RTHerringbone Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hotfix 1.5Goalkeeper on the ground: Goalkeeper starts to move much quicker than before, that's good! But still then moves toooo slowly, that's bad... A missed opportunity that will never get fixed as they missed this obvious fault. You have had the process explained to you in the bugs forum by an SI member of staff. It is completely false to say the bug will never get fixed as it was missed. Most people will agree that these issues are reduced but could still be refined further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitao09 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Disappointed that my last post has been deleted too. I will stop saying the truth, it's better for everyone. That game is perfect and the update fixed all the issues ! Nice job SI Games ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Disappointed that my last post has been deleted too. I will stop saying the truth, it's better for everyone. That game is perfect and the update fixed all the issues ! Nice job SI Games ! As per the forum house rules (link in the forum header), keep your criticism contructive. You still haven't mentioned what your tactical setup is. I suspect that's the major reason why you're seeing so many goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 28, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 28, 2014 just downloaded the hotfix and have got a crash dump just after i clicked to attend meeting. Please raise the issue here for me - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/462-PC-Specific-Issues Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Played 23 games after the patch. A bit early to tell from that, but I have some first impression. To summarize I'm playing a narrow 4312 with Sassuolo, expected to finish 2nd in the league Scoring most of my goals from crosses. My wing backs have 19 assists. 3 Center mids + Trequartista have 6 assists. I'm not scoring or conceding much at all from throws, free kicks or corners. Teams sit very deep when defending. It seems very easy to create chances against worse team because the relinquish so much space, but very often it's extremely hard to convert them as the box just get's overcrowded. I would say 3/4 of my games have just been an absolute battering on the opposition goal, and then conceding the odd counter It seems very easy to convert chances when you are having a go at a better team. I.e I've had 6 games end 0-0 or 1-1 and most other games has ended with a narrow 1 goal win after a comeback, but playing away against Dortmund I won 6-2. At home I beat them 4-1. So in other words, at least for me with my current set up, it's very difficult to score against minnows, but if you take the lead (or you're up against a team that's better than you) and the AI tries to attack you and leave a bit of space, it's very easy to punish them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevgaleuk Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I would echo the sentiment that defending appears better (from 2 games since the patch) This may be more of a future feature than a tweak to what is there but I really need an option (both at team level and individual player level) to tell my players (midfielders in particular) to make a tackle. I know there is the "get stuck in" option but its not about being more aggressive generally its about lessening the standing off Also - one slight issue I still see is in press conferences. I was awarded a penalty to which I said I agree. The next news item said that the opposing manager agreed it was a penalty. However on continuing the next news item was their manager saying it wasn't a penalty and asking me to comment on it... Just seems out of sync to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 As per the forum house rules (link in the forum header), keep your criticism contructive.You still haven't mentioned what your tactical setup is. I suspect that's the major reason why you're seeing so many goals. After the patch, I am averaging 1.4 goals/game scored and 0.6 goals/game conceded only. It is not fair for people to blame the ME for every anomaly they encounter. This one is purely due to his tactics, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Scores before the Hotfix: 45 goals in 16 games Scored after the Hotfix: 55 goals in 15 games The difference isn't significant so I don't understand why so many people are saying there are still too many goals. If there's anything suspicious about the goals I have scored post-patch, it's the amount that are coming from outside the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Anyone else having problems making players available for their under 20s and under 18s squads? I have a goalkeeper who is in my first team squad and I keep setting him to available for the under 20s but as a game approaches it keeps saying I have don't have anyone selected from the main squad, I keep trying but it never seems to work. I check after each game and sure enough the player has never played. Screenshots - Player selected.. http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/25097277471987333/F7720BA93A798BF499FCE3F99E04674D9726FE25/ Message saying no-one is selected... http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/25097277471982318/5137B9784F5B6697DEA7E31D633C67C223AA1B12/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Anyone else having problems making players available for their under 20s and under 18s squads? If you clear your team selection it will show you all players, selected to be available or not. It's basically set up so that you can make unselected 1st team players available, but that's kinda pointless is Serie A with 12 substitutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Not sure I am following eple. The player was not in the 12 subs and I have him selected to be available for the under 20s team, the message says he is not selected and he never plays, the only way I can get around it is to actually move him to the under 20s squad which in turn makes the whole idea of making 1st team members available for the under 20s useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defensive Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 55 goals in 15 games I don't understand why so many people are saying there are still too many goals. Thats a very strange statement. Divide 55 through 15 and maybe you are going to suss it?^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corn_onthecurb Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Has the option to select which date your players return from pre season been removed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 *Bangs head on laptop* Nevermind I was just being stupid, I thought the under 20s in Italy worked the same way as the under 21s do in England and that players of any age can play for them. Seems my 22 year old keeper is too old to play for the under 20s, sorry first release managing in Italy, still have some rules to learn, that's another 1 down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner475 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 *Bangs head on laptop*Nevermind I was just being stupid, I thought the under 20s in Italy worked the same way as the under 21s do in England and that players of any age can play for them. Seems my 22 keeper is too old to play for the under 20s, sorry first release managing in Italy, still have some rules to learn, that's another 1 down! I was literally was just typing the words 'is he eligible to play?' At least you got there in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Not sure I am following eple.The player was not in the 12 subs and I have him selected to be available for the under 20s team, the message says he is not selected and he never plays, the only way I can get around it is to actually move him to the under 20s squad which in turn makes the whole idea of making 1st team members available for the under 20s useless. Oh, I see. My bad, it looked like it was one of the subs in the SS. Then no, this is not something I see in my game. However, this player is above 20 years of age, is he not? Match rules in the U-20 league states that no player above 20 years may be selected. Edit: Seems you figured it out yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarmatian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Wingers wide defending slightly better but still bad overall. Crosses slightly less effective, but still too effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 You have had the process explained to you in the bugs forum by an SI member of staff. It is completely false to say the bug will never get fixed as it was missed. Most people will agree that these issues are reduced but could still be refined further. Hi RTHerringbone Quite right he did, but I posted here first before reading his reply. But I maintain that these more "obvious" problems should be sorted out pre-release with the years of experience and all the resources available to the company. Still the best though and as you say... does not mean it cannot get better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Wingers wide defending slightly better but still bad overall. Crosses slightly less effective, but still too effective. How many goals are you conceding/scoring from crosses in total? Some studies show the total goals scored in an entire competition (Euro 2012 for example) is 43% of those goals come from crosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raniel3 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 How many goals are you conceding/scoring from crosses in total? Some studies show the total goals scored in an entire competition (Euro 2012 for example) is 43% of those goals come from crosses. Link? In my opinion this isn't even remotely true, as the premier league average is 16%. Can't remember Euro 2012 being a crossing festival with Spain winning it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hi RTHerringboneQuite right he did, but I posted here first before reading his reply. But I maintain that these more "obvious" problems should be sorted out pre-release with the years of experience and all the resources available to the company. Still the best though and as you say... does not mean it cannot get better! As per Cyrus' response, the goalkeeper reaction problem is not a single bug; it is a range of bugs which can be lumped together in one category. There isn't one single line of code saying "Shoot like this, and then the keeper should do this". If there was, the problem might not exist. Instead, there are vast swathes of code relating to all goalscoring opportunities, and similar volumes relating to all aspects of goalkeeping. The reason .pkms are sought is because it provides coverage of more types of efforts on goal and more types of efforts to save them. There are numerous combinations to address and the fact that not all combinations are resolved yet, is not for lack of trying, believe me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Link? In my opinion this isn't even remotely true, as the premier league average is 16%. Can't remember Euro 2012 being a crossing festival with Spain winning it... http://thesportjournal.org/article/analysis-of-goal-scoring-patterns-in-the-2012-european-football-championship/ Most goals were scored after a cross (43.7%) while regarding goal scoring area, over 90% of goals were scored inside the penalty area and specifically from the area between penalty spot and goal zone (42.1%). Finally, almost ½ of goals were scored without any pressure from defenders. From the abstract, that is 43% of goals from the entire tournament not just one team, so I would assume the statistics would be lower if you analyse individual teams. But also, I've never seen anyone put forward links/evidence for the Premier League statistics, the 16% one I saw seemed to me to be more of 'successful' crosses per match not necessarily goals from cross percentage. Not arguing it though, there seems to be no decent website or studies correlating anything to be honest, that article was the only one I could find via a casual google search. >_> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner475 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 51% of Falcao's 153 goals since he moved to Europe have come from crosses. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2753980/Radamel-Falcao-scored-half-153-Europe-goals-crosses.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Thats a very strange statement. Divide 55 through 15 and maybe you are going to suss it?^^ Not really, it's just an extra goal a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricperes Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Good evening, I want to start a new game but do not know what qualifications as a coach choose, if not to choose any qualification, does anyone know how long I take to reach the maximum level pro continental? thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 51% of Falcao's 153 goals since he moved to Europe have come from crosses.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2753980/Radamel-Falcao-scored-half-153-Europe-goals-crosses.html Great statistic. This is why his Off The Ball and Anticipation attributes are so high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Good evening, I want to start a new game but do not know what qualifications as a coach choose, if not to choose any qualification, does anyone know how long I take to reach the maximum level pro continental? thank you Depends on where you start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarmatian Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 How many goals are you conceding/scoring from crosses in total? Some studies show the total goals scored in an entire competition (Euro 2012 for example) is 43% of those goals come from crosses. At the moment it is 58% with 47 goals scored in total Should have been bigger, there have been a few more CCC where my players missed sitters from less than a meter. Also, it doesn't include the fact when the cross is what created the chance, but wasn't the actual assist. Roughly, I'd say over 70% of goals come from crosses but are not always counted as such (rebounds from GK or woodwork, briefly intercepted by a defender etc, etc...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuka Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hi everybody. Did anyone have any issues with the game not seeing the update? I tried restarting multiple times, setting priority to high in Steam game properties but nothing helped. Is there a way to start the download manually? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricperes Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Depends on where you start. i start in a good team, first division Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hi everybody. Did anyone have any issues with the game not seeing the update? I tried restarting multiple times, setting priority to high in Steam game properties but nothing helped. Is there a way to start the download manually? Thanks How do you know your game hasn't updated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuka Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 How do you know your game hasn't updated? When I start FM it says 15.1.3 in bottom right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy121 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 yes realy enjoying it have realy watched a whole match to tedious ,oh by the way what do they mean that my players are not getting enough coaching attention never happened before ,so how do I resolve that please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It could be that he's targeting the same players as rival clubs & just losing out. I'd be interested in getting a look at your save, can you start a thread in the bugs forum & upload a copy of your save to our ftp server? Yeah , will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 As per Cyrus' response, the goalkeeper reaction problem is not a single bug; it is a range of bugs which can be lumped together in one category. There isn't one single line of code saying "Shoot like this, and then the keeper should do this". If there was, the problem might not exist. Instead, there are vast swathes of code relating to all goalscoring opportunities, and similar volumes relating to all aspects of goalkeeping. The reason .pkms are sought is because it provides coverage of more types of efforts on goal and more types of efforts to save them. There are numerous combinations to address and the fact that not all combinations are resolved yet, is not for lack of trying, believe me! Hi RTHerringbone I do believe you! And yes Cyrus Yeganeh explained quite well. Ok, so there are different anims for saves, and therefor different ones for getting to his feet yes? From my experiences watching the matches all the recovery (getting to his feet) and repositioning anims need to be faster. All these animations I think, will have an associated speed parameter. Whilst saying this I think the main fault of the keeper being a candidate for the wax museum has been fixed in all eventualities and for this we can be thankful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 When I start FM it says 15.1.3 in bottom right. Try verifying game cache and/or change your download server. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy121 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 lol shoosh I like it like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuka Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Try verifying game cache and/or change your download server. Verifying game cache did the trick, thanks a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Just did a a test game with Chelsea, won the league and FA Cup but only had 1 clean sheet in 55 games, the AI always finds away to fluke or cheat their way to goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Last night i was playing Swansea in the league and i got this message Just 10mins ago i started the game up again and played Swansea again with the same thing happening. What should i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Just did a a test game with Chelsea, won the league and FA Cup but only had 1 clean sheet in 55 games Is that representative of the game as a whole, or you as a tactician? It's an awful statistic and implies that you use an overly attacking system, and probably a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 with Attacking AML/R players. By comparison, here are my most recent results, all on the new ME: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner475 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Just did a a test game with Chelsea, won the league and FA Cup but only had 1 clean sheet in 55 games, the AI always finds away to fluke or cheat their way to goal I won the league and 2 cups last season with Arsenal and had 27 clean sheets in 61 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I am sure this must have been reported but the official that stands behind the left hand side goal is becoming more annoying than a fat male streaker! Something seems to glitch and he stays in the same place every other game. 1st half .... http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/25097277478210172/9DF078CA5273A309C51A6C4041DCAB84FEFD79AA/ 2nd half .... http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/25097277478214089/2FC084EA428AAEB6AB67BC75FFF40C2D0932F2ED/ It gets a little Benny Hill when players actually come in from that side and are running round/through him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Anyone having any luck on attacking corners since the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Is that representative of the game as a whole, or you as a tactician? It's an awful statistic and implies that you use an overly attacking system, and probably a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 with Attacking AML/R players.By comparison, here are my most recent results, all on the new ME: 4-2-3-1 wth 2 DLP Defending, one AMC Support and 2 Inside Forwards atttacking, 35 yarders are nothing to do with tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 4-2-3-1 wth 2 DLP Defending, one AMC Support and 2 Inside Forwards atttacking, 35 yarders are nothing to do with tactics No, but 1 clean sheet in 55 is everything to do with tactics Your flanks are woefully exposed too, but you already knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 26 games played. I've seen one long range shot go in, and no free kick goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Must say getting rid of players via the DOF seems pretty poor. Have 3 players on sell or release for 3 months now and I can't give them away! In fm14 it was pretty easy to just let them go. One especially wants to leave and I tried to take it on myself and offered a mutual termination and he got upset and refused. I can't win!! Also does anyone know how the game calculates loans in second season? Alex Song obviously is with West Ham for the first year and the Club pays 50% of his wages. I want him a second year but Barcelona are now asking for us to pay 100% of his wages,. Noticed this in previous games as well with high profile real life loans being practically impossible to continue into the second season due to very high demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 4-2-3-1 wth 2 DLP Defending, one AMC Support and 2 Inside Forwards atttacking, 35 yarders are nothing to do with tactics So, even when you have clear statistical evidence from another player, playing as the same team, that clean sheets are very much possible, you still refuse to accept you're at fault here? Wow. Just wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Walds Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Last night i was playing Swansea in the league and i got this message Just 10mins ago i started the game up again and played Swansea again with the same thing happening. What should i do? Report it in the bugs forum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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