gunner86 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I recommend giving arseblog a read today - just nice to remember despite the issues we're having. Yes, I read that earlier, quite an emotive piece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The problem with this is that it requires us to consistently be able to create those chances and play well. We don't do that. Suarez wouldn't alter that. That Liverpool team whilst it couldn't defend had an attacking structure which functioned. We don't have that. It had pressing. We don't have that. Even with all of that I don't think that Liverpool team would have won as many games again. I think to a large extent they got away with their bad defence through luck rather than just merely out-gunning the opposition repeatedly. Meh. This season the chances he created should have led to about 12 assists. He has 18. I don't quite understand this. While anyone can see that our team is very disjointed, it cannot be denied that through whatever means (chemistry from playing together, having superior players, luck, etc) we have created more chances than anyone in the league. Our attackers have been given the scoring chances to match the likes of Mahrez and Kane. How would a striker who can convert those chances, not greatly improve our points tally? Yeah we suck, but we still manage to create chances even when not playing well. If we had a Suarez or an Aguero, then we'd be scoring goals despite not playing well. That's what world-class players do. They perform in spite of the circumstances. Ozil has been creating chances despite how dysfunctional our midfield is. A better striker would be scoring goals despite how poorly the team has been playing. Just look at what RvP did, both for us and for Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I recommend giving arseblog a read today - just nice to remember despite the issues we're having. The thing is, lots of fans won't be old enough to remember a lot of those moments. Important to remember when you next see a 20 year old raging away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I don't quite understand this. While anyone can see that our team is very disjointed, it cannot be denied that through whatever means (chemistry from playing together, having superior players, luck, etc) we have created more chances than anyone in the league. Our attackers have been given the scoring chances to match the likes of Mahrez and Kane. How would a striker who can convert those chances, not greatly improve our points tally? Yeah we suck, but we still manage to create chances even when not playing well. If we had a Suarez or an Aguero, then we'd be scoring goals despite not playing well.That's what world-class players do. They perform in spite of the circumstances. Ozil has been creating chances despite how dysfunctional our midfield is. A better striker would be scoring goals despite how poorly the team has been playing. Just look at what RvP did, both for us and for Man Utd. This post is spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I recommend giving arseblog a read today - just nice to remember despite the issues we're having. Which one? The Director of the Bored ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Apparently we are lining up Kostas manolas from Roma to strengthen our defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Which one? The Director of the Bored ? "When" - the main blog for yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I don't quite understand this. While anyone can see that our team is very disjointed, it cannot be denied that through whatever means (chemistry from playing together, having superior players, luck, etc) we have created more chances than anyone in the league. Our attackers have been given the scoring chances to match the likes of Mahrez and Kane. How would a striker who can convert those chances, not greatly improve our points tally? Yeah we suck, but we still manage to create chances even when not playing well. If we had a Suarez or an Aguero, then we'd be scoring goals despite not playing well.That's what world-class players do. They perform in spite of the circumstances. Ozil has been creating chances despite how dysfunctional our midfield is. A better striker would be scoring goals despite how poorly the team has been playing. Just look at what RvP did, both for us and for Man Utd. Looking at the number of created chances is misleading because it completely fails to consider the context. 1) match situation 2) how spread out over matches they were 3) situation of the chance; amongst other things. It isn't as simple as we created lots of chances, guess we just need a better goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Apparently we are lining up Kostas manolas from Roma to strengthen our defence Go away... we need him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 "When" - the main blog for yesterday Yeah - it's obvious now I know When we went to White Hart Lane and they thought that the late penalty, annoying as it was, was enough for them to stop us winning the league but it wasn’t enough to stop us winning the league and we won the league. When even their players thought the draw was enough. When Thierry Henry remembered: “I remember Tarrico, jumping around and he got a cramp out of it. Celebrating a draw! And I looked at him and said ‘Are you kidding me?’ And he went, ‘Yeeaaaaaaah!’ jumping in front of me. “I said to him: ‘You do realise we just needed a point at your place to be champions at your place.’ And he was talking, talking, so I said ‘Watch me after the game.’ “I remember, people were saying do not celebrate. I said ‘WHAT?’ I will celebrate. And you will see how much it’s going to hurt them. “I had to celebrate. They were coming up to me, jumping around like they had won something, so I said, ‘Ok. We were not supposed to celebrate, but now I’m going to celebrate with my fans!” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crplz Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Barney Ronay @barneyronay 1h1 hour ago You could argue in one way this is Arsene Wenger's greatest, crowning season. Of the 'Big Four' 2004-09 only Arsenal now remain. He wins! Barney Ronay @barneyronay 1h1 hour ago I'm other words Arsenal are on course to finish above every other title winning club of the last 55 years. And still they're not happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 This side minus Giroud is so obviously our best 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Agreed. Hopefully this performance means that Wenger finally gives up on Coquelin and Gabriel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Ramsey: Most passes (105/114) Most tackles (7/8) 3/3 take-ons 2nd most chances created (2) 2nd most defensive aerial(!) duels won (3) If Wenger drops him on Sunday.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Can't make any judgements after playing against a WBA which didn't really care. Need to see this 11 perform over 5, 10, 20 games before declaring them anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Of course, but then we were terrible against another side that didn't care in Palace. I think it's entirely fair to draw comparisons between the two games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Draw comparisons, but this squad are full of show ponies and not quite good enoughs, no doubt we'll do well against Sunderland and all the tricks will come out against and everyone will style themselves on Bertie Bigbollocks, just bored of them now, bunch of chancers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Is Ramsey by any chance one of them in your view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Dropping Coq for Ramsey + Eleny particularly made sense when playing at home against sides we expect to dominate possession. Wonder where Cazorla fits in. It's also important to keep in mind that we basically won with 2 individual goals, rather than from great teamplay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Whilst that is true the team play was a lot better than what we had seen in recent months on the most part. Other than the final parts of it. It is going to be disappointing when Ramsey or Elneny is dropped for Coquelin on the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Whilst that is true the team play was a lot better than what we had seen in recent months on the most part. Other than the final parts of it. It is going to be disappointing when Ramsey or Elneny is dropped for Coquelin on the weekend. Gabriel and Coquelin are definitely coming into the side aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Is Ramsey by any chance one of them in your view? The issue I have with Ramsey is I think his operating window is far too narrow. If everything is just right he's superb at what he does, but one thing falls out of alignment and suddenly he's stinking up the joint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 He really is deluded isn't he? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36106478 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Honestly think Wenger would be better tackling this head on. "I know this isn't good enough, I'm a winner, I want to be 1st more than anyone else, trust me I'm trying my hardest to sort this out" type of stuff. He seems to be almost going out of his way to inflame the fanbase with some of these comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Yes, he's basically telling the fans that our performance this season has been good when it's blatantly not the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Honestly think Wenger would be better tackling this head on. "I know this isn't good enough' date=' I'm a winner, I want to be 1st more than anyone else, trust me I'm trying my hardest to sort this out" type of stuff. He seems to be almost going out of his way to inflame the fanbase with some of these comments.[/quote']Agreed. He's never been like that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 If they wanted to see quality football week in week out that badly they'd go down the road and watch Spurs play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Wenger is better at trolling Arsenal fans than Spurs fans are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Gabriel and Coquelin are definitely coming into the side aren't they? Not Gabriel but I can see Coquelin definitely. The issue I have with Ramsey is I think his operating window is far too narrow. If everything is just right he's superb at what he does' date=' but one thing falls out of alignment and suddenly he's stinking up the joint.[/quote']Not sure this is particularly fair. He does well when played on the right or at 10 and CM if he has someone who can pass next to him. When at Cm earlier this season it is often forgotten the front three was missing balance also, lacking Ramsey himself funnily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 First time since 2013 we have had the entire squad fit and training together, according to reddit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 First time since 2013 we have had the entire squad fit and training together, according to reddit Diaby was an Arsenal player in 2013 so that can't be true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 he took part in a few training sessions before getting injured im sure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Leaving Welbeck out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 Absolutely nothing to look forward to is there. This is it under Wenger. The same predictable boring football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Functional football but without any efficiency in front of goal and hapless defensive errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 That 2 second clip of Mesut shouting "**** SAAAAAAKE" at a Bellerin cross sums up our entire season more accurately than any article or rant on here could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Giroud has failed to score in 19 out of his last 20 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Our 4th place trophy is still seriously under threat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I never thought I'd say this but I think I actually want us to finish 5th. Just don't see how anything even starts to begin to change if we get top four again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 As far as continuity of manager/players is concerned I don't think it matters if we finish 4th or 14th! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't see Wenger ever stepping down on a 5th place finish tbh. Or ever really, think the board are going to have to man up and fire him to get him out the door. He'll come up with some guff about wanting the challenge of reclaiming a Champions League spot. Maybe the lack of Champions League money will jolt them into action, but then with the ridiculous amount Premier League TV money they'd probably give him another year to get back into that coveted 4th spot anyway. It's in no way a guarantee that finishing 5th changes anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.O.V.I Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 That about sums this club up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't think I can face another season of this. I just don't enjoy watching this team play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted April 24, 2016 SI Staff Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't think I can face another season of this. I just don't enjoy watching this team play. This. Same sh*t different day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just saw Walcott's non tackle. Lol, what a wuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't think I can face another season of this. I just don't enjoy watching this team play. This will be the first summer where I have absolutely no optimism and expectations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky9334 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Prob not going to renew my membership this summer, my dad is the same. I don't think us finishing 5th will result in him leaving either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't think he'll leave if we finish 5th this summer. But I feel like that at least might be the initial catalyst for change in the long term, whereas if we finish 4th it will be all good and same again next season. Rumours of a new 3 year contract which is just horrific news if true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't think he'll leave if we finish 5th this summer. But I feel like that at least might be the initial catalyst for change in the long term, whereas if we finish 4th it will be all good and same again next season. Rumours of a new 3 year contract which is just horrific news if true. The source for that was fake. He'll walk if we finish 5th, I'm convinced of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 No way I can ee you finishing outside top 4. Norwich are fighting for their lives but I still expect you to win that comfortably. Villa is an obvious win. City is the real difficult one. Only danger you have of not getting in UCL is if you finish 4th and City and Liverpool win the European comps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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