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Of course he wants to join us, his agent has touted his wages around and no one is biting so he makes bedroom eyes at the team that is desperate for any world class player that seems within reach.

He is better than what we have and better than any we have ever had in that position in the premier league years but....signing him means we put off getting a decent long term striker for another summer and it looks like a few could be available.

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Bumped in to Blind and Lingard a few hours ago, they weren't in a good mood.

That's actually good to hear. They shouldn't be jolly after a loss like that.

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Anybody know how James Wilson has played lately? I see he has lost the starting spot, but usually get subbed on in the 2nd half. Has scored a few, but not a great deal.

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Of course he wants to join us, his agent has touted his wages around and no one is biting so he makes bedroom eyes at the team that is desperate for any world class player that seems within reach.

He is better than what we have and better than any we have ever had in that position in the premier league years but....signing him means we put off getting a decent long term striker for another summer and it looks like a few could be available.

who's available?

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I'd still pay money to buy him right now. He's the best striker in europe!

Just so we're clear - we're not having Falcao as the best striker in the world any more, right?

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That's actually good to hear. They shouldn't be jolly after a loss like that.

spot on and some papers stating there were a few players openly criticising the tactics after the game and there was an argument between management and some players, looking at the team that finished I cant see any of them having a go(they don't on the field:D)

just found that sky where I am have pulled the game v hammers(It was showing up until yesterday!!!) and when I phoned them they said they couldn't show it due to rights issues with champions league/the deal they signed stated they cant show any other live footy at same time as UCL games......so I don't know if its good or bad news I wont get to see the game live;)

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Just so we're clear - we're not having Falcao as the best striker in the world any more, right?

RSB you slay me.

You could lift some of these comments and they are like for like replicas of the Falcao ones. A couple acknowledged his injury but otherwise it was the same

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How far away from where he was supposed to be was Blind? :brock:

Sounds like a "Why did Daley Blind cross the road?" joke

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Don't start the Falcao self-congratulations without me guys!

Ibra is a different proposition altogether of course. Not sure how many players have their best season ever at 34. Unless there's a standout candidate that's available and I can't really think of one Ibra is the best option, especially as it's only a year.

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And when it's Ibra you don't even need anything near to his best season to get magic.

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Don't start the Falcao self-congratulations without me guys!

Ibra is a different proposition altogether of course. Not sure how many players have their best season ever at 34. Unless there's a standout candidate that's available and I can't really think of one Ibra is the best option, especially as it's only a year.

How old was Teddy Sheringham in 99?

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If Woodward is smart enough, he'll sack Van Gaal and sign Ibra up immediately. I don't even care if we get Ibra or not, as long as Van Gaal gets sacked, I'm fine.

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I though Ibra wasn't going to play second fiddle to Rooney? Plus we have Martial and Rasford now.

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How old was Teddy Sheringham in 99?

Dunno, but his best season for us was in 00-01 when he was about 34~

Plus we have Martial and Rasford now.

Exactly, going into the season with these 3 again is madness.

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It would be totally unacceptable to go in to next season with our forward options being Rooney, Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson, too).

When you look back at some of the groups of players we've had up top it really is just astounding that these are our options now.

Cantona, Hughes, McClair, Cole

Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer, Sheringham

Rooney, van Nistelrooy, Saha, Forlan

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov

Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney, van Persie, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney isn't close to what he was at his best, Martial is obvious quality but has a lot more to come, Rashford has done well but it is still hard to say how he will do long term. It's so far from the standards we need at the minute. Ibrahimovic, even for a season would go a long way to improving it immensely, but then the following season he's probably off again, and Rooney is another year *******.

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It would be totally unacceptable to go in to next season with our forward options being Rooney, Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson, too).

When you look back at some of the groups of players we've had up top it really is just astounding that these are our options now.

Cantona, Hughes, McClair, Cole

Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer, Sheringham

Rooney, van Nistelrooy, Saha, Forlan

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov

Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney, van Persie, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney isn't close to what he was at his best, Martial is obvious quality but has a lot more to come, Rashford has done well but it is still hard to say how he will do long term. It's so far from the standards we need at the minute. Ibrahimovic, even for a season would go a long way to improving it immensely, but then the following season he's probably off again, and Rooney is another year *******.

Although for a lot of those if not all, we had 2 or even 3 up front. Do we have any other than 1 up front with LVGs system?

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Manchester United value falls £400m during the season

Manchester United's defeat at Tottenham left them four points off a top-four place

Manchester United's value has fallen by more than £400m since the start of the season.

United's share price on the New York stock exchange was $18.37 (£12.84) when they kicked off the season with a 1-0 win against Tottenham last August.

Twenty four hours after the return fixture on Sunday, a 3-0 defeat at White Hart Lane, the share price had fallen by 25 per cent to $13.83 (£9.67).

United's poor performances on the pitch have been reflected by falls in the share price and the value of the club.

At the start of the season United's market capitalisation was £2bn. On Monday night it had fallen by £412m to £1.58bn.

Defeat at Wolfsburg in December saw United eliminated from the Champions League

Since Louis van Gaal started work as manager in the summer of 2014 almost a billion dollars has been wiped off the value of the club.

On 22 July 2015, United had a market capitalisation of £2.23bn. On Monday night it was down £650m to £1.58bn.

United's poor performance in this season's Champions League and problems qualifying for the next season's competition are having a significant impact on the share price.

Dropping out of the Champions League after losing to Wolfsburg in December caused the share price to fall by five per cent to $17.82 (£12.45). It has continued to fall as United have struggled to secure a top-four finish in the Premier League.

In February, the share price fell below the 2012 $14 (£9.78) flotation level for the first time. In the same month United announced a record quarterly profit of £18.6m.

Off the pitch, business is booming and United are on course to overtake Real Madrid as the world's richest club.

Louis van Gaal has one year still to run on his Old Trafford contract

Commercial revenues have been rising thanks to a record £750m Adidas kit deal and new partnerships with companies such as Gulf Oil and 20th Century Fox. More riches are on the way with a lucrative new Premier League broadcasting deal starting next season.

On the pitch, performances have fallen a long way below the standards set by Sir Alex Ferguson. United are four points away from a Champions League place with six games left to play this season. They also have an FA Cup quarter-final replay at West Ham United on Wednesday.

Missing out on the Champions League for the second time in three seasons will cost the club at least £50m and increase the speculation surrounding the future of Van Gaal. The manager's three-year contract runs out in the summer of 2017.

Wow. Absolutely mind blowing that we still have this idiot in charge.

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When playing 1 up front its even more vital that that one player is world class. It's why he so often played two up, even world class players have bad games and it's less likely to happen to two at the same time than 1.

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LvG system we sometimes have midfielders up front though

Or when he throws Fellaini up front, we have nobody!

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Although for a lot of those if not all, we had 2 or even 3 up front. Do we have any other than 1 up front with LVGs system?

This is my point although LvG doesn't seem to trust Martial up front anymore. Basically get LvG out and so many problems are solved.

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LVG out, sign Ibra and Kane, play two up top. Sorted.

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Although for a lot of those if not all, we had 2 or even 3 up front. Do we have any other than 1 up front with LVGs system?

No, but I would adjust slightly so two of the 4 would be capable of playing wide (so looking for a right sided one to compliment Martial, with Zlatan arriving)

LVG out too followed by Rooney with Kane in.

I'd settle for Jose and Zlatan though.

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Have to say I'm not sold on ibra just as I wasn't sold on Falcao, still think with a better system Rooney has a couple of good seasons left but I realise I'm in the minority here.

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still think with a better system Rooney has a couple of good seasons left but I realise I'm in the minority here.

Don't worry about it, most of us just don't have access to those kinds of drugs.

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No, I agree with that, although maybe he needs a strike partner. It would be nice to have two up front.

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Higuain, Ibra, Ronaldo, Benzema, Aubameyang, Morata, Vardy :brock: , Kane, Lewandowski could all be moving this summer.

Would take any of them but only 1 is certain to give us no more than 1 season. Almost all of them are out of our reach but their movements could start a merry go-round.

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Don't worry about it, most of us just don't have access to those kinds of drugs.

I bloody wish...make my life a whole lot easier!

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I like Morata but he is a great big-game player but he and Vardy are a little out of place on that list :lol:

Would certainly take any of the others mind.

The big issue with Rooney is he just physically can't do what he wants to do anymore. When he's in a good place physically he's capable of putting nice little run together but they never last long.

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How old was Teddy Sheringham in 99?

I'd hope if we have this circus for Ibra it's for more than 11 starts in all comps.

It would be totally unacceptable to go in to next season with our forward options being Rooney, Martial and Rashford (and maybe Wilson, too).

When you look back at some of the groups of players we've had up top it really is just astounding that these are our options now.

Cantona, Hughes, McClair, Cole

Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer, Sheringham

Rooney, van Nistelrooy, Saha, Forlan

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov

Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney, van Persie, Hernandez, Welbeck

Rooney isn't close to what he was at his best, Martial is obvious quality but has a lot more to come, Rashford has done well but it is still hard to say how he will do long term. It's so far from the standards we need at the minute. Ibrahimovic, even for a season would go a long way to improving it immensely, but then the following season he's probably off again, and Rooney is another year *******.

Although for a lot of those if not all, we had 2 or even 3 up front. Do we have any other than 1 up front with LVGs system?

Yeah, bit much to throw McClair in with Cole and Ronaldo/Rooney in with Saha/Berbatov - even Rooney and Welbeck in with RvP given how that ended - when they often played in different positions to get enough games. Factor in Choccy's age and Saha's injuries and from what's left you've still got a number of instances of players not feeling like they got enough games, particularly up front. Plus you should really be including the likes of Mata and Depay based on the names you've listed.

still think with a better system Rooney has a couple of good seasons left but I realise I'm in the minority here.

Hardly a stretch given he scored seven goals (plus three assists) in the eight games before his injury, in a team that's scored only 39 goals in 32 league games this season. Read somewhere that this has been the longest injury spell of his career and he's still top scorer ffs.

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Higuain, Ibra, Ronaldo, Benzema, Aubameyang, Morata, Vardy :brock: , Kane, Lewandowski could all be moving this summer.

Would take any of them but only 1 is certain to give us no more than 1 season. Almost all of them are out of our reach but their movements could start a merry go-round.

its amazing that most of them could be on the move this summer, there will be some huge transfer fees this year probably see the record go

Kane is the one I would want but he wont come to us now.....if any of them it would be Ibra/Ronnie due to the sponsors and shirt sales it would be fantastic to see CR7 back in a red shirt who knows what's going to happen as long as we don't get players in looking for a big final pay day just to appease sponsors/some fans

would rather we get some younger raw talent with one or 2 quality established players for the first team it depends on who the manager will be too, so too many variables at this stage to make any calls

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Man United move would be step down for Zlatan – Thiago Silva

this quote.. yea.. looks like a step up to me

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I must have missed it when we strolled to the league title and got to the quarter finals of the CL

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Can't exactly disagree with the statement, but it's a much stronger league at least, so he'll have real matches other than just the CL nights.

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So, how do you think we will lose today?

What a sick feeling. It's West fecking Ham, and I have no belief at all we'll beat them.

With SAF in charge you could almost put your house on a proper reaction after a loss, but now..? :(

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Massive game tonight, if we win I think we go on to win the cup. Which will most likely keep LVG in a job :(

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Tbf Pan, it is away to West Ham, which is never an easy game. At home yes I'd be extremely disappointed not to win, but away is different.

Hopefully we show some fight again. After the Tottenham game I'm starting to err more towards not being fussed if Mata were to go. But as always he could easily flourish in a better system under a different manager.

As well as Rashford has done I think it would be the smart thing to remove him from the spotlight for a bit.

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I get the feeling that we'll win tonight and save LvG his job (atleast for now).

Yeah I agree. The LvG troll bus will continue.

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It's sad when we have to say we need to produce an upset in order to knock out West Ham

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De Gea

Fosu-Mensah

Smalling

Blind

Rojo

Carrick

Fellaini

Lingard

Herrera

Martial

Rashford

Subs: Romero, Valencia, Young, Schneiderlin, Mata, Memphis, Rooney

Carrick and Fellaini ffs :D

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Why does Lingard keep starting... :/ Drop him.

He's probably the one who would always listen to LVG's ******** instructions

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Why does Lingard keep starting... :/ Drop him.

I wouldn't have an issue with that if he was playing on the right, which he hopefully will be tonight

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