Rio_V Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 How anyone can say Schneiderlin is average is beyond me. Remember when Lovren looked a world beater at Southampton & he now looks like a train wreck at Liverpool? Almost like he's missing a certain someone who used to be there breaking up play & protecting him. Agree but we haven't seen that player yet as he is still bedding in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Varela gets registered but not Valdes? Does that mean in any sort of way that Van Gaal might actually rate him? Or turns out he hasnt made amends with Valdes? Imagine Johnstone being HG also played a part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Imagine Johnstone being HG also played a part I know that bit. But Valdes and Varela aren't so it could have gone for either? 4 GKs does sound a bit much though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 That is an absolutely shocking set of defenders for a Champions League club. It's not really that bad, Shaw/Smalling/Darmian and a proper 2nd CB is good(I'd pick Rojo, I guess), though depth is weak as **** there. Probably did miss picking up one more proper quality CB this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I know that bit. But Valdes and Varela aren't so it could have gone for either? 4 GKs does sound a bit much though Having 4 keepers is overkill and the 3rd keeper being HG is pretty common. Unlikely to be used ever so it could just be a youngster. Chelsea have Jamal Blackman for the same purposes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Pretty sure you can only register 3 GK anyway, can't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It's not really that bad, Shaw/Smalling/Darmian and a proper 2nd CB is good(I'd pick Rojo, I guess), though depth is weak as **** there. Probably did miss picking up one more proper quality CB this summer. Not that bad? Compare it to: Man City: Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov, Kompany, Mangala, Demichelis, Otamendi Real Madrid: Varane, Ramos, Pepe, Carvajal, Danilo, Arbeloa, Nacho, Marcelo and Abner. Chelsea: Branislav Ivanovic, Kurt Zouma, Baba Rahman, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Cesar Azpilicueta Bayern: Medhi Benatia, Rafinha, Jan Kirchhoff, Jérôme Boateng, Juan Bernat, Philipp Lahm, David Alaba, Holger Badstube and it really is quite bad. Only two of them have Champions League experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 No wonder Chelsea are ****ing up. That's as bad as ours. If not worse. "He loves staying in and being with his family. It doesn't look like he'll be raising hell once he moves to Manchester."He told France Football magazine: "After training, I like to come home and find my wife. I am very homely." He's not seen how easy girls are here with footballers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The rumoured clauses (take with a pinch of salt of course). € 30 million up front, followed by four payments of € 5 million each year in July. €5 million each time Martial is the top scorer in the Premier League, to a maximum of € 15 million. Another € 5 million will be due if Martial wins Golden Boy. The final € 10m will be paid if Martial won the Balon D'or career in Manchester. No where near as bad as it first sounds (if true), basically if he turns into the best player in the world, then we pay a fee more worthy of the best player in the world. Apparently in France the Clauses are a bit different 10m € for scoring 25 goals in all competitions (not in one season obviously) 10m € for reaching 25 caps for France (before June 19) 10m € for the Ballon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 the best part of it might be that jorge mendes was actually in no way involved with the transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Wilson just scored a tap-in for England U21 against USA U23. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 the best part of it might be that jorge mendes was actually in no way involved with the transfer This is excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Not that bad? Compare it to:Man City: Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov, Kompany, Mangala, Demichelis, Otamendi Real Madrid: Varane, Ramos, Pepe, Carvajal, Danilo, Arbeloa, Nacho, Marcelo and Abner. Chelsea: Branislav Ivanovic, Kurt Zouma, Baba Rahman, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Cesar Azpilicueta Bayern: Medhi Benatia, Rafinha, Jan Kirchhoff, Jérôme Boateng, Juan Bernat, Philipp Lahm, David Alaba, Holger Badstube and it really is quite bad. Only two of them have Champions League experience. Fair except Chelsea. The names may look better, but the display has been anything but stellar for them. No better than us to this point. As for the others, well...we had all summer to sign Otamendi. And, we still need a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I've read Danny Welbeck fears his career might be over with this knee injury, hope its not the case but wish we had never sold him. He offered us exactly what we have been missing, I think if he had kept the momentum he had gained under Moyes then he would have done better than he has at Arsenal. One of my favourite players. I was heartbroken when I heard about his knee. Arsenal is only club with worse physios than ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Is this real, I thought LvG would be way ahead by now..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Not likely, we only got 5 points from our last 6 games of last the season. And what we're missing is goals, Welbeck would have been slaughtered by our fans in the current team. I'd still much rather have had him in the squad than not, but we'd still need to buy a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Hoping and praying that this Martial kid works out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCCG Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is this real, I thought LvG would be way ahead by now..... van Gaal worse than we expected or Moyes better than we thought? Crude averaging can mask important data though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 van Gaal worse than we expected or Moyes better than we thought?Crude averaging can mask important data though. Little of each. LvG underwhelming, Moyes a tad better than given credit for. LvG got away with far more, especially early on, off the back of reputation, and "we'll he's fixing what Moyes done". There were plenty of fans(and seemingly players) on Moyes back from the off. That said, in the end Moyes just wasn't good enough, and didn't have the aggressive/arrogant personality needed to lead a club at this level. LvG needs to improve though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What is your starting back 4 with everyone fit now? And how does it differ from what you think it should be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What is your starting back 4 with everyone fit now? And how does it differ from what you think it should be? Shaw---Blind---Smalling---Darmian, so far. Though Jones is injured and Rojo is something(unfit, I think), I reckon he'll stick with Blind. I'd personally prefer Rojo in there instead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What that LVG vs Moyes table doesn't show you is that we were embarrassed against City, Chelsea and Liverpool under Moyes. The most important stat is LVG 4th - Moyes 7th. Nothing else matters. Moyes wouldn't have finishd 4th last season. And Moyes has nothing to do with if LVG is underperformiong this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hate to burst your anti-Moyes bubble but The points total Moyes got was good enough for fourth last year. That's ignoring LvG being allowed to spend the GDP of a small African country. Oh, we wouldn't have had the DdG saga either & would have had a better chance of keeping AdM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Moyes wouldn't have got enough points to get forth last year. he was getting worse, not better. And ADM wouldn't have signed in the first place. Don't see what DDG has to do it anything, unless you believe LVG actually pulled a contract offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hate to burst your anti-Moyes bubble but The points total Moyes got was good enough for fourth last year. That's ignoring LvG being allowed to spend the GDP of a small African country. Oh, we wouldn't have had the DdG saga either & would have had a better chance of keeping AdM. I'm not particularly pro-LvG or anti-Moyes but that's completely and utterly irrelevant unless Moyes was actually managing the team last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Shaw---Blind---Smalling---Darmian, so far.Though Jones is injured and Rojo is something(unfit /the lastest in the manager's disliked bin, I think), I reckon he'll stick with Blind. I'd personally prefer Rojo in there instead of him. ten ten ten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Carrick has pulled out of the England squad because he's picked up an injury. Great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 blind's done alright but our best defence is easily: shaw - rojo - smalling - darmian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What's the Rojo though? I don't think he is injured. Is he not match-fit? Or has he just fallen out of favour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ten ten ten Very likely. Sigh.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Rojo isn't match fit, rumours of a falling out with LvG. He should be partnering Smalling though so hopefully he gets back in the picture soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Very likely.Sigh.... Probably this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is there anyone LvG has not fallen out with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is there anyone LvG has not fallen out with? I think Spop is the only name on that list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is there anyone LvG has not fallen out with? Valencia, Young Then again they're both subs now so maybe not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Wilson apparently going on loan to a Championship club, surely we could have found a Premier League club for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Not one where he would be a consistent starter. Besides, he's not ready to play every week at that level, a spell in the Championship (and hopefully plenty of goals) will do him the world of good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pago Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 That leaves us with how many strikers?! 1 or 2?! 3 with Fellaini I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wilson apparently going on loan to a Championship club, surely we could have found a Premier League club for him? If goes to Derby I will not understand that. He will not be a guaranteed starter as they already have Martin who is their no.1 and Bent who is rotation/back up. Wilson needs to go to a team where he will start every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 No talk in here of LVG confirming Giggs will take over from him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Going to ignore that completely until the time comes, to be quite honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Probably means on an interim basis when he leaves before the end of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 That is a decision made by people above LvG that he is relaying, surely. I can't imagine that kind of decision has been made already either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hopefully it is true that the players are turning on him in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Absolutely astounding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hopefully they'll all hand in transfer requests, and go on strike too, because that is the professional thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 No talk in here of LVG confirming Giggs will take over from him? "Confirming"? That's not LVG's decision, and no decision will be made until LVG leaves. Maybe it will be Giggs, maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I don't really want Giggs as manager, not yet anyway. We need a top class manager that's going to win things after LvG leaves. Guardiola is the man, if he goes City we'll get left behind. We might as well try to get him in, let him stay for a few years and win things whilst Giggs manages another club, then we hire him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I imagine you will hire another experienced European campaigner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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