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I played a 100 games with MU and I am surprised that I saw probably 2 goals from direct free kicks. In real life they happen much more often; e.g. English Premier League has 30-40 free kick goals every season (190 games).

There are two problems: there are not enough free kicks, and players can't kick well. In real life, good free kick takers convert 20% and more of direct free kicks; Yaya Toure has 80% conversion rate. http://talksport.com/football/toure-and-rooney-beat-suarez-premier-leagues-top-10-free-kick-conversion-rates-14012376923?p=9

In the game my RVP (highest FK skill in the team) converted no more than 10%.

what's your observation?

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Toure's conversion rate of 80% is actually only four goals from five freekicks hardly a suitable sample size.

This season the Premiership saw 39 goals from 486 attempted direct freekicks which is a conversion rate of 8%. This is an increase from 5.5% in 2012/13 (32 from 577) & 5.25% in 2011/12 (29 from 553).

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Toure's conversion rate of 80% is actually only four goals from five freekicks hardly a suitable sample size.

This season the Premiership saw 39 goals from 486 attempted direct freekicks which is a conversion rate of 8%. This is an increase from 5.5% in 2012/13 (32 from 577) & 5.25% in 2011/12 (29 from 553).

Agree, that's not the best example. Best ever at free kicks - Juninho Pernambucano - has astonishing conversion rate of approximately 60% in his entire career though.

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Toure's conversion rate of 80% is actually only four goals from five freekicks hardly a suitable sample size.

This season the Premiership saw 39 goals from 486 attempted direct freekicks which is a conversion rate of 8%. This is an increase from 5.5% in 2012/13 (32 from 577) & 5.25% in 2011/12 (29 from 553).

thanks for the stats! Where did you get it from?

Also, I believe these 486 "direct freekicks" include all of them, including from own half. If you limit to those within 30 meters you'll get better conversion numbers.

Anyway, FM has much lower amount of attempted direct freekicks, and lower conversion.

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thanks for the stats! Where did you get it from?

Also, I believe these 486 "direct freekicks" include all of them, including from own half. If you limit to those within 30 meters you'll get better conversion numbers.

Anyway, FM has much lower amount of attempted direct freekicks, and lower conversion.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/05/13/dv-who-is-the-premier-leagues-best-free-kick-taker/

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thanks for the stats! Where did you get it from?

Also, I believe these 486 "direct freekicks" include all of them, including from own half. If you limit to those within 30 meters you'll get better conversion numbers.

Anyway, FM has much lower amount of attempted direct freekicks, and lower conversion.

They include direct free kicks that are shots on goal. Any direct free kick taken as a cross or pass becomes indirect and is therefore not counted. You cant just limit them to shots within a certain range. If its a direct shot on goal it has to be counted.

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They include direct free kicks that are shots on goal. Any direct free kick taken as a cross or pass becomes indirect and is therefore not counted. You cant just limit them to shots within a certain range. If its a direct shot on goal it has to be counted.

ok, if so then I'm surprised that the completion is so low.

Anyway the matter of fact is that FM is far far away from having 486 freekick shot on goal a season.

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As LFC then Wolfsburg (spelling) my 1st team scores on average 5+ goals from FKs a game from memory.

Now back at LFC for a 2nd time. I will keep checking the stats through the season and repost here

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Playing in Northern Ireland, goals from free kicks are common. Very common. Of course, the keepers are terrible and that has something to do with it. But, if you want to see goal after goal from free kicks, head on over to Belfast.

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ok, if so then I'm surprised that the completion is so low.

Anyway the matter of fact is that FM is far far away from having 486 freekick shot on goal a season.

I have no idea about the number of shots on goal, but the number scored seems to be fine in my saves. The last season in my save saw 37 goals scored from free kick, 2 down on RL.

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Do Man U even have a freekick specialist in game?

I had Sergio Canales for a couple of years and ever few months he'd win goal of the month with a free kick.

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What I want to know is why the game has this thing where players shoot from a free kick which is practically inside their own half and then, rather than easily catch it, my keeper knocks it over the bar for a corner. It happens so often and is very frustrating when I'm trying to prevent corners. I almost never see it happen in real life too. All the other team need to get a corner is a long range free kick.

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I am convinced that the penalty attribute is completely and utterly worthless. While doing some research on that, I have instructed my GK to take my free-kicks as well as penalties.

Historically I scored very few direct free-kicks and now my GK regularly(ish) scores them. (Regularly(ish) being defined at 5+ a season). While this is more than I have ever managed with players with significantly better free-kick attributes, (not the same as players who are better at free-kicks), it might be skewed by the fact that his free-kick attribute is currently at 9. As free-kick attribute "weighting" is free, I have just this minute set his individual training to free-kick heavy. I don't think his free-kick attribute has always been that high and in fact it was..... just checked and it was 8 when I reported GK's pen and free-kick ability as a bug.

He's not scoring loads, but nobody else I have ever had was scoring loads either, (even those with free-kicks at 19 or 20).

SI insist that there is nothing in the ME that will give an advantage to a GK shooting, (or any other position for that matter), (and I believe them), but they remain strangely silent on how players with such poor levels of these attributes can significantly outperform players with much higher attributes.

If the penalty attribute is proved not to be a major factor in determining the outcome of a penalty, (I think I have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that this is the case), then I wonder if the same might be said of free-kicks and the free-kick attribute.

While penalties and free-kicks not being "weighted" for GK's works well for me, it certainly won't be working well for others. basically the value of any penalty/free-kick attribute is just wasted PA for players who have these attributes weighted.

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It always seems like more direct free kicks should be scored in game, but having regularly attended real life matches for a long time I know the disappointment of a fluffed free kick is something that is felt way more than the joy of seeing one hit the back of the net.

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I had a player that scored 8-10 in a season (all comps). He scored 3-4 against very poor opposition in the cup but the rest were against normal opposition and above. Before him and at a different club I had a player that regularly scored 4-6 direct freekicks a season. I play a very attacking style so generally get a lot of freekicks.

Sometimes it's better off seeing in the ME how players take them. I've had players with very high freekick attribute completely sky shots constantly. Of course other attributes come into play but I've found the best throughout my FM experience to be deep lying and advanced playmakers. They normally have the required attributes to compliment the freekick one.

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