Anti Spiral Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I was at Watfords training ground yesterday, didn't know the England team were about to be there, they kept that quiet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Really annoyed the second England game is at 2pm on a Thursday. What's the betting some knob at work ruins the score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Really annoyed the second England game is at 2pm on a Thursday. What's the betting some knob at work ruins the score It'll be extremely tough to avoid the result. Can't you book it off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not sure to be honest . Started a new job three weeks ago and I'm contracted via agency. They do have flexi time though so I could ask if I work up the time could I have it off. Seems a bit flimsy to say "I want time off to watch the football" but I could say my family is having a party for it or something lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If they don't wheel a TV in and let everybody watch it then it's not the right job tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Start questioning the boss now on how much he/she is into football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Too late now ffs. Should be one of the standard interview questions. "Tell me, what is your policy on time off at short notice for cup replays?" "Do you close the office altogether during World Cups or does everyone have to come in and watch it on a big screen?" Et cetera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'm contacting and feel iffy about taking time off but sod it, I'll happily take the financial hit for this one, there's no way I'm sitting at my desk trying to watch it while Dave from engineering tries to come over and chat about the weekly start-up time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I booked off the days of the England games (apart the Sat game obviously) at start of the year. As soon as I was allowed to book up holidays I did it. Even the evening game. Enjoy beers all day before that game. Hopefully more enjoyable the WC14. Booked the day off well in advance with my mate for the Costa Rica game. Still went and watched it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just found out I can work the time up and leave early. My shift finishes at 4pm anyway so it's only two hours in the week I have to work extra. Luckily I live about ten minutes away. Result! Thankfully it's only the one 2pn kickoff in the week for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone know what time we can expect an announcement before tonight's squad deadline? I presume there is a proper press conference, rather than Hodge just firing off an email to UEFA in secret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted May 31, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 31, 2016 Around 3pm apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Yung Rash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Drinkwater, Townsend and Delph cut then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Better than Townsend and England aren't playing with wingers. Should go instead of him. Gizzy knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Massively disappointed that Townsend has been cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Drinkwater We're going balls out attack it seems. Glad Townsend's been dropped, don't know how such a limited average player can draw so much praise. That defence is weak as ****: 2 standard RBs, 2 LBs, and 3CB's with 1 who's going to start at DM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Rashford \o/, obviously Roy thinks he'll do a better job on the wing that Townsend if required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Woy clearly sees Wilshere as Dier's backup DM. Leaves us awfully short if we get a CM and a Dier injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Rashford \o/, obviously Roy thinks he'll do a better job on the wing that Townsend if required. Which is insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hodgson is pretty dumb tbh. Taking another mis-balanced squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 James Milner with the no.4 shirt is a bit weird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 James Milner with the no.4 shirt is a bit weird First thing I noticed Hopefully doesn't mean anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 He must see the wide roles as being striker roles rather than winger roles. He's basically trying to replace Welbeck when such a player doesnt exist unfortunately. Welbeck so underrated in that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'd have taken Drinkwater over Henderson/Barkley myself, otherwise pretty happy with the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Lallana with number 8 ahead of all the centre mids also feels a strong indicator that he's going to be a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 He must see the wide roles as being striker roles rather than winger roles. He's basically trying to replace Welbeck when such a player doesnt exist unfortunately. Welbeck so underrated in that role. We have more than enough depth there, really should have taken another central midfielder instead of Rashford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 He must see the wide roles as being striker roles rather than winger roles. He's basically trying to replace Welbeck when such a player doesnt exist unfortunately. Welbeck so underrated in that role. Yeh put that in the other thread. Welbeck missing is hurting England, and the flexibility Hodgson has in the squad. He's been left between having to pick a genuine winger or a striker shoehorned into a wide role. Rather than a wide forward who can play central. England don't really have many of them. Walcott maybe the only other one, and he doesn't do it for England like Welbeck does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So now we have one winger (an out-of-form Sterling) and 5 strikers. Hodgson logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Walcott has been such utter rot for the last year that he's just not a viable option sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We have more than enough depth there' date=' really should have taken another central midfielder instead of Rashford.[/quote']Really? Who? I see Sterling, Vardy and Rashford. Who else is going to play in the wide positions if he wants 4-3-3? Take Rashford out for a central midfielder and you have two. An injury to one of those two means Hodgson can't go 4-3-3. Keep in mind you need to look at it as Hodgson sees it, so not Lallana, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hopefully, Drinkwater stays in with a shout of being back in the squad for the Quals. Easy option to drop the newcomer to the squad. I think we all over anticipated exactly how much Hodgson likes Townsend, thought he was set on him. I don't mind him missing out Good to see Rashford in there, I'd definitely not be shy of putting him on the pitch, not just there for 'the experience'. Decent forward options, now to crowbar them wide and out of position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Can't believe we are going with just one holding mid. When it's an area we've been destroyed in time and again at tournaments. Dier now has to stay fit, not lose any form and play almost every minute while doing so. Ludicrous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Really? Who? I see Sterling, Vardy and Rashford. Who else is going to play in the wide positions if he wants 4-3-3? Take Rashford out for a central midfielder and you have two. An injury to one of those two means Hodgson can't go 4-3-3.Keep in mind you need to look at it as Hodgson sees it, so not Lallana, for example. I think he sees Sturridge as wide striker as well. tbh I think if anything this gives clear indication he wants 4-1-2-1-2 to be our main tactic. Hence Lallana getting 8 as he sees him as one of the attacking mids, and Milner getting 4 as he sees him as one of the DMs. Or I could be reading way too much into the numbers. But the 4 for Milner and 8 for Lallana does seem weird until you think of it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Really? Who? I see Sterling, Vardy and Rashford. Who else is going to play in the wide positions if he wants 4-3-3? Take Rashford out for a central midfielder and you have two. An injury to one of those two means Hodgson can't go 4-3-3.Keep in mind you need to look at it as Hodgson sees it, so not Lallana, for example. I think Hodgson would play Lallana tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Personally I'd have had Drinkwater over Wilshere. Drinkwater deserves it after the season he's had and has played well in the games he's had for England. Considering how shakey our defence is I'm not against him starting alongside Dier protecting the back 4 in potential tough knockout games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Really? Who? I see Sterling, Vardy and Rashford. Who else is going to play in the wide positions if he wants 4-3-3? Take Rashford out for a central midfielder and you have two. An injury to one of those two means Hodgson can't go 4-3-3.Keep in mind you need to look at it as Hodgson sees it, so not Lallana, for example. If he's taken Rashford as a wide forward option then he's pretty dumb. He's a central striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think he sees Sturridge as wide striker as well. tbh I think if anything this gives clear indication he wants 4-1-2-1-2 to be our main tactic. Hence Lallana getting 8 as he sees him as one of the attacking mids. Yeah, not loving the 4-3-3 options, don't want Vardy there anyway but wouldn't surprise me Lallana there, Milner too. Hasn't he done that before? Shame Welbeck isn't around and just no to Walcott atm Sterling did ok the other day but he doesn't fill me with confidence, especially in front of goal. Just don't see goals in Sterling (or our midfield in general). As he gets near goal he's always looking to lay it off. See him on the edge of the box and he's looking for a pass. Barkley will go for goal, Townsend too and we got Alli (nailed on sending off then ) Meh, squad's fine really *shrugs* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think Hodgson would play Lallana tbh I don't. His words in post-game interviews and his choices all point towards pace. He wants guys who can run in the wide areas, and Lallana just doesn't offer that threat. The lack of tactically flexible players is one of the issues Hodgson faces. Not much he can do there. Vardy and Rashford can play wide and central, but it's not the same as Welbeck being able to play wide and central. You look at the squad, there aren't many multidimensional players. Or whatever word you want to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Pathetic from Hodgson. Townsend and Drinkwater should both be in based on form. Picked on reputation as per usual. Wilshere will be lucky to play more than about 50% of minutes, that's if he doesnt get crocked in training and miss out altogether. Sterling and Lallana both look garbage at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If he's taken Rashford as a wide forward option then he's pretty dumb. He's a central striker. I agree, but see my other post in response to Razzler. When you don't have players who can play both roles reasonably well, you have to pick a specialist (Townsend) or a guy who can do a job there (Rashford, and Vardy too). It's like having guys who can play fullback and central defence well. The way the full-back role has become so important means these guys aren't as common now, and are probably more suited to wingers who can drop back than central defenders who can move wide, but go back four years or so and players like this (CB/FB combo defenders) were so valuable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Drinkwater is the one I really can't understand. Should be nailed on for the squad and in with a shout of starting, but instead we're taking 5 strikers?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Unfortunately our biggest weakness looks to be yet again our manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We shouldn't be playing 4-3-3, without Welbeck and Chamberlain (though he was out of form anyway) we don't have options good enough. We should be setting up for a diamond, and we really need Drinkwater to help shore up an already porous defence. Rashford shouldnt be anywhere near the wing either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Enjoyed Baptista moaning about Hodgson in at least 3 different posts since the squad was announced, we get it pal. Squad is fine. Would rather see Townsend in over Barkley but that's a small gripe. Drinkwater is just ok, so can fully understand why he isn't in the squad. England don't have a Kante to make him look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 so 4 players covering three spots (2 CBs and a DM). crazy. and 5 central forwards none of whom are great on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 Wilshere over Drinkwater is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Drinkwater is the one I really can't understand. Should be nailed on for the squad and in with a shout of starting, but instead we're taking 5 strikers?! Not just the forwards, top heavy in attacking mids too. Unbalanced. This squad smacks of a manger who still hasn't decided how he wants to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't. His words in post-game interviews and his choices all point towards pace. He wants guys who can run in the wide areas, and Lallana just doesn't offer that threat.The lack of tactically flexible players is one of the issues Hodgson faces. Not much he can do there. Vardy and Rashford can play wide and central, but it's not the same as Welbeck being able to play wide and central. You look at the squad, there aren't many multidimensional players. Or whatever word you want to use. Yes, I agree I don't think (hope) there won't be so much 4-3-3 going around based on this squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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