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for some reason whenever i boot this up, it loads into FM2010 and not 14.. Anyone else having that problem?

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I've just tested this tactic for 9 games, having used my preseason to train it up to about 75% fluidity; this is, despite all the praise that it receives, one of the worst tactics I have ever used. I've won 2 in 9 and it just doesn't seem to work at all for me, and I'm really at my wits end about how to solve this issue.

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It's worked very well for me

Won the Northern Irish league three times in a row with the team predicted to finish 10th then 3rd then 3rd

Very good tactic, thanks very much for allowing me to enjoy this success.

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tilling are u using any match prep or any instructions ????

If you are DONT. Only change i made is with the corners. Didnt like the low amount of results i got from the corners.

Been using it since this season started (whitehawk season 20/21 first season in L1, with not to good of players) and so far i am a title challenger.

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Tried this tactic but was a bit hit and mis but i tinkered around with players positions a little and seemed to have dropped onto something i started a new save with the revised tactic and my results and performances have been nothing short of superb, will keep testing a while and will upload if the OP has no problems with me doing so.

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Getting mixed results still , will go on an amazing run unbeaten and then it goes wrong for a few games , still cant complain as i'm top of the league with 3 games to go (not bad considering I played to christmas with transfers disabled and only signed a few squad players during the January transfer window as that was all the funds I had available).

Only annoying point is that i will randomly lose to teams a lot worse than me, I was on an amazing unbeaten run and then came up against Sunderland who were 19th and got beat 3-1. I put this down to the local rivalry etc. but my team played really bad. Then I beat Liverpool who were 3rd and then lost to Fulham who were 15th 3-1 again playing really badly.

I dont count getting knocked out of both cups at 1st games because I fielded a lot of youth players to rest my 1st team, as i have a very small squad.

How is everyones front man doing using this tactic? mine (Remy) has only scored 9 goals for entire season.

But as I said being Newcastle with no super signings and being top of the league this is a very good tactic.

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Well I have tried out many tactics with my beloved Boro, the good ones take me up to the Premeirship but none , bar one, has managed to keep me there. So regardless how it goes in the first season, the proof of the pudding is next season. Still I'm enjoying it so far. Can't post pictures here for some reason so:-

Ply 10 W 10 D 0 L 0 32-4 (this includes 6 friendlies and 1 cup match) Looking very good so far :cool:

Exactly the same wit my Stockport team. Just to forewarn you this tactic like all before has just taken me to an unbelievably shocking relegation again. It really is getting to the point of waiting for FM15 and hoping for more luck. I have downloaded various tactics as well as using my own, and the limit is The Championship. i can't even compete in the Premier League no matter what. Sorry Steaton, it may be great for some but for small clubs hitting the big time this won't do it in my opinion.

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The tactic is sublime at times. Creates chances, lots of goals, neat passing play. My only grumbles are the inside forwards and the complacency shown in some of the games. I played Tottenham and won 2-0 away, then played Liverpool and won 2-1 away, played Chelsea at home and won 5-0, played Wigan at home and won 4-0 then it came to Norwich with the same lineup and drew 1-1 then lost away at Bournmouth 2-0. Morale was still high and the team talks are done the same way more often than not.

Tips for the inside forwards would be great. The game just seems to pass these two by in my squad, low ratings all the time and never seem to score, chip in with the odd assist from a cross to the AMC from time to time, but not much else to brag about.

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Tips for the inside forwards would be great. The game just seems to pass these two by in my squad, low ratings all the time and never seem to score, chip in with the odd assist from a cross to the AMC from time to time, but not much else to brag about.

I have the opposite problem here, with my newcastle team my wingers/inside forwards are the ones scoring all the goals , its my main striker that seems to go missing in 80% of the games.

Remy's Stats for this season are,

Played 36

Goals 9

Av Rating 6.59

Marveaux Left Wing/inside forward

Played 34

Goals 14

Av Rating 7.29

Gouffran Right Wing/inside forward

Played 31

Goals 12

Av Rating 7.11

Ben Arfa AMC

Played 9

Goals 11

Av Rating 8.43

Sissoko AMC (because Ben Arfa got a broken leg)

Played 27

Goals 13

Av Rating 7.82

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is it at 100% for u all yet??

i tend to find they only work once 100% fluid

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Even at 100% u get odd results.

Loss 1-0 to Oxford with 3x the shots. and 60-40 possesion. wish i knew an easy way to give Steaton the PKMs i have.

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So far using this tactic I am in the summer transfer window at the beginning of the 2016-2017 season and so far with Leyton Orient I have won back to back promotions and then finished 12th in my first season in the BPL and reached the semi finals of the Europa league Great tactic!

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"Dude I got sacked from Monaco too twice - that fuinny -before I used this tactic I was using Invincibles I think - wouldn't matter - one you go near the edge with them they will fall off - but second time I pleayed with them I knew not to buy many new players and be un assumiming and reassuring and to go all out on Team Coheasion and teamwork forget fitness or tactics, the reason is you start with the least coheshion is is possible to ever have in FM they have basically just changed all the players and maybe staff to so kno one knows what the hell is going on its a mad house, I don't know if it's true to real life bu imaging joing a team where everyone is new and there no one who knows the ropes you turn and look at each other wonddering what the **** is going on - and thats before you buy your own players. Ridiculous money after first sesason tohugh buy a player for 200m no problem." - Hopefully they have modelling this well - if so be assertive and pleaseant, mild team talks for the shaky first 10 games hoping to notdroptoo many points that you are sliding so fast youarepulledof the edge.

Approached by 11th spot Ligue 2 contender Lens and with your tactic, finished 8th scoring 27 goals and conceding 17 in the last 13 matches I was brought in for.

Let's see how it will be working out in the next full season.

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Well .......

1st Season ... Champions by 6 Points :D

2nd Season ... £62m Spent on strengthening the squad (specifically picked for tactic roles)

December 11th 2014, After losing to Stoke 16th in the league 4-0 at home, I have been escorted from St James Park and chucked in the back of a taxi.

Final Stats for season - P15 W3 D5 L7 GF 22 GA 29.

I have seen a tactic played against me by Arsenal (a game which I lost 2-0) looks like this

_____ST____ST______

________AM__________

W______CM________W

________DM__________

____DC__DC__DC_____

________GK__________

Anyone seen this before? 1st time i've seen it, so as soon as i get a job im gonna try and work it out, looks interesting and i've always liked the look of 2 strikers.

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v2 Posted

Think is much better as some settings werenot consistent on the wingers and attacking mentality.

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v2 Posted

Think is much better as some settings werenot consistent on the wingers and attacking mentality.

That isn't allowing me to access it mate. Any ideas?

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v2 Posted

Think is much better as some settings werenot consistent on the wingers and attacking mentality.

Now the inside forwards have no player instructions, i.e. the cross from deep has gone. Does this mean that the AML should have be right footed now ? Normal inside forwards should have opposite foot preference to the wing they are on, but in v1 you said you recommended left footers on the left wing for example.

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Now the inside forwards have no player instructions, i.e. the cross from deep has gone. Does this mean that the AML should have be right footed now ? Normal inside forwards should have opposite foot preference to the wing they are on, but in v1 you said you recommended left footers on the left wing for example.

How did you get the tactic? I just see an icon in his post that I can't do anything with :confused:

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How did you get the tactic? I just see an icon in his post that I can't do anything with :confused:

Link updated, should work now.

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Link updated, should work now.

Steaton - will there be much of a difference between this V2 and the original Total Annihilation? The reason I ask is because I have used TA for about 10 matches with Man City and the results were pretty bad!

Also the right centre mid in the new tactic is now an AP, is this correct?

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Link updated, should work now.

Sorry for being thick here, but is it updated in the OP as I can't do anything with the one in your post above. Thanks

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Steaton - will there be much of a difference between this V2 and the original Total Annihilation? The reason I ask is because I have used TA for about 10 matches with Man City and the results were pretty bad!

Also the right centre mid in the new tactic is now an AP, is this correct?

Yes that's correct and I think it is quite a bit better yes, this is how I had it originally so it has been tested more thouroughly, guess I got some amazing result when changing the wingers and mentality but time shows it to be a bit flaky. Probably should not have published with the latest least tested tweaks included, v2 I think is the one to try.

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Since switching to V2 fully geled. (Currently managing RB Leipzig in Bundesliga)

Played: 6. Wins: 0 D: 0 L: 6. 2 - 12.

Version 1 worked a lot better. Gonna stick to that.

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Since switching to V2 fully geled. (Currently managing RB Leipzig in Bundesliga)

Played: 6. Wins: 0 D: 0 L: 6. 2 - 12.

Version 1 worked a lot better. Gonna stick to that.

Wow 6 losses - i start new game with Arsenal my friend new to FM i show him game. But I win every game except one away to everton 1-3 away but other 19 games won easily.

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Steaton, not sure why you removed v1, it got my Hull City team 6th spot in the first season, only just started season 2 and got off to a great start. Just thought i'd mention how good i'm doing with v1 as i've seen your apology in the opening post.

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I just wanted to make sure people knew how to see team cohesion, the one in confidence screen is not useful this one is:

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where do u see the Team Cohesion in the screen???? Nvm that was before the 2nd post got done.

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where do u see the Team Cohesion in the screen???? Nvm that was before the 2nd post got done.
I aint got the game loaded so going off the top of my head here, it's in Reports, then Last Match, then click on Teamtalk feeback

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Try Squad > Reports > Last Game > Teamtalk Feedback and it should show the screen that Steaton has shown. Cohesion is very very very important.

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Wow 6 losses - i start new game with Arsenal my friend new to FM i show him game. But I win every game except one away to everton 1-3 away but other 19 games won easily.

Yeah 4 home games during the try-out period also. (I know its not a lot of games but still, not a single win?)

However, gonna give it another try with a full pre-season behind it and see if it could be better.

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Steaton and I just tested 3 different tactics on the same game.

results from it being:

V1. draw 1-1

V2. Loss 5-2

My tactic. Loss 3-0

So yeah def gonna stick with that atm, made some role changes looking to see if they work or not.

What i can tell is that it seems to work quite good for LOWER league teams. Being Whitehawk in 20/21 topping L1 after newly being promoted.

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Well I know you are player a lower team up against tougher opposition - for me with a superior team I feel v2 is getting more reliable wins more consistently. But this does make sense since it is more attacking.

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So everyone - I have found an exploit/bug in the tactics engine that makes it so that the entire game is played in the opponents half with you in posession (shooting 40-50 times but only scoring 1 or 2 lucky) - 0% posession for either team in your third of the pitch, 0 shots every time for the opposition, a bug. I am not going to tell or make a tactic out of this but if there are any mods on will fill be willing to report as a bug, cheers.

I tried one thing and the result was very strange clearly this isnot just getting the best out of a tactic,fortunately it is so obscure that only luck or a brute force testing approach would have any chance of picking it up. (Bit or spotting someting wierd by luck and then adjusting and bang!).

Why don't you just upload this :thup:

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No I don't like this kind of exploit so you want it you got to figure it out for yourself. Sorry, besides it aint gonna work as an alternative tactic as it has other knock on effects.

Edit: I shoulda said this using milder language sorry no offence intended, but I can not risk spoiling fans fun and so no I can not share it in good faith I mean did anyone really want the corner explots inprevious versions? I certainly didnt we had to add rules to our multiplayer games to prevent is use.

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No I don't like this kind of exploit so you want it you got to figure it out for yourself. Sorry, besides it aint gonna work as an alternative tactic as it has other knock on effects.

The thing is, why mention on this thread that you have found an exploit then not bother to tell any of us??? I know you said you were going to post it in the bugs forum, but I just thought it was strange that you bragged about finding this miraculous exploit then never bother with it.

Also I have tried all you tactics here and non of them have worked for me. Started a new game with Man City and used Total Annihilation and the new V2, and with both I was conceding around 2 goals on average a game, drawing with the likes of Norwich 3-3 and getting battered by Chelsea 3-2 and Man UTD 3-1. Sorry to say that none of the tactics worked for Man City, but then I haven't found a single tactic this year that you can plug and plug successfully with.

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The thing is, why mention on this thread that you have found an exploit then not bother to tell any of us??? I know you said you were going to post it in the bugs forum, but I just thought it was strange that you bragged about finding this miraculous exploit then never bother with it.

I think it's actually very admirable of Steaton to not push any potential "exploit" out into the wider community. I see no value in having any loophole exploited, and wholeheartedly praise Steaton for logging whatever the bug may be, in order to further tighten the ME.

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I think it's actually very admirable of Steaton to not push any potential "exploit" out into the wider community. I see no value in having any loophole exploited, and wholeheartedly praise Steaton for logging whatever the bug may be, in order to further tighten the ME.

I'm not criticising him for reporting it, I just feel he should not of mentioned it on this thread when people are looking for a plug and play tactic.

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anyone experienced total domination in domestic competitions and then being inoffensive in champions league?

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I think if your looking for exploits, your looking in the wrong GAME period. Your better off in a FPS since they have plenty of them.

Steaton wanted to make the community and SI aware that there are exploits to find and he handled it like any other should do (most of them wouldn't though).

+1 for Steaton.

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I'm not criticising him for reporting it, I just feel he should not of mentioned it on this thread when people are looking for a plug and play tactic.

I counldn't agree more - was just a momentary lapse - my bad!

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