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Some angles look worse than others....still borderline and should be avoided at the cup.

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Some good performances for a supposed second string and a run out game...actually feel quite pleased with what I saw there in places.

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People saying it would have never broken his leg are deluded, look at this frame just before he gets his standing leg off the ground. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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It was not even a yellow though and Sterling should get a knighthood. :lol:

The initial studs up which missed and then that follow through. :herman:

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Please don't let this be the injury that rules a player out :(

Looking like it could be ligament damage. Really hope it's just a strain or something, but even something like that could be 2-3 weeks which would rule him out of the group stages and possibly last 16 still :(

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hope its nothing with ox. i'd start him in the centre as he's one of the few in the team that can actually win the ball back in a vital area. him henderson and gerrard for me with the 2 most forward capable of making late runs in to the box with or without the ball.

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would never have broken his leg ffs :D my word

You never know, it's not always the hardest tackles that send players to the football-morgue

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Was Milner playing RB?

Started there yeah, then moved to right wing when Ox was subbed and then ended left wing when Lallana came on after the red card.

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People saying it should clearly be a red card or you crazy and others it clearly shouldn't be a red otherwise you are mental just shows how impossible it is to be a ref.

p.s. clear red going at real speed the first time you saw it. What a freeze frame shows at a certain angle is pointless until we get robot refs.

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Seems like Ox may be out of World Cup.

Who's next in line to replace him from a winger perspective?

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People saying it should clearly be a red card or you crazy and others it clearly shouldn't be a red otherwise you are mental just shows how impossible it is to be a ref.

p.s. clear red going at real speed the first time you saw it. What a freeze frame shows at a certain angle is pointless until we get robot refs.

agree with this. People so binary in their views nowadays. One extreme or another constantly.

Was a stupid tackle for a friendly

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Nobody. Our reserves are Stones, Flanagan, Carrick, Cleverley, Defoe and Carroll. Jeez. After seeing Smalling I'd probably take Stones and take a punt on one less winger

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Reckon will be that as Milner will be used more as a winger then RB, where he was not good at tonight.

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Seems like Ox may be out of World Cup.

Who's next in line to replace him from a winger perspective?

Carrick?

I'd rather him than Tom Cleverley.

What strikers are on standby? Defoe? Could take him and just use Welbeck as a winger.

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After watching the total lack of protection of the back 4, if Ox is sadly out, I would take Carrick to cover Gerrard, or form a triangle with Gerrard and one other if needed. Because lampard was nowhere to be seen

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How can we take Carrick when he's not on standby? :confused:

Edit: Just see he is. Would have thought he would have played tonight :/

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Rickie Lambert is seriously good. How fresh did we look with Lambert, Wilshere, Ox and Barkley going forward

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Carrick?

I'd rather him than Tom Cleverley.

What strikers are on standby? Defoe? Could take him and just use Welbeck as a winger.

Welbeck will be used as a winger full stop.

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Yellow card for each was enough there.

What?! Grabbing someone round the throat twice isn't a red card? Jesus. Sterling's should have been a booking for being reckless.

Linesman signalling for a Ecuador throw says it all tbh. Clearly doesn't even think it should have been a free kick for Sterlings tackle but looking back a yellow would have been fair.

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p.s. clear red going at real speed the first time you saw it.

So clear the linesman stood next to it gave a throw in?

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Not picking Flanagan was a mistake, looked so assured and positive going forward when he came on. No idea what has happened to Smalling, he has got so bad.

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Think a couple of yellows would have sufficed there. Tackle didn't look a red, nor did Valencia's reaction. Ref totally wanted the glory there, did you see the way he thrust those red cards into the air?

I wouldn't have given a red for the challenge. Oh no, he caught him ... in football, no less! Jeez, he was trying to win the ball back. Valencia's reaction was totally over the top and I don't think Sterling would have had a red if not for that reaction. It certainly didn't help. He deserved a red for his reaction but I'd have told them both to calm down. It's a friendly, ffs do we need to be chucking reds about?

Yeah, the ref loved that too :D

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Game was generally annoying in that our defence is so ragged. I know it's not our first choice but still. Awful and it cost us. I didn't think Ecuador were all that and I don't think France will quaking in their boots. Should have won the game

Rooney was well happy with that goal, gave it the fist pump. I like Barkely, any big game in the season and each international he's shown he's not scared, he's happy to take responsibility on the ball and to drive forward and I just hope Hodgson isn't afraid to bring players like that on

I think we can end the Milner right back experiment. Shame about Ox, hope he doesn't miss out. Was just saying about waiting for an injury. Wilshere is frustrating. He'll lay a ball off, run and then bump and go to ground. We're either gonna end up with a lot of free kicks or a big whole in midfield. He is constantly on the floor.

I think with the heat against Italy we'll start with Henderson anyway, less risky with the ball

We have some useful weapons on the bench, some youth and speed but I hope we use them in the right way. I am wondering if we'll start Milner against Italy and bring Sterling off the bench for 30

I hope there are no suspensions for this red card silliness

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BBC reporting Sterling is banned for the final friendly.

Probably the fringe player we could do with seeing most of.

wp Valencia :thup:

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If Valencia had not reacted, it would have been a throw in, simple as that really

Never a Red card, the ref hadn't even given a foul

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Banning for friendlies, wtf :D

Only 2nd England player sent off in a friendly, Trevor Cherry vs Argentina in '77 the first

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It was one of those tackles that you think that was a bit clumsy, then when play goes on its completely forgotten about. If Valencia doesn't react, Ecuador just take their throw and no one even considers it to have been a Red card offence as it isn't ever mentioned again

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