Sid1984 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Just singing Pedro is definately not enough. We need a CB and another forward player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Don't think it's possible to be the best winger in the world while being an abject coward tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Ajax out of Europe, which means Cillessen is not cup-tied. Let battle commence! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How very exciting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Valencia is here because he's always available. Handy quality for a backup, despite how ****ing awful he is at rightback. That's the issue though. He's not a backup & hasn't ever been at United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 why are we suddenly getting linked with pepe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dart landed on him and the churnalist ran with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 At least when we confirm Di Maria has gone that may offset it a little, horrible, unprofessional little **** that he is. I find stuff like this a bit embarrassing really. Scholes refused to play for us in a League Cup game against Arsenal back in 2001, and Rojo went on strike to force through a move to us last year. Can't turn around and moan when a player behaves a bit poorly considering what we have, perhaps reluctantly, accepted before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 We can't moan about people diving against us, our players dive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 We can't moan about people diving against us, our players dive Basically, yeah. Can't complain about others when you're happy for your own to do it. Unless you're just a massive hypocrite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Maybe sebsy wasn't happy with Scholes and Rojo? And Young. Rooney. etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Basically, yeah. Can't complain about others when you're happy for your own to do it. Unless you're just a massive hypocrite. Any of us stated they were happy with what Rojo did? Quotes please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Any of us stated they were happy with what Rojo did? Quotes please I said accepted in the original post, not happy. Bit of a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 We can't moan about people diving against us, our players dive Diving, cheating and refereeing mistakes are encouraged by FIFA. Otherwise video replays would have been introduced a long time ago. They want talking point after the matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I said accepted in the original post, not happy. Bit of a difference. I for one had no idea, nor do I particularly care. It's a bit ridiculous to claim you have to be up in arms about how we signed a player to be miffed at how Di Maria left though, not that I'm surprised... Diving, cheating and refereeing mistakes are encouraged by FIFA. Otherwise video replays would have been introduced a long time ago.They want talking point after the matches. Irrelevant to the point being made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Well there is no point in moaning about diving, it has been made part of the game. It'll be like moaning about kicking the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Again, not the point being made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yes I know. The point being made is to not be like Steven Gerard and complain about others diving when you are the worst diver yourself. However my point is that no point blaming them for diving as they are encouraged to do so. It's like you won't blame someone for scoring a goal as it is encouraged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's the issue though. He's not a backup & hasn't ever been at United. Well I'm pretty sure we didn't spend £14m on a rightback and sold another to still have Antonio Valencia has rightback, we we might both get our wish next season. What he has been is irrelevant as long as he isn't come saturday. And Tom ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yes I know. The point being made is to not be like Steven Gerard and complain about others diving when you are the worst diver yourself.However my point is that no point blaming them for diving as they are encouraged to do so. It's like you won't blame someone for scoring a goal as it is encouraged. A point that's wholly irrelevant. I'd also say not quite right either but I don't really care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Well I'm pretty sure we didn't spend £14m on a rightback and sold another to still have Antonio Valencia has rightback. What he has been is irrelevant. Then why a few weeks ago while on tour did LVG say Darmian is the back up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Then why a few weeks ago while on tour did LVG say Darmian is the back up? He said we needed two players for every position and that Darmian is the second, because McNair is not a right back. Considering how much he has played so far, he's likely to start and if he takes his pre season start in, it will be hard for Valencia to dislodge him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Then why a few weeks ago while on tour did LVG say Darmian is the back up? Because managers sometimes say things that aren't true to motivate players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Because managers sometimes say things that aren't true to motivate players. Pretty sure those things absolutely shatter player motivation. I've learned that much from FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 He said we needed two players for every position and that Darmian is the second, because McNair is not a right back. Considering how much he has played so far, he's likely to start and if he takes his pre season start in, it will be hard for Valencia to dislodge him. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Sunderland Echo seem pretty confident that Januzaj is signing for Sunderland on loan. I would assume that it depends on your Pedro pursuit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I find stuff like this a bit embarrassing really.Scholes refused to play for us in a League Cup game against Arsenal back in 2001, and Rojo went on strike to force through a move to us last year. Can't turn around and moan when a player behaves a bit poorly considering what we have, perhaps reluctantly, accepted before. I didn't realise I had said I had accepted something similar being done before by numerous players? I am talking about the Di Maria situation, and didn't know I had to then justify my comment by commenting on every other player who has ever done something similar? Fwiw I don't like Rooney at all for twice dicking around to get himself a much better, and thoroughly undeserved better contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Then why a few weeks ago while on tour did LVG say Darmian is the back up? He said he was brought in as second position behind Valencia. I don't think he meant as backup, but rather to have 2 people in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Been at home watching premier league years on sky. What a great season 02/03 was, brings back great memories. RVN was devastating. Wish we could have someone like him nowadays. Don't know why the fuss about arsenal 03/04. Decent side, nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Spiral Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Don't know why the fuss about arsenal 03/04. Decent side, nothing special. yeah I wonder why there is a fuss about that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 He said he was brought in as second position behind Valencia. I don't think he meant as backup, but rather to have 2 people in that position. Or maybe he meant Valencia is going back in to a winger position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Sid really is mental isn't he this is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 arsenal 03/04 were no better than united 02/03 or Chelsea 04/05. Similar level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 arsenal 03/04 were no better than united 02/03 or Chelsea 04/05. Similar level. You are brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm assuming that's the invincibles team? *chortle* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Never said they weren't good, they were good. They just weren't of the standard like say United of 99 or 08 or Barca of 09 or 11. It's just the arsenal fan pundits on sky (merson, henry, Nicholas) go on about them as if they were of that standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah it's all an Arsenal pundit agenda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Did that Arsenal team have to do it on a wet night in Stoke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Even worse, Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 this was the arsenal side with Pires, that dived in the box to salvage a point at the best team in the south coast? (portsmouth) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 this was the arsenal side with Pires, that dived in the box to salvage a point at the best team in the south coast? (portsmouth) Can't knock him for that, he had to do it to maintain unbeaten record. However this so called amazing team only won 1 trophy that year. It's not like they won a PL/CL double or the treble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Combined with Sid's lunacy in OTF, is he 'related' to the alias chump that got banned a while ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 They also got 90 points ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 lower than Chelsea in both 2005 and 2006. Lower than united in 2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah exactly, and those were great sides. Same with our 2009 side. You don't get 90 points in the league without being a great team ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah exactly, and those were great sides. Same with our 2009 side. You don't get 90 points in the league without being a great team ffs They were very good but a level below the 99 and 08 united sides. Never denied they were a good side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 They were very good but a level below the 99 and 08 united sides. Never denied they were a good side. So being slightly worse than the two greatest sides in the Premier League is just "very good" is it? Give over you clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 So being slightly worse than the two greatest sides in the Premier League is just "very good" is it? Give over you clown. No they were much worse. They were slightly worse than the Chelsea of 2005 an 2006 as well has united in 2001. However they are talked about as if they were the best which is a bit silly even for the biased arsenal panel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Anyway, onto a different flavour of insanity. Gizzy will be getting very excited, rumours we've bid £40m for Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 No they were much worse. They were slightly worse than the Chelsea of 2005 an 2006 as well has united in 2001. However they are talked about as if they were the best which is a bit silly even for the biased arsenal panel. Arf, you're incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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