Coulthard's Jaw Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Should have told Coquelin to wind his neck in and just given Xhaka 34. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not like Coquelin has any attachment to his various kit numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If he's not very good, how can he cost 20m? He must have done something right to be rated so highly. £20 million in 'new money' doesn't seem to buy you that much these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 A Guardian journo is reporting that we've met Vardy's release clause. I really don't want this to be true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Would be a really surprising/left field move from us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.O.V.I Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Yeah i don't get this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I am very intrigued by this. At least by Walcott's impersonation earlier last season there's a basis for success for such a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 No brainer for £22m. Bad if it's our only attacking signing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Would like a playmaker after this, the club should definitely sound out Gotze and Isco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 Would like a playmaker after this, the club should definitely sound out Gotze and Isco. Gotze would be the dream. I'd take a wide playmaker over a striker tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Getting both would be lovely even if the striker is Vardy. We do need the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 david ornstein @bbcsport_david 2m2 minutes agoarsenal have triggered jamie vardy release clause & in talks with leicester to sign the striker. its happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's not something I really wanted to happen. Think we'd have all preferred Mahrez or Kante if signing anyone from Leicester, but I trust the staff and scouts. Amount of work and stats they must have on Vardy to say "yep, we want him" will be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 Decided that I'm ok with it ONLY if we use the money saved on a Morata type to sign a wide playmaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark. Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Decided that I'm ok with it ONLY if we use the money saved on a Morata type to sign a wide playmaker My feelings on this too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I thought it was obvious the problem was in the centre? After Cazorla's injury we started to get worse and worse and nothing Wenger tried was helping. In many games we looked like having no midfield at all, noone to control the game, just 4-5 players forward waiting for the ball, we stopped being dangerous from counter attacks etc. Ok, maybe Cazorla's going to stay fit all season but he's not getting younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 I thought it was obvious the problem was in the centre? After Cazorla's injury we started to get worse and worse and nothing Wenger tried was helping. In many games we looked like having no midfield at all, noone to control the game, just 4-5 players forward waiting for the ball, we stopped being dangerous from counter attacks etc. Ok, maybe Cazorla's going to stay fit all season but he's not getting younger. 1) LOL at the Cazorla suggestion, our issues there were evident way before his injury 2) have you missed the Xhaka signing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 1.No they were not. I know he was moved from your 'liked' to 'hated' group for some reason, but with him in the team we had our best spell last season. Not to mention the season before. 2. I know nothing about Xhaka, from what I read here and there, his game is based on aggression and he's best at defending and not at controlling play - that would mean he is an upgrade on Coquelin and not a younger Arteta/a stronger Cazorla. But of course I would love him to be a solution - as I said I don't know the player but what was advertised wasn't exactly what I believe is needed. But since you appear to know him better - do you think he could be effective paired with Ramsey? Or Wilshere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 So we didn't get tore apart by Spurs with Cazorla in the side? We didn't consistently struggle whilst being adequately pressed with Cazorla/Coquelin? Must have imagined that then. Xhaka is not like Coquelin ffs, he's excellent on the ball. Xhaka/Ramsey seems like the best bet and probably close to the Arteta/Ramsey duo (which was the last great CM partnership we've had) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 We struggle while adequately pressed (probably just like almost any team in football) I agree of course, and yes, Cazorla's presence was not preventing this. He was helping organize the play, especially in the transition. For me the simple thing was we were able to use quick attack with him, we struggled at it when he got injured. We scored all 5 goals at Leicester from counter attacks. Of course if Xhaka is going to be so good at the ball then great, as I said I don't know him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 Cazorla played alongside Arteta in the 5-2, so not sure that backs up your assertion on how good Cazorla is at controlling the tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 But he didn't have Arteta in 3-0 vs MU. But that's not important, the thing is you indirectly agreed with my original point that there was a huge problem deep in the centre of midfield. You believe it will be addressed by Xhaka and I hope you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Guy who does Arseblog says Vardy is happening. My word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 The way this window is unfolding then next season has to be Wenger's last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Stats from the end of March: Chances created per game with Cazorla: 6.13 Chances conceded per game with Cazorla: 0.37 Chances created without Cazorla: 4.77 Chances conceded without Cazorla: 0.63 Stats from mid January: Passes: with Cazorla 542, without Cazorla 489 Completed passes: with 464, without 409 Shots: with 17, without 12 Shots allowed: with 11, without 16 Goals per game: with 1.71, without 1.86 Goals allowed: with 0.86, without 1.29 I'm not suggesting Cazorla is the best CM in the world, or even the best in the league. I'm not suggesting there weren't problems with our midfield when Cazorla was playing. But he's our best passer from central midfield, our best short-range dribbler from central midfield, and our most consistently adept player at breaking the press from central midfield. His injury completely destroyed the balance in the team last season, to my mind at any rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFootballManager Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 There is no doubt that the Cazorla injury impacted out season significantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Don't get the apprehension for Vardy in here. I actually liked the guy a couple of seasons ago before he started banging them in. He's the sort of striker up top we've been crying out for to help transform our game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Stats from the end of March:Chances created per game with Cazorla: 6.13 Chances conceded per game with Cazorla: 0.37 Chances created without Cazorla: 4.77 Chances conceded without Cazorla: 0.63 Stats from mid January: Passes: with Cazorla 542, without Cazorla 489 Completed passes: with 464, without 409 Shots: with 17, without 12 Shots allowed: with 11, without 16 Goals per game: with 1.71, without 1.86 Goals allowed: with 0.86, without 1.29 I'm not suggesting Cazorla is the best CM in the world, or even the best in the league. I'm not suggesting there weren't problems with our midfield when Cazorla was playing. But he's our best passer from central midfield, our best short-range dribbler from central midfield, and our most consistently adept player at breaking the press from central midfield. His injury completely destroyed the balance in the team last season, to my mind at any rate. That is absolutely 100% spot on. This is the biggest issue we had tactically last season. We just couldn't play out effectively in a number of games. Particularly the away game at Man Utd. They stood off our centre backs and just stopped us playing out to Ramsey and Coquelin who just couldn't beat the press, or receive under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Don't get the apprehension for Vardy in here. I actually liked the guy a couple of seasons ago before he started banging them in. He's the sort of striker up top we've been crying out for to help transform our game. Yes, considering their lack of relative success recently I can't see why Arsenal fans seem to be arrogantly turning their nose up at players like Vardy and Kante when they're mentioned. Both would improve your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Great for Leicester but not sure I can see him at Arsenal chasing balls over the top Feels like the 'missing piece of the puzzle' that won't really help solve the puzzle, a la Franny Jeffers Who knows, Sanchez and Ozil around slipping balls in here and there, maybe he'll do better than we all expect but just feels like an un-Arsenal type move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Yes, considering their lack of relative success recently I can't see why Arsenal fans seem to be arrogantly turning their nose up at players like Vardy and Kante when they're mentioned. Both would improve your team. Why is it arrogant to think a player won't be a good signing or suit your team? There are people who don't think Higuain will be a good signing either, is that arrogant too? Football fans in strong opinions on players shocker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Great for Leicester but not sure I can see him at Arsenal chasing balls over the topFeels like the 'missing piece of the puzzle' that won't really help solve the puzzle, a la Franny Jeffers Who knows, Sanchez and Ozil around slipping balls in here and there, maybe he'll do better than we all expect but just feels like an un-Arsenal type move Only a tiny percentage of his goals came from long balls over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Why is it arrogant to think a player won't be a good signing or suit your team? There are people who don't think Higuain will be a good signing either, is that arrogant too? Football fans in strong opinions on players shocker! Yes! Higuain>Giroud. Both him and Vardy are better finishers, Arsenal need someone to finish the chances they create. And imho Vardy is better than Giroud too, or as is more likely in Wenger's thinking, a more reliable version of Welbeck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 From an outside pov I cant see what Vardy will add to an Arsenal team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Yes, considering their lack of relative success recently I can't see why Arsenal fans seem to be arrogantly turning their nose up at players like Vardy and Kante when they're mentioned. Both would improve your team. In fairness I've seen plenty of non-Arsenal fans both on here and elsewhere who don't think Vardy will be a success at Arsenal either. I'm not sure myself. It's a very un-Arsenal signing but it is at the very least a sign of some kind of ambition from Wenger and co. I think at the very least he'll fill in very well for Welbeck who will miss all of this season. If he's half as good as he was last season then it will be difficult for Welbeck to get back in the side too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.O.V.I Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 We need a striker desperately and there are just not many in the market unless we want to get into a 50m+ bidding wars with bigger clubs who will pay higher wages. Our options were slim and Vardy is something we just don't have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Arseblog's article today was very good - think his point regarding Wenger looking to add more "edge" to the team was pretty close to the mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 I think Vardy might be turning us down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Only turning us down if he gets a better offer from another club, he's not staying at Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-fear-transfer-target-jamie-8127249 Yeah he's staying at Leicester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Providing we still get someone else in this could be the best move for all parties really. I don't see us giving him a better offer as he doesn't really warrant being paid near what Ozil and Alexis are on. But yeah, as long as we still get someone else in. If not, well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 Telegraph reporting that Walcott is set to stay. There's your Vardy replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 You're a step away from giving us minute by minute indykalia updates. just calm down for goodness sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 Erm, I am calm. Oh no, I'm ILL aren't I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Funny thing with Walcott is that if he'd spent all of this season injured and was just coming back like Wilshere he would've probably been on the plane. You could maybe even make the same case for Ox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Telegraph says this, Mirror says that, AFCCamdenTownLad has been told something. It's all ********, none of these tabloids/ITKs really know what's going on, the amount of info they are fed is a tiny fraction of what actually goes on behind the scenes so you are best off not trying to follow it like it's some sort of soap opera. What will be will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Erm, I am calm. Oh no, I'm ILL aren't I? Chill your beans man! Just wait and see! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Imagine if we get parred by Vardy and Liverpool sign Higuain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 City holding talks with Aubameyang whilst we're being made to sweat over a decision by Jamie Vardy.. hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 “I admire and like N’Golo Kanté a lot. It gives you ideas,” Wenger told beIN Sports. “He gives you the feeling that the higher the level he plays at, the more at ease he is. “We are talking about numbers. He has the most interceptions in Europe and by far. “He has incredible quality. He feels the game, only very few people can do that. He’s always where he needs to be. “It is very rare to have that in the central midfielder. Not always orthodox, but always in the right place.” hmmmmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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