FuSS Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 New version, back to old style, short passing lower tempo, http://www.mediafire.com/download/60capy9iwaeleo3/FuSSciculation_V1.4.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlandskommun Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 what traingnig u use ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Same formation and instructions as per OP Fuss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Same formation and instructions as per OP Fuss? Spot on (ive actually tweaked the op a little to suit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEric07 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Superb tactic Fuss. Probably the only tactic that works consistently well in the lower leagues for me. New save and promoted first season with East Stirlingshire.. Started season with a different tactic, switch to this when we were 3rd bottom, ended up promoted via playoffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWater93 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What kind of training do u use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
byjimini Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hi Fuss, I used your 2013 442 tactic to great success; bookmarking this for when I eventually get FM15. Glad to see your tactics still going strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drads Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hi Fuss, have used this to great success already on this years game! Is it still performing with the latest patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoede Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 This is working well with the newest patch as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Afternoon all, just a little bump to let you know I'm alive and just purchased my pre-download of FM2016+BETA access Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Afternoon all, just a little bump to let you know I'm alive and just purchased my pre-download of FM2016+BETA access Very interested to see what you come up with... I liked the last 2 versions of this, so am going to see if I can get them working in 16 tonight. Having a control & counter version should be more than enough to get you through most games imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Very interested to see what you come up with...I liked the last 2 versions of this, so am going to see if I can get them working in 16 tonight. Having a control & counter version should be more than enough to get you through most games imo. Thanks, I haven't really tried to come up with anything during the beta, seemed pointless, but will start work this weekend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k3k389 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Thanks, I haven't really tried to come up with anything during the beta, seemed pointless, but will start work this weekend! I'm waiting for it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Higher line control seems harder to get to work, as does the overly narrow tactics (which is a good thing), with the current interesting behaviour of fullbacks. Have a feeling that patient counter based football will be received well this year, but interested to see what you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'd have to agree based on what I've seen so far, counter attacking and bursts of movement from the midfield area seem key, it's much more enjoyable to watch, but much much harder to control a game this year. My initial impression is that it may be time to give up on advanced wingers and inside forwards, counter attacking quickly and from deeper seems much more secure and effective, a 4-5-1 or a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-4-2 are on the cards I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'd have to agree based on what I've seen so far, counter attacking and bursts of movement from the midfield area seem key, it's much more enjoyable to watch, but much much harder to control a game this year. Balancing full backs attack v defence is very tricky too. If you can get them to overlap and cross you can score loads, but making them defend equally well (without compromising your attack wide midfielders) I have found a nightmare. Wide playmaker(s) and more conservative CM's is one option. As is playing 4-1-3-2 / 4-3-1-2 and abandoning wingers altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 My initial impression is that it may be time to give up on advanced wingers and inside forwards, counter attacking quickly and from deeper seems much more secure and effective, a 4-5-1 or a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-4-2 are on the cards I reckon. Indeed, I've been playing around with a 4141, with supporting wide men that i change to a 4-1-3-2 when I want to crowd the middle against narrow formations. Playing a WP(s) and WM(A) on the flanks means they can usually transition well into AP or DP and CM(A). With WP & WM you can narrow them in to release full backs overlapping too. Just wish I could make it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I seem to be having much more success by giving up on symmetry! I'm playing WB and IF forward combo on one wing and an IWB and WINGER on the other, team is much more solid defensively as a result! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoede Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The tactic in OP seems to still be working fine in FM 16. Just need some minor tweaks I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 I cant even open FM15 tactics in FM16?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I cant even open FM15 tactics in FM16?? You can't - it's done on purpose which is frustrating. There is no workaround and you have to create new tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeshy Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 You can't - it's done on purpose which is frustrating. There is no workaround and you have to create new tactics. You can with some of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 You can with some of them. You could on the BETA but I was told you're not supposed to be able to by someone from SI in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Happy days @ southampton, 10 played, 10 won, 19GD, looking good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Happy days @ southampton, 10 played, 10 won, 19GD, looking good! Promising! Is it the same formation as the one above? Are you scoring enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Boom.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Promising! Is it the same formation as the one above? Are you scoring enough? Nope, it's a very narrow 4-1-4-1, 2 wingers and 2 Attacking CMs surging into the box. it's very solid defensively, just comfortably held Chelsea away, but it's struggling for creativity sometimes so still some work to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Nope, it's a very narrow 4-1-4-1, 2 wingers and 2 Attacking CMs surging into the box. it's very solid defensively, just comfortably held Chelsea away, but it's struggling for creativity sometimes so still some work to do. Out of interest, what role have you got your striker in? Also, have you tried a Wide Playmaker? I've consistently had excellent performances from that role (not done so well with the other 10 though ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'm not a fan of play-makers, think it forces the team to play through one or two particular people and can slow the breaks and counter-attacks down...I'll give it a bash though! At the moment the lone striker is a false 9, I may try something a little more attacking, but the possession and link up play is very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I would normally agree with playmakers, but the wide ones are a bit different. They're like a deep inside forward, but seem more aware, in one of my tests I got goals and assists by the bucket load from Stuart Dallas, and he's hardly world class They seem to get into that position just in the penalty area when the ball is on the other flank and score from crosses from the other side. It's a good role this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'd have to check with a mod if it's just player instructions or if it's like ticking the old "use a playmaker box" which forces the team to play through them....if it doesn't them I'd happily consider the role. Just say into a mirror "cleon cleon cleon"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'd have to check with a mod if it's just player instructions or if it's like ticking the old "use a playmaker box" which forces the team to play through them....if it doesn't them I'd happily consider the role.Just say into a mirror "cleon cleon cleon"... Any tme of relesea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'd have to check with a mod if it's just player instructions or if it's like ticking the old "use a playmaker box" which forces the team to play through them....if it doesn't them I'd happily consider the role.Just say into a mirror "cleon cleon cleon"... What's the question? Is it the playmaker one? If so you are correct and using one does force the team to play through them more and look to pass to them a lot more frequent. It's hard-coded behavior of the old 'use a playmaker' box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 What's the question? Is it the playmaker one? If so you are correct and using one does force the team to play through them more and look to pass to them a lot more frequent. It's hard-coded behavior of the old 'use a playmaker' box. Thanks buddy, also long time no see! Puts me off using playmaker roles at all, I think people are too naturally drawn to them as the positional settings are attractive but I don't like the affect on the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 it's very solid defensively Cant wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 What do you know, wide playmakers are pretty handy! Points to Macca! Cant decide if I like structured or flexible best though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm not a huge fan of this match engine, a huge amount of closing down seems very effective (I traditionally prefer less closing down), I think SI have been catch up in all the Klopp hype this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm not a huge fan of this match engine, a huge amount of closing down seems very effective (I traditionally prefer less closing down), I think SI have been catch up in all the Klopp hype this year! Hello Mr FuSS when we can expect tacitck to be released ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 What do you know, wide playmakers are pretty handy! Points to Macca! Cant decide if I like structured or flexible best though. Flexible I have found slightly better. Wide Playmakers I like, Nbr 1 preference for me is a WP on one wing allowing an overlapping FB and a WM on the other with a supporting / defensive wingback behind. Should create nice variety and gives you options in terms of player recruitment. It's another reason I like the WP, you can find plenty of good playmaking CM's and retrain to the wide position. I can't make it work mind you, but I love the theory of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Flexible I have found slightly better.Wide Playmakers I like, Nbr 1 preference for me is a WP on one wing allowing an overlapping FB and a WM on the other with a supporting / defensive wingback behind. Should create nice variety and gives you options in terms of player recruitment. It's another reason I like the WP, you can find plenty of good playmaking CM's and retrain to the wide position. I can't make it work mind you, but I love the theory of it! Interestingly if I use WP's in AMR/L positions I dominate possession but struggle to score - if I move them back to MR/L I score but struggle more with possession...I think this game really favours people bursting into the box from deeper to overload the opposition area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Hello Mr FuSS when we can expect tacitck to be released ? Welcome back Al! A while yet buddy, still undecided on quite a few critical factors: MR/ML vs AMR/AML Flexible vs structured Standard vs attacking I'm winning nearly every game as is, but I like to understand why everything works as it does before I settle on a tactic, test fully and release. Also is there still a swap position function and it's been hidden?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Welcome back Al! A while yet buddy, still undecided on quite a few critical factors:MR/ML vs AMR/AML Flexible vs structured Standard vs attacking I'm winning nearly every game as is, but I like to understand why everything works as it does before I settle on a tactic, test fully and release. Also is there still a swap position function and it's been hidden?? Ty buddy it is nice to hear that you are going strong and still didnt finish it best of luck my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTC Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Swap position is in personal instructions in between role and PIs selected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Swap position is in personal instructions in between role and PIs selected. Thanks HTC, wont be in the tactic but I like it personally A couple of select people have received an early version of my tactic for testing as my time is so limited at the moment, hopefully we'll get things moving faster now! BTW Macca, your messages are full! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Not any more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piussi Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I hope the tactic will come soon havent much fun this version of the game .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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