ddidiodion Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Kane is a gamble, but a top striker would bring us closer to the title than a top defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 huge gamble and stupid money for a guy who has literally one season under his belt, as good as it was. i'm a bit undecided cos i'm not sure how good he really is... so i'm leaning towards AVOID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Didn't we gamble on Rooney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 yeah but rooney was a clear-cut exceptional talent with two full seasons behind him at the top level as a 16/17 or so year old. he was also a senior international at this time. kane's had a bunch of mediocre lower league loan spells and one full legit season at spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Yeah Rooney had just beasted the Euros when we signed him, and was clearly much more than just a finisher. Kane's in the Marcus Stewart/James Beattie/Andy Johnson bracket until he shows last season wasn't a one off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 People are taking about money as if it was their own money LOL. I don't really care about price, it is all about who we sign for me. If we get Kane, I'll be happy (as well as a defender obviously) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 well i don't care about the money i just want that money to be spent wisely and on someone of highest level/quality. i'm not convinced kane is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 People are taking about money as if it was their own money LOL. I don't really care about price, it is all about who we sign for me. If we get Kane, I'll be happy (as well as a defender obviously) Well where do you think the money comes from lol? That aside, the price tag of a player can inhibit the player, the manager and future/alternative transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Agree tbh, but more likely we'll ask ourselves why we let such a great player leave after just one season. Sadly, this. But it didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 People are taking about money as if it was their own money LOL. I don't really care about price, it is all about who we sign for me. If we get Kane, I'll be happy (as well as a defender obviously) So you do not care about the club in the long term, just the present. People care about price because the money has to come from somewhere and if we spend stupidly, then you will need a new club to follow with your comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Di Maria and Falcao come to Manchester United and leave without making so much as a ripple. The worst thing is quite a few people on here sort of predicted it when we signed them, it is like they were destined not to work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 So you do not care about the club in the long term, just the present. People care about price because the money has to come from somewhere and if we spend stupidly, then you will need a new club to follow with your comments It's the troll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 £40m is a very high price for Kane, I'm fairly sure he has good ability but I think even with another good season behind him he won't get more expensive than that. What worries me is I've seen him a few times for England youth sides and he's looked a little bit like he cracks under pressure. But when he's comfortable he's got all the tools required to be a very good striker. Can't see us signing him. Pedro will improve us and then I think we should be a bit patient and look for the next big attacking prospect rather than ***** our money on gambles. Unless Ronaldo, Bale etc come available. United aren't interested in whether he is available, they will just keep chasing that dream anyway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So you do not care about the club in the long term, just the present. People care about price because the money has to come from somewhere and if we spend stupidly, then you will need a new club to follow with your comments I clearly are about the club long term. Not willing to pay an extra few million for Hazard worked out well, eh? Not willing to even pay £25k a week for pogba worked out well? We are talking about small money with huge gains. Pay £35m or £40m doesn't matter too much as long we get the player. Missing out on CL, that costs the club huge in money and reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I clearly are about the club long term. Not willing to pay an extra few million for Hazard worked out well, eh? Not willing to even pay £25k a week for pogba worked out well?We are talking about small money with huge gains. Pay £35m or £40m doesn't matter too much as long we get the player. Missing out on CL, that costs the club huge in money and reputation. We paid big for Di Maria and Falcao. That worked out great......Fellaini? Troll or not, a human brain must exist behind your antics. At some point you must want to discuss something a bit logically while parking your internet persona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Unnecessarily overpaying and needing to pay a few extra million is completely different. Fellaini had a release clause of £23m but we missed the deadline and paid an extra £4.5m. Not willing to pay an extra £5m for Hazard, now that was necessary. Falcao we all know was a gamble. We overpaid for Di Maria. But these two signings are not as close to being as bad as what we lost in Hazard and Pogba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 We have overpaid a bit for Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger this season. We overpaid for Shaw and Herrera, however I think we'd all rather have these 4 players than have the money in the bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Scweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Herrera, Pogba and Hazard were all cheaper than Kane with bigger upsides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 No DDG tomorrow. LVG said that he can't play him whilst there's a chance of him going to Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Oh boy. Jones-Blind with Romero will be an adventure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Bloody hell. Can we just get rid of him and put this to bed already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I rate Romero above cillessen. I'd say give Romero a chance as Johnstone has had no experience yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Great draw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Your lot have Club Brugge in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Club Bruges then, you should get past them fairly easily I'd have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Neville Neville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 No DDG tomorrow. LVG said that he can't play him whilst there's a chance of him going to Madrid. WTF? That's demented! Good thing SAF didn't have some qualms or I guess Ronaldo would have sat on a bench in his last season here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 WTF? That's demented! Good thing SAF didn't have some qualms or I guess Ronaldo would have sat on a bench in his last season here. Yes but we were always going to get a fee for ronaldo, we get nothing for de gea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Neville Neville Read yesterday he had a heart attack. Terrible news that he didn't survive it. Not old either. RIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Yes but we were always going to get a fee for ronaldo, we get nothing for de gea. My God. He actually bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 De gea has not even handed in a transfer request. Madrid haven't made any offer. If he really wants to go, hand in a ****ing request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Draw went favourably. Anyone know what date the home game is? UCL twitter page says 18/19th, anyone know exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I would imagine the TV companies will decide that in the coming days. EDIT: Tuesday 18th and Wednesday 26th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Word is LvG will go with Johnstone as Romero is short of minutes. Hope he does well if so, big fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 If Johnstone's performances mean that we don't have to buy a new keeper than I will be very happy. I have a feeling De Gea has stuck a deal with Madrid to be signed on a free contract at the end of the season. This way it saves Madrid a lot of money and he gets a big signing on fee. Otherwise there would be no reason to not hand in a transfer request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 De gea has not even handed in a transfer request. Madrid haven't made any offer. If he really wants to go, hand in a ****ing request. But he misses out on his money if he does that /o\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 De Gea is treating the club pretty badly. It would be much better if he went AWOL like Di Maria. At least Di Maria didn't care about money, took the fines and forced a move through and united can move on and find a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I hear Ramos hasn't signed a new contract yet so it might be to do with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 If LvG is honest there, then I don't agree with it at all. If De Gea is fine with playing the game, we should play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Seems really odd from the outside, unless his head is all over the place (typically when a move is way further down the line than this) there's no reason not to play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 What on earth? Your not actually suggesting a player acting completely unprofessionally to force a move through is better for the club than one training properly & not kicking up a fuss at all? Edit: replying to Sid, forgot how to quote posts on my phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Edit: replying to Sid, forgot how to quote posts on my phone. It's best not to indulge him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So you would rather a player drag a transfer out in order to get extra money and confusing the club than a player just forcing through a transfer and giving the club plenty of time to find a replacement? What Di Maria did looked very bad but it is better for the club than what De Gea is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 He has to be a troll. Right? It's difficult to believe a human being can be this stupid since our transition from sea or cave life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 He has to be a troll. Right? It's difficult to believe a human being can be this stupid since our transition from sea or cave life. Most United fans want this De Gea transfer saga to be sorted one way or another. De Gea is the one not allowing this to happen by not signing contract nor handing in a transfer request. Di Maria is a **** but at least he made it easy for the club to sort out and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Sid, other than ri916 you are without a doubt the thickest poster on these forums, which is some going. If you're just a troll playing a part then that is just as high a level of sadness. In summary, you are either incredibly thick or pathetically sad. I'm going for a strong mixture of both. Anyway, not a bad draw at all in the CL. Probably the best draw we could have hoped for, except maybe for Rapid Wien. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Word is LvG will go with Johnstone as Romero is short of minutes. Hope he does well if so, big fan. I was hoping that would happen. Would love to see Johnstone stake a claim to remain with the first team and get some minutes in the Prem rather than go out on loan again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So if you don't enjoy De Gea's transfer saga you are troll? I know he is a great keeper but how any united fan can enjoy our keeper situation is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 He's well within his rights to run his contract down if he wants (see Milner last year). As long as he gives his all while he's contracted you shouldn't blame him Not ideal, but it's the club's problem (which they need to resolve by selling or accepting he may leave on a free) not his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So you would rather a player drag a transfer out in order to get extra money and confusing the club than a player just forcing through a transfer and giving the club plenty of time to find a replacement?What Di Maria did looked very bad but it is better for the club than what De Gea is doing. De Gea isn't the one dragging it out though. It's between the two clubs to sort a deal, and we appear to be playing hard ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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