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My set piece instructions are being completely ignored!

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I have been dubious about whether set piece instructions are adhered to or not, so I spent a bit of time looking at it.

Playing as Newcastle.

Got Remy Cabella taking free kicks right footed from the left, and Ben Arfa (back at Newcastle!) taking free kicks from the right with his left.

I designed a possession-based system, and asked them to ALWAYS pass the ball short from free kicks.

How often do they do this? Practically NEVER!!

They pretty much shoot every time, and miss 9 times out of ten.

I set them to 'shoot less often' as well, although as far as I'm concerned that instruction should be related to open play, not free kicks.

Why are they not listening? Am I setting them up wrong, or is this a bug?

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Are you watching every free kick they take or just the ones shown in key highlights?

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Are you watching every free kick they take or just the ones shown in key highlights?

I play on 2D Comprehensive, so I would expect to be seeing most free kicks.

My tactics are very well 'settled' and consistent, so 'fluid' on everything.

Free kick instruction is 'short', and players are positioned close enough to the taker for there to be plenty of short options available.

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If he's asking for all free kicks to be short then it shouldn't matter what highlights he watches his games in.

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How do you know that they're not passing it short "2 inches" and another player shooting?

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How do you know that they're not passing it short "2 inches" and another player shooting?

Because I watch the free kicks.

They just shoot.

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Can you record a few videos and upload them?

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Are you talking about free kicks just outside the box, or general free kicks in other areas of the pitch?

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Are you talking about free kicks just outside the box, or general free kicks in other areas of the pitch?

They are mostly ones that you'd describe as 'within range', but they've still been given instructions to pass short.

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Can you record a few videos and upload them?

What's the best way to do this?

Is there a facility in the game?

Not done that before!

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They are mostly ones that you'd describe as 'within range', but they've still been given instructions to pass short.

I can't be sure, but I reckon the 'pass short' instruction for free kicks won't be coded for FK's that are in shooting range outside the area. It would be fairly unrealistic if your players passed it short every time you had a free kick in that sort of area, probably why it will be coded they will always shoot from there. But as I said, that might not be the case.

If they're always playing it long in other areas of the pitch despite your instructions, then there's more of an issue there.

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I can't be sure, but I reckon the 'pass short' instruction for free kicks won't be coded for FK's that are in shooting range outside the area. It would be fairly unrealistic if your players passed it short every time you had a free kick in that sort of area, probably why it will be coded they will always shoot from there. But as I said, that might not be the case.

If they're always playing it long in other areas of the pitch despite your instructions, then there's more of an issue there.

Good point. I'll watch a few games and see what they tend to do when the free kicks are further out.

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Similar problem with corners. I had a tactic "short corner" box ticked. had a player assigned to go short. Highlights 9/10 times puts ball into the box with player who is assignes to go short just standing there.

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Yep, trying to build a possession based tactic so I don't want to lose possession from set plays. Corners set to take short, clearly an option standing near the corner completely unmarked and yet the corner taker mostly (9/10 times maybe) puts the ball into the box. If a player isn't listening to a basic set piece instruction how do I know how closely he's paying attention to any other instructions?

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What's the best way to do this?

Is there a facility in the game?

Not done that before!

You can upload goals but it isn't properly working all the time. Sometimes it works and other times the video just shows an empty pitch. I recommend Fraps.

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Similar problem with corners. I had a tactic "short corner" box ticked. had a player assigned to go short. Highlights 9/10 times puts ball into the box with player who is assignes to go short just standing there.

This last worked for me on FM11.

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This last worked for me on FM11.

Worked fine on FM14, not used it yet this year to comment.

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This game is terrible! I have quite clearly set corners to go near post and my corner taker always ignores this!! So many problems with this game

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I can't be sure, but I reckon the 'pass short' instruction for free kicks won't be coded for FK's that are in shooting range outside the area. It would be fairly unrealistic if your players passed it short every time you had a free kick in that sort of area, probably why it will be coded they will always shoot from there. But as I said, that might not be the case.

If they're always playing it long in other areas of the pitch despite your instructions, then there's more of an issue there.

This fact annoys me incredibly. I don't mean just a little. I really do mean incredibly hugely vastly humongously.

I don't want players to shoot on freekicks, ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever. It is an absurd waste of time if you don't have an amazing free-kick specialist and frankly, most of the time it's still an absurd waste of time even then.

I don't even care if it's not realistic in that most teams will shoot if it's close enough to do so. It's a matter of philosophy. I hate the inefficiency and want to be rid of it! In fact, I want an option that lets me run onto the pitch and kick the player up the backside every time he wastes a freekick. And I want a "Kicking Bishop Brennan..." achievement on Steam if I do it 50 times.

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I have the same problem with my corners, my right corner taker is advised to pass it short, yet he always smashes the ball into the box! And yes, there is a player coming short.

About the freekicks they will always shoot if they are "within range", but i also noticed on some long freekicks they don't pass it short when they have to.

Hopefully this will be fixed. :thdn:

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Also just realised this happens on my corners a lot. They're supposed to hit them to the penalty spot area of the box, but instead, they're whacking them either near post or to the edge of the penalty area.

I presume it's just bad aim, though...

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I've kept trying and trying, but my players completely ignore what they've been told to do.

Doesn't matter how many players I place around the free kick taker to receive the ball, or how clearly I tell them not to shoot, they just shoot anyway.

100% not what they've been instructed to do.

Can someone look into this please, SI, or let us know what we're all doing wrong?

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What is the point in setting instructions if ya players are going to ignore them???

Yep. Every time, a 35 crap shot instead of a short pass to the team-mate standing next to him, which is what I've asked for.

Come on, SI - fix please!

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What is the point in setting instructions if ya players are going to ignore them???

Because it's Football Manager .. ;)

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Because it's Football Manager .. ;)

Any chance of anyone from SI commenting on this?

Seems to be annoying a lot of people.

There goes another free kick over the bar...

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Confirming I am getting the same results on Free Kicks and Corner Kicks. Tactics are set to Always Short. Very rarely do I ever see a short kick.

I'm starting to doubt whether any of my tactical instructions actually make a difference.

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I can certainly confirm this issue as well. I've given up on those instructions because they seem to not work at all.

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What's worse?

Having your set piece instructions ignored by your players, or having your issue completely ignored by the makers of the game you bought?

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What's worse?

Having your set piece instructions ignored by your players, or having your issue completely ignored by the makers of the game you bought?

I'll go with the second one :D

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Upload .pkm files to the bugs forum, it's a far more effective way of getting potential issues reviewed and fixed :thup:

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/406157

I'll bump this, as it appears to have been forgotten.

SI are not ignoring any issue, but it's unclear in this instance if there even is an issue.

What is clear is that barely anything relating to this has been raised in the Bugs Forum.

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I'll bump this, as it appears to have been forgotten.

SI are not ignoring any issue, but it's unclear in this instance if there even is an issue.

What is clear is that barely anything relating to this has been raised in the Bugs Forum.

Thanks, that's probably because people are trying to work out if it is a bug or their tactics at this stage.

But have you counted the number of people in this thread who are dubious about the effectiveness of set piece instructions?

It may not be in the bugs forum, but people certainly seem to think it is a problem.

I cannot get my players to adhere to the 'short' set piece instruction at all.

Can someone from SI advise?

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I've switched to a new game with Grimsby Town.

Same conditions for testing: settled team, fluid, good morale, performing well in the league.

Set my midfielder to take short free kicks. He's supposed to be decent from free kicks. 12 for a Grimsby player isn't bad.

Make sure he is set to 'shoot less often', and always has players around him to short pass to.

And what does he do? Every single damned time? Balloons the ball over the bar.

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