1-3 Germany

Argentina 5-0 USA

Netherlands 1-1p England

Brazil 3-2 Chile

Serbia 3-0 Slovenia

Congo 0-2 Georgia

Italy 0-0p Czech Republic

Spain 3-0 Ecuador

France 5-0 Burkina Faso

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Hope I manage to post in time:

Ukraine 2-1 Bulgaria

Algeria 2-2p Ireland Ireland penalties 3-1

Sierra Leone 3- 0Moldova

Paraguay 1 - 0Montenegro

Iraq p0- 0 Belarus Iraq 4-3 penalties

Wales 5- 1Cape Verde Islands

Belgium 0-1 Norway

Sweden 1- 3 Germany

Argentina 4-2 USA

Netherlands 0-2 England

Brazil 1-1p Chile Chile 7-6 on penalties

Serbia 3-2 Slovenia

Congo 1-0 Georgia

Italy 1-2 Czech Republic

Spain 2-2p Ecuador Ecuador 5-3 penalties

France 4- 0Burkina Faso

A shot in the dark:D

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2020 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - Fourth Round



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Massive performances from Sierra Leone and Belarus to earn their first ever ranking points - huge for their nations. Ireland and Paraguay also guarantee their first ranking points with their wins, while the likes of England, Brazil and Germany win ties which could have proved very tricky for them.

In terms of the challenge - the results are as follows:

Cardiovascular - 20 points (14/16, Algeria-Ireland, Sweden-Germany, Spain-Ecuador)

sherwinriga - 19 points (15/16, Belgium-Norway, Spain-Ecuador)

grianaig - 19 points (13/16, Ukraine-Bulgaria, Paraguay-Montenegro, Sweden-Germany)

schubat - 16 points (14/16, Argentina-USA)

@brenosantos - 16 points (14/16, Spain-Ecuador)

swooperproop - 15 points (13/16, Congo-Georgia)

levigu - 15 points (13/16, Paraguay-Montenegro)

David Corperial - 15 points (15/16)

Taunton - 14 points (10/16, Algeria-Ireland, Sweden-Germany)

Jakarooney - 14 points (12/16, Paraguay-Montenegro)

SuperDan! - 14 points (14/16)

dynaboyj - 14 points (14/16)

fiz - 13 points (11/16, Algeria-Ireland)

SoSolidSnake - 13 points (13/16)

thomas_e - 13 points (13/16)

jtiessen - 12 points (12/16)

So Cardiovascular - please let me know the position, nationality and starting club that you wish the customary WKC youth superstar to have.

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Excellent! I'm torn between giving Myanmar someone following their 2019 Asian Cup success or continuing the Georgia rival... but I think I'm going to go with the former and give Myanmar a central midfielder who plays for Yadarnarbon.

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Also, how have Aruba/Bonaire/Curacao/Suriname been doing? Any second or third round success for them?

Aruba - reached the second round for the first time in 2020, after a 3-1 first round win in Tahiti.

Bonaire - also reached the second round once, in 2019, after beating Kiribati 2-1.

Curacao - definitely the most successful Dutch-Caribbean side, reaching the second round three times, but losing to Italy (twice) and the Netherlands themselves.

Suriname - second round in 2017 after a win against Réunion.

Sint Maarten (for good measure) - also made it to the second round once in 2017 after beating Gibraltar.

I figured that was the case - I didn't know if you'd changed the FIFA membership at all!

For experiment purposes, if I win any more - I'm focusing on Micronesia. It's a great indicator of which varying factors have the greatest impact on the international game - who better to experiment on than the team at the bottom right?

Couldn't agree more!

Any luck for any middle developed nations (Top 81-150) aside from the 32 even the Philippines? Brunei would shock any weak team I would see!:D

The likes of Curacao, Lithuania and Myanmar (among others) have all done well in either the WKC or in qualifying for their continental tournaments.

Excellent! I'm torn between giving Myanmar someone following their 2019 Asian Cup success or continuing the Georgia rival... but I think I'm going to go with the former and give Myanmar a central midfielder who plays for Yadarnarbon.

Done! Their success has instantly inspired the youth (well, this one at least):

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2020 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - Fifth Round



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Germany put out the champions, while Spain dispatched England convincingly. The dream run is over for Belarus and Sierra Leone, but it continues for Paraguay as they head into the quarter final.

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2020 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - Quarter Final



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Big win for France on penalties against the Brazilians - they've still not lost a game in this tournament over 90 minutes. Belgium won in Buenos Aires to leave Argentina trophy-less for yet another season. Paraguay stunned Germany in a fantastic game, and have earned a semi-final match with Spain, who coolly dispatched Ukraine to keep their bid for their first honours since 2012 alive.

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2020 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - Semi Final



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Well, France hadn't lost a game over 90 minutes until now, being bettered by Belgium. Paraguay matched Spain all the way, and although they ultimately lost on penalties, can be very proud of their campaign.

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2020 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - Final



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What a game! Belgium took an early lead through talismanic striker Romelu Lukaku. However, from that moment on, Spain were dominant - led by man-of-the-match Juan Mata, they raced away from Belgium to finally win the title their star-studded line-up deserved.

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Quickfire challenge: Which former Premier League midfielder and children's author (and with an A* in GCSE Latin) is the oldest active player, who will be 42 when his current contract expires?

(I'm never sure if I make this guesses too easy or too hard with the clues I provide...)

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In the meantime, while you stew over that, Ed Miliband appears to have come through West Brom's youth system:

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Well I know Frank Lampard has written childrens book, but is he the world's oldest active player? He's 37 I think, surely NYCFC didn't give him a 5 year contract?

That's my best guess anyway.

Edit: Damn looks like I was beaten to it. Unless we're both wrong haha.

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Frank Lampard?
Well I know Frank Lampard has written childrens book, but is he the world's oldest active player? He's 37 I think, surely NYCFC didn't give him a 5 year contract?

That's my best guess anyway.

Edit: Damn looks like I was beaten to it. Unless we're both wrong haha.

Yep - both right! Look at those pace and acceleration stats... I reckon Mertesacker could outsprint him.

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But thomas_e was of course first to get the guess in, so earns the reward.

Which is to improve the player generation ability of any nation you see fit. The statistics that may be improved are show below:

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Any three of these may be increased (or in the case of "Controversy", decreased) by a single level (ie. from "below average" to "average"). If "Youth Rating" is chosen, a 25 point increase may be bestowed. In addition, all teams in that nation's top league will get a 500 point boost in reputation.

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Is it correct that I can choose an increase in "Youth Rating" as well as two other statistics? If so, I will choose to increase the "Youth Rating" of Norway. I would also like to increase "Adaptability" and decrease "Controversy". Cheers!

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Is it correct that I can choose an increase in "Youth Rating" as well as two other statistics? If so, I will choose to increase the "Youth Rating" of Norway. I would also like to increase "Adaptability" and decrease "Controversy". Cheers!

Yep, that's it! Done.

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I need to be quicker off the mark when I finish work!

Loving that Ed Miliband lookalike - shame he's opted for England rather than his second nationality!

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I need to be quicker off the mark when I finish work!

Loving that Ed Miliband lookalike - shame he's opted for England rather than his second nationality!

Fortunately I'm back at work from Thursday so updates will probably be at more appropriate times for you!

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2020 OCEANIA NATIONS CUP



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American Samoa qualified for the second round for the first time in their history after winning the qualifying group, but were outclassed. Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu made the most of an easier group to make the semi finals, but it was the same old story in the final with New Zealand seeing off Solomon Islands.

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2020 EUROPEAN FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP



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Tough for Georgia and Scotland, who missed out on the knockout stages by virtue of a single goal each. There were no surprise casualties in the group stages, although Croatia will feel aggrieved to have gone home early. France and England were shocked in the second round, while Denmark had a brilliant run, with two penalties victories and a thumping win over the Czech Republic, themselves on a good run. However, Italy proved too strong in the final, absolutely rolling Denmark over.

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ADDITIONAL INTERNATIONAL ROUND-UP



Africa

African Championship of Nations (Domestic players only)

2020 - Senegal 3-0 Morocco

Asia

WAFF Championship (West Asia)

2020 - Saudi Arabia 4-0 Lebanon

AFF Championship (Southeast Asia)

2020 - Malaysia 2-2 Singapore - awaiting second leg

North America

Caribbean Championship

2020 - Jamaica 3-0 St Kitts & Nevis

Central American Nations Cup

2020 - Honduras 3-1 Panama

Olympic Games

2020 - Portugal p2-2 Spain

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2020 OCEANIA NATIONS CUP



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American Samoa qualified for the second round for the first time in their history after winning the qualifying group, but were outclassed. Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu made the most of an easier group to make the semi finals, but it was the same old story in the final with New Zealand seeing off Solomon Islands.

Really good to see Solomon Islands in the final - has the extra youth rating made much of a difference at all? The only lost to NZ twice and won the rest so that's optimistic.

Great to see Georgia getting better!

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Really good to see Solomon Islands in the final - has the extra youth rating made much of a difference at all? The only lost to NZ twice and won the rest so that's optimistic.

Great to see Georgia getting better!

I guess it's hard to say so far as they've not actually produced any youngsters since who are in the national team. But I expect it bears some relevance to the quality of the "greyed-out" players, so I would think it might have done!

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PLAYERS - END OF 2020



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Messi only four caps away from the top now and he'll surely make it, still at 33 and near the peak of his powers. Michael Bradley is still going strong for the USA, but only 2 caps for Andrés Guardado, who hasn't yet retired and seems determined to earn more caps. Sneijder has retired, however.

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No more goals for Suarez or Oliech as they retire, and although Rooney is still available for England, at 35 and playing for DC United in the USA it looks unlikely. Aguero, Dzeko and Hernandez are still going well in the top 5, as Messi approaches 100. He'll do well to beat Daei though before he retires. And ominously, 28-year-old Neymar has made the list, with years left in him. Expect him to go all the way to the top.

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Neuer has dropped off now too, with fellow German Felix Passlack taking his place. Other than that, and Messi's slight CA decline, there's no real change from last year.

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Disappointingly, no youth prospects this year worthy of the list. Matthew Neal re-makes the list after Guimaraes hits 22.

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A couple of big transfers here - Kvarthskhava moves again, only staying in Moscow for a year before moving onto Juventus. Surely he's destined to be the world's best player before long (although excluded from the main list as a CSE-created player). Andrea Niccolai moves domestically, to Juve's rivals Torino, so that could be fun to watch. Lexton Olivar has finally made a CA improvement as he seems happier at his new club, while there are no major changes other than CA boosts for other players.

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Neil Carr surges onto the list in the only real change from last year. He's also moved to Roma from LA Galaxy - Serie A soaking up all the good youngsters. Ferati also moves from Stuttgart to Wolfsburg on a free.

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A few new faces on the list; potential pick of the bunch being Canadian-Italian Riccardo Orlando (although he could later be excluded if he decides to play for Italy). Greek star Georgamilis is another mover to Juventus, while Montpellier snap up Julius Chukwudi on a free transfer.

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Oh, and Frank Lampard has signed a new one year contract with New York City. He'll be 43 and a half by the time that expires, and hasn't made any announcements regarding retirement just yet.

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Despite having one of the world's best players Georgia has not seen much success. Guess one player is not enough to carry a whole team.

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In the meantime, while you stew over that, Ed Miliband appears to have come through West Brom's youth system:

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Haha! didn't see this at first. Great stuff!

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2021 WORLD KNOCKOUT CUP - First Round



Biggest Win

Burkina Faso 9-0 Turks & Caicos Islands

Top Scorers

Bertrand Traoré (Burkina Faso), Pape Sané (Senegal), Vincent Aboubakar (Cameroon) - 4

Keep Ball

87% possession (Spain 5-0 US Virgin Islands)

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