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S I have played 12 matches with Charlton. Pretty much every goal I have conceded is from a cross into the box, both et piece or from a run down the wing, and an opposition striker has headed, or volleyed it in.

Struggling to stop them scoring from these crosses.

Would it be the defenders attributes like Anticipation (i.e. expecting the ball in)...the Heading, strength etc.. I should look at?

My full backs are on Defensive duty. In fact my whole back four are on defensive duty. Right sided wide midfielders is on Attack, the other one is on Support. It seems that crosses from either side cause issues.

Any thoughts?

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I would suspect they are near post crosses which his defenders aren't dealing with properly

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I'm having the same problem. Just wanted to post a thread about fullbacks.

Their positioning and marking is extremely poor. Most of the goals I score and concede are from crosses, usually on the far post, with my AML or AMR arriving totally unmarked, even though they are vastly outnumbered and opposing fullback isn't tracking anyone at that moment.

They are quite poor at stopping opposition wingers, unless aided by a ML/R, while AML/R are much worse at tracking back in general, unless specifically told to man mark someone. Experimenting with different instructions didn't bring much difference.

It is definitely an issue that needs addressing, as soon as possible, unless I'm missing something obvious.

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It's a bit of a mixture, some low to the near post, and a few to the back post...

Thinking I may have to put my wide midfielders on a defensive duty to help my full back. not sure that will help, but will try.

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tell your fullbacks to man mark the guys your having trouble with marking.

if its opposition fullbacks then have your winger man mark them. its what you see in RL football nowadays even players like Ribery,Robben,Hazard etc have adapted to at least mark the fullback.

also i would like to point out majority of goals in real life do come from crosses, i would watch a few games completely and not just on highlights only(pretty much highlights is pointless if u are trying to analyze problems especially defensive ones).

think of it this way if its happening 20 times in a game but u only saw that 1 time they scored then thats your fault for not being a hands on manager as you could have made changes to prevent it after seeing it happen a few times before the goal.

your essentially acting like Wenger was against swansea in which the whole game Chambers was getting destroyed by Montero but did nothing and so what happens they end up losing the game.

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I've mentioned this before, but I'm playing with 3 centre backs and two wing backs, and I don't suffer from this issue of conceding from crosses. However, when I played with my 4-4-2, I did suffer from it. I don't know wether its coincidental or not.

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I've mentioned this before, but I'm playing with 3 centre backs and two wing backs, and I don't suffer from this issue of conceding from crosses. However, when I played with my 4-4-2, I did suffer from it. I don't know wether its coincidental or not.

I don't think it is a coincidence, and it's pretty logical to assume that an extra defensive specialist in the box will help you to better defend crosses.

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I think if you've got your FBs on defensive duty, they're going to wait a little longer to close the winger down aren't they, thus making it less likely for them to get out early and try and stop the cross? Maybe ask FBs to tackle harder as well. On this match engine I'd rather face a free kick from a wide area than a cross from open play.

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i was having major issues with this too,

try using the instructions i use

Full backs (both sides) close down less, tackle harder

centre backs mark tighter, tackle harder

thats what i use with my pretty limited boavista team and it works better than without setting any instructions as it tells your defence to keep its shape the fullbacks will only close down when the opposition gets close to goal and when they do they put in plenty of challenges to win the ball back. The centre backs will get close to any central threat in the box and also put in lots of challenges to win the ball back. i still concede the odd goal from crosses but i put that down to poor mental stats on the defenders as setting these instructions i can at least see them attempting to defend in the match whereas without any instructions the back four is useless.

i would also say i dont use man marking and i have a cm-defend and a ball winner- support infront of them who also harass the opposition

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I've conceded 5 goals in total the last 26 games. I always have one of my wingbacks on defend duty, the other one on support. This also allows you to play a high mentality. Show left winger to right foot with hard tackling and show right winger to left foot with hard tackling. Also on corners, defend your 6-yard box. This has helped my defensive record immensely.

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I am having the same problems. Each time the opposition crosses they connect and they score. I have tried to put "tackle harder" and "mark tighter" on my defenders, but it doesn't help. And they are not THAT bad compared to the strikers they are marking. It is impossible for me to prevent a goal.

I have also tried to put defend on my backs and have them mark tighter etc.

I have an example where a throw-in is thrown short. I go out to close down with one person. In the box is one opponent (defensive midfielder, left) surrounded by four (!) of my men (two central defenders, right back and defensive midfielder). Comes to front post, he knocks it in with his right foot (he is left footed only). finishing: 4, first touch: 6, decision: 8 etc....

This must be some type of bug.

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The only bugs are that there are generally too many crosses still, and they are too accurate. However, it is something of an exaggeration to imply that it favours the AI and that they convert all their crosses. If they did, there would be dozens of goals in each match.

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They don't always score, but the crosses are connecting 8 out of 10 times, despite them being outnumbered. Considering my examples are from LLM (currently Vanarama Conference) these crossers should be playing on their respective national teams, because this must be some type of world record. Considering you are marked tightlu by 3-4 men, and you still manage to meet the ball first every time is impressive.

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I'm sorry, but I cannot possibly imagine 80% cross completion. Could you back the statement up with a screenshot of cross completion stats from a game where this has happened?

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I posted about it in the sticky thread but didn't bother creating a new thread because it isn't a problem specific to one tactic or team for me. A bad workman blames his tools and all that but I really think this is a problem with the match engine itself rather than tactical inadequacies on our part.

Ultimately I think the problem is that the attacking team seems to get on the end of more crosses than they should. Defenders not picking up opposition runners being the main reason that happens. I watch games exclusively on extended or above highlights mode and this is what I'm seeing.

It works both ways obviously and I've seen lots of goals scored exactly the way OP describes, my AML/ML arriving at the back post and getting on the end of a cross unmarked. It's a bit dull playing in such a way that takes advantage of something like this though.

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