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Must be on lower sized screened laptops because mines the same as his on 95% zoomed. When I set it to 75% I get the subs on the right but the text is too small to have it on this view.

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Regardless of your problem, adding subs is easy. Just click next to your subs' names. A list of replacements will pop up.

That doesn't happen on mine. If I right click on the name of player in one of the substitute positions it just deselects him. It's hard to explain so I've attached a video below. Be wary of my annoying voice.

EDIT: I see what you mean now by clicking on the arrow next to there names. However it's still such a fiddly system, not easy to use at all. And the problem still remains that when I deselect a substitute, the only way to get that slot back is to use the 'Quick pick' solution. Obviously I can also get the subs bar back by selecting the 95% display option in preferences, but again that's just a work-around. Clearly the UI isn't functioning as it should.

EDIT2: Just discovered I can also adds subs from the squad page. It has the easy to use drop down menu all previous FM's had. Question is why is it on the squad page but no the tactics page? So much easier to use than the system on the tactics page.

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There you are sweetheart. Might want to look up and read a few posts :).

Any particular reason you're acting in this manner with people , it's weird given you're the only one doing it.

And I'm not sure how going back to the squad screen and adding subs there is good advice, I assume from other replies I am meant to be able to add them on the tactics screen using the boxes on the left ?

That doesn't happen on mine. If I right click on the name of player in one of the substitute positions it just deselects him. It's hard to explain so I've attached a video below. Be wary of my annoying voice.

EDIT: I see what you mean now by clicking on the arrow next to there names. However it's still such a fiddly system, not easy to use at all. And the problem still remains that when I deselect a substitute, the only way to get that slot back is to use the 'Quick pick' solution. Obviously I can also get the subs bar back by selecting the 95% display option in preferences, but again that's just a work-around. Clearly the UI isn't functioning as it should.

I wonder if our issues are linked. I'm pretty sure before I lost my 2 slots I removed gusy from the slots. I also get that little black box if I right click the slot.

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Since this is the official feedback thread, I will add to the many criticisms of the tactics screen thats already been posted.

I don't mind the new look, honestly. I just don't think it belongs in the main tab of the tactics screen. The player roles column should belong in the Player Instructions tab, where people go to fine tune their individual player roles and instructions. Removing the ability to tweak player roles directly on the tactics pitch and putting it on the player selection list is a mistake. It is a huge step back, why would anyone do this? Letting us choose from a refined list of players suitable for that position is a well thought out concept, but it seems a bit too mainstream. It is a convenience for sure, which makes me believe that this was intended for new audiences and the more casual gamers who want to get into the series. It feels like it belongs in FIFA Manager or something. Personally I don't mind it as long as you still let us choose players like we normally do, by right clicking on the position tab. There should be a choice, rather than forcing us to use the new layout.

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To me, everythgin seems so slow and laboured when you click something. Like, I click on the player drop down menu to put someone on the bench and it takes a good couple of seconds to show the players etc. Also the match engine doesn;t seem smooth and the 2D classic pitch looks completely different from last years.

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To me, everythgin seems so slow and laboured when you click something. Like, I click on the player drop down menu to put someone on the bench and it takes a good couple of seconds to show the players etc. Also the match engine doesn;t seem smooth and the 2D classic pitch looks completely different from last years.

Yeah we're aware of this problem it's listed in the first post of the feedback thread. Thanks.

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Loads of my players are mad because I've sold Yaya Sanogo. Which is probably a bit unrealistic, Ozil, Podolski, Ox and more all want to leave due to this.

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Since this is the official feedback thread, I will add to the many criticisms of the tactics screen thats already been posted.

I don't mind the new look, honestly. I just don't think it belongs in the main tab of the tactics screen. The player roles column should belong in the Player Instructions tab, where people go to fine tune their individual player roles and instructions. Removing the ability to tweak player roles directly on the tactics pitch and putting it on the player selection list is a mistake. It is a huge step back, why would anyone do this? Letting us choose from a refined list of players suitable for that position is a well thought out concept, but it seems a bit too mainstream. It is a convenience for sure, which makes me believe that this was intended for new audiences and the more casual gamers who want to get into the series. It feels like it belongs in FIFA Manager or something. Personally I don't mind it as long as you still let us choose players like we normally do, by right clicking on the position tab. There should be a choice, rather than forcing us to use the new layout.

Yeah, I agree, should be a choice. It's a bit of a struggle in some areas, particularly tactics and player stuff. Seems like you have to switch between too many places.

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I wonder if our issues are linked. I'm pretty sure before I lost my 2 slots I removed gusy from the slots. I also get that little black box if I right click the slot.

As cleaner475 found out, I wasn't talking about right clicking. I simple left click brings up the menu. That's how I select players. It's longer the the old method, but I'm okay with it.

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Loads of my players are mad because I've sold Yaya Sanogo. Which is probably a bit unrealistic, Ozil, Podolski, Ox and more all want to leave due to this.

Raise the issue on our bugs forum here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/422-Interaction-Conversations-Team-Meetings

But players will react badly if they've seen you sell someone they view as a hot prospect for the club.

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Ok confirmed : when right clicking to remove a player on the left of the tactics screen , it doesn't unassign that slot from the player.

In this picture Ive removed all 7 subs and there isn't any way to assign them a slot on the left.

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As cleaner475 found out, I wasn't talking about right clicking. I simple left click brings up the menu. That's how I select players. It's longer the the old method, but I'm okay with it.

Neither am I , I've never mentioned right clicking. The issue with the slots on the left I posted about and cleaners video are the same as the image above shows.

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The new UI is just incredibly frustrating, worst for me is the opposition instructions page where now I need to assign instructions such as Closing Down/Tackling 1 by 1 where before I could just highlight using Ctrl/Shift and be done with in about 3 clicks. Oh and the team selection frustrations which have been mentioned by other people above.

Another annoying thing is when you go to the drop-down calendar and try to click on the arrow to Go Holiday or whatever, the box keeps snapping back and forth sometimes before letting you click it. :rolleyes:

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Yeah we're aware of this problem it's listed in the first post of the feedback thread. Thanks.

Ah that's okay then. At least you're aware.

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Don't really get why youth team coaches always want senior team bonuses in their contracts. I really feel as if you could make this better.

For example, I'm trying to sign an u18 coach for my Milan team but he is asking for 5k if the senior team qualifies for the Champions League. Why? That competition has nothing to do with him. He should be getting bonuses for what the youth team do, not what the senior team does (he has no control over the players I bring into the seniors.) Maybe try to include more realistic bonuses such as wining youth team competitions etc.

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Opposition instructions doesn't stay set as I want them to and the drop-down menu to swap two players is ineffective too. Is there anyone who experience the same problems as I can't find anything related to it in the forum. Thanks.

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Finally I can play some FM, wife has had me painting the house all day, I'll start divorce proceedings on Monday!

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Don't really get why youth team coaches always want senior team bonuses in their contracts. I really feel as if you could make this better.

For example, I'm trying to sign an u18 coach for my Milan team but he is asking for 5k if the senior team qualifies for the Champions League. Why? That competition has nothing to do with him. He should be getting bonuses for what the youth team do, not what the senior team does (he has no control over the players I bring into the seniors.) Maybe try to include more realistic bonuses such as wining youth team competitions etc.

In real life very often the entire 'club' get bonuses for winning competitions, we've heard of instances where the tea-lady is rewarded when a team has won a major trophy. But I agree that it's something that could come in - however most clubs are more concerned with producing good players rather than winning specific youth tournaments.

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Game crashed after inserting more than the 20th scouting instruction for 'Inter', while I was adding a second assignment for a scout. On the screen for informing chief scout no 'start assigment' button was available, i wasnt able to cancel the assignment also. After fe minutes FM crashed.

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Starting as an unemployed manager with no coaching badges and sunday league reputation, I'm already getting offered jobs from Conference Premier sides. I manually applied for some jobs, and was offered both Wrexham and Braintree jobs within 2 days of attending interview. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but I don't think teams on the cusp of League 2 would hire someone with no coaching badges, no previous managerial experience or with only sunday league playing experience. I manually applied for a couple of League 2 jobs, but was not offered an interview. Just thought I'd flag that up.

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Game crashed after inserting more than the 20th scouting instruction for 'Inter', while I was adding a second assignment for a scout. On the screen for informing chief scout no 'start assigment' button was available, i wasnt able to cancel the assignment also. After fe minutes FM crashed.

PLEASE, report your issue here: http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/418-Crashes-Game-Launch-and-Technical-Issues

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Starting as an unemployed manager with no coaching badges and sunday league reputation, I'm already getting offered jobs from Conference Premier sides. I manually applied for some jobs, and was offered both Wrexham and Braintree jobs within 2 days of attending interview. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but I don't think teams on the cusp of League 2 would hire someone with no coaching badges, no previous managerial experience or with only sunday league playing experience. I manually applied for a couple of League 2 jobs, but was not offered an interview. Just thought I'd flag that up.
How did your interviews go? Did you have to make a lot of promises or ask for less transfer/wage budgets?

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How did your interviews go? Did you have to make a lot of promises or ask for less transfer/wage budgets?

Nothing out of the ordinary. Said I was happy with both transfer and wage budgets for Wrexham, and even asked for a higher wage budget at Braintree and I was still offered the job with no quarms. I didn't promise anything more than the expectations they outlined.

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You on a Mac per chance?
Nope, Dell Latitude laptop. Not a beast anymore, with Nvidia NVS4200M graphics, but plenty enough for FM14.

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Nothing out of the ordinary. Said I was happy with both transfer and wage budgets for Wrexham, and even asked for a higher wage budget at Braintree and I was still offered the job with no quarms. I didn't promise anything more than the expectations they outlined.

If you believe this is an issie - that you shouldn't be able to get those jobs, especially by not promising much, then I'd suggest raising it here: http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/434-Manager-Contracts-and-Job-Interviews

I know some of the guys looking at this area is keen for any feedback and anomalies.

One thing though - Do you have a save game from where they offer you the interview? If you do, it'll help. Upload it to the FTP server. From there, just tell them how to re-produce what you did to get the job offers.

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Very first competitive game I won away at Old Trafford with The Saints. Seems to be in order this edition :)

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Will there be a release day patch resolving some of the issues?

I don't think anyone could say for certain, as an issue could arise on release day with a planned patch that breaks the game and the patch has to be shelved. However, this is currently a beta period and changes will be getting made regularly based on information that is coming back to them, and typically there is a release day patch.

On another note, I'm enjoying the game so far, been playing a few different saves for a short period of time to try and get to grips with tactics. Went back to FM14 and looked up my instructions from tactics that work there and have brought them across. They flopped at Real Madrid but have worked convincingly well at Barca and Chelsea. Time to take up the challenge further down the leagues and see where further improvements can be made.

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i totally agree on that.

Me too... I don't know what the reasoning was but in this state it's a big step-down from FM 14.

The tactics screen is probably one of the most important in the game and therefore I hope they are working on it before the release date.

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Will there be a release day patch resolving some of the issues?

This is the beta so yes, there will be changes for the finished version.

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Isn't 2 weeks a bit too little time to fully fix and then test the fix of the GK issues?

Yes. Welcome to the FM release process.

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Yes. Welcome to the FM release process.

You're wrongly assuming they only started yesterday. I would imagine that in-house testing is well ahead of the public beta on this one.

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Raise the issue on our bugs forum here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/422-Interaction-Conversations-Team-Meetings

But players will react badly if they've seen you sell someone they view as a hot prospect for the club.

I wonder how close it to reality? Did MU squad go all mad and stopped playing when they sold Cristiano Ronaldo? Same thing when they sold Welbeck?

Did Barcelona squad go crazy when they sold Pique?

Not sure if this should be reason for strong unhappiness.

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Will victor valdes be in anyway part of Man utd in the final version?

Training with a club is not the same as signing them. Offer a trial in game is the equivalent.

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Good stuff so far, looking forward to see how good this gets once it's a little more polished

Pros

- I was against the new UI, but after playing for about 4 hours, I actually quite like it.

- Even though the information is similar, I found it easier to understand my tactic and make tweaks to it.

- The ME seems quite good, barring the aforementioned keeper issue, I liked the 3d however I usually go commentary only so not a major for me personally.

- Player interactions, Media (in the tunnel!) seems enhanced and I quite like it

- I like how I can click on the sections of the Training Happiness pie chart to take me to a list of players who are happy/unhappy/content

- Actually seems quicker at processing days, as stated there is a slight issue with this so I'm keen to see how fast it goes once patched

- Scouting overhaul is going to make challenges like Dafuge's much tougher, which is a welcome addition

- Remove & Exclude in the contract negotiations. Brilliant, I can finally stop players asking for a minimum release fee clause :)

Cons :-

- I had a crash (raised in the appropriate forum)

- This one is a tad difficult to explain, however - When watching the game in commentary only, with the overview screen up, if we score, the goal update is added to the Latest Score's panel, before the commentary has involved me of a goal. The difference is about .5 of a second but is very noticeable. Additionally, if I score a goal that is offside, it doesn't show on the Latest Score's panel, so I know if a goal is ruled out or not, not major but does subtract from the immersion & suspense at times.

- Tactics screen could do with some work, I quite liked being able to drag players to their positions and find that the drop down menu slows the process down.

- When in-match, if I want to make a substitution, when dragging the sub from the list of subs, to the player I want him to replace, there is a lag on the number icon, it lags behind my cursor

- News screen needs work, it seems out of place compared to all other screens, it's basically the same as last years edition and is way to bright and feels cluttered. If you insist on keeping the coloured boxes, perhaps separate them more

Overall, a very good Beta release :)

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Training with a club is not the same as signing them. Offer a trial in game is the equivalent.
wonder will he be on trial already at the club

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wonder will he be on trial already at the club

Don't think he will, if I remember right anything under a short term loan won't be in the game.

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Game looks great, but as a Norwegian i really miss the Strømsgodset wonderkid, Martin Ødegaard! He should be in the game.

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You're wrongly assuming they only started yesterday. I would imagine that in-house testing is well ahead of the public beta on this one.

Oh, I'm sure. But SI's track record of not having match engine issues persist through the first three or more months of launch is, uh, less than stellar. I appreciate it's a very finicky process with a crazy amount of interrelatedness and knock-on effects, but every year there are appreciable issues on launch day that don't get resolved until the second or third major patch.

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Raise the issue on our bugs forum here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/422-Interaction-Conversations-Team-Meetings

But players will react badly if they've seen you sell someone they view as a hot prospect for the club.

Really? As a Man Utd fan I don't remember a crisis within the club whey they've let Pogba go. One could make a case that the opposite happened.

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Early impressions are good. However an existing bug from fm14 still exists - the customisable menus still do not work when you try to add columns. Quite often it takes a lot of patience to get all of the columns to view, and often it proves impossible to show some of them.

Hopefully this will get sorted.

It wasn't just FM14. In pretty much every FM I can remember, adjusting columns was a risky business with sudden mouse acceleration and columns disappearing into other columns. In this version, it seems that once a column has gone off the screen to the right, you don't get the resizing cursor to drag it out again, like you could in previous versions.

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The new UI is just incredibly frustrating, worst for me is the opposition instructions page where now I need to assign instructions such as Closing Down/Tackling 1 by 1 where before I could just highlight using Ctrl/Shift and be done with in about 3 clicks. Oh and the team selection frustrations which have been mentioned by other people above.

Another annoying thing is when you go to the drop-down calendar and try to click on the arrow to Go Holiday or whatever, the box keeps snapping back and forth sometimes before letting you click it. :rolleyes:

Also, the scrollboxes no longer let you change their contents by scroll the mouse-wheel over them.

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Game looks great, but as a Norwegian i really miss the Strømsgodset wonderkid, Martin Ødegaard! He should be in the game.

He's under 16 so can't be included. Should be in next year.

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Really? As a Man Utd fan I don't remember a crisis within the club whey they've let Pogba go. One could make a case that the opposite happened.

Because you're privy to everything that happens within the club?

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He's under 16 so can't be included. Should be in next year.

Why not? He should still be added.. He´s a international player for Norway, plays in the Euro qualifier, but is to young for FM? :/

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