jmr Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Why does P.Clips write like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes · 2m Roy Hodgson confirms #ENG line-up v #CRC tmrw: Foster; Jones, Cahill, Smalling, Shaw; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere; Barkley, Lallana; Sturridge so we wait till we're out to play 4-3-3. good one. Would that be Barkley out wide? If so He's going to get wasted for the next few years, just no it. Also Jones RB? FFS. Play him CB and sub Smalling on later, Jones needs to impress at CB as that'll be his only position not RB! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I think Roy said everyone would get a chance (apart from Ox who's injured), so I wonder whether he's planning on swapping keepers at half time. Although he also said Gerrard would play some part in the game and I would expect Lambert to get a run out, so it remains to be seen whether he'll want to use up a sub on the keeper or just leave one out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperclips Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Why does P.Clips write like that? Why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Just wondering P Dizzle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Dear God Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wright just no words. Incredible thick human being Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTT Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Did Oxlade-Chamberlain and Phil Jones not get pulled out of the last Under 21 international tournament to play a useless friendly against Brazil. Problem with the youngsters is they are not ready for these international tournaments as they pull out of youth team duty, or the manager pulls them out to "protect" them like Wenger did to Jack Wilshere that time.How many of the Germany U21 side that demolished us in 2009 are in their senior side now and look how well they're doing. What a dire England squad that was, only Walcott, Milner and Hart have really come on from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Think that's a bit harsh. They finished runner up. It was such a pretty freakish remarkable German group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wright just no words. Incredible thick human being second that. Better having players that want to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Ian Wright How this man is allowed to air his views is depressing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Dear God Jesus wept. We were talking about players not wanting to play for England etc. Tell you what, if this is the kind of **** we subject them to, is it really any wonder? All this for not getting out of a group we didnt expect them to any way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Someone please tell me that's a photoshop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Not only is Wright right, they should also be forced to donate their entire wages to the families of soldiers What an absolute idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Not only is Wright right, they should also be forced to donate their entire wages to the families of soldiers Had someone post that on Facebook today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-Wool Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 tbh, next time an England player withdraws, we should put them in stocks at the tower of London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Had someone post that on Facebook today For real? There really are no limits, are there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose-Stuff-For-Money Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 It staggers me that Roy can say 'I can't have asked for a better performance', I mean I can only presume he is saying it so not to kick them when they are down, but a dire 0-0 draw with a Costa Rica side already through beggers belief. No pace of passing and little movement again. If this type of outing is what we are ok with then we aren't going to move forward anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 For real? There really are no limits, are there? I wish I was making it up - even done the old side by side picture of England players coming off the plane next to the coffins coming off the military plane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Watching England reminds me so much of Utd last season. Hodgson = Moyes. Get rid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Roy for two more years Subs once again were Tactical genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Foster has more World Cup clean sheets than Hart and Green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Chris Smalling has more World Cup minutes then Kevin Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 1 pt, you guys! You're better than Cameroon and Australia and hopefully one or even two others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morology Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 A famous campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 That game felt like a game in which we needed at least a point to make sure I put in predictions 1-1 but deep down I had a feeling for 0-0, kicking myself It was ... ok but it worries me we lost the habit of winning. We'd always nick a win in nothing games in the past but Ecudaor, Honduras and now Costa Rica (not needing to go mad) and we don't clinch it We really lack goals from midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Though Foster had a really tidy game. Didn't have too much to do, but did it really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I wish I was making it up - even done the old side by side picture of England players coming off the plane next to the coffins coming off the military plane Saw that aswell. Too cringeworthy for words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Though Foster had a really tidy game. Didn't have too much to do, but did it really well. I agree. Showed good hands throughout (for a bloody change!) but he's 31 (?) and will he even be around in 2 to 4 years? Why not play Forster. If we needed a point today to qualify I wouldn't want to see Foster in goal and he'd probably not have caught those crosses either. Fragile as **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Alan Shearer talks as though he was part of some great and successful English football era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Saw that aswell. Too cringeworthy for words. I had to stop myself from posting on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Alan Shearer talks as though he was part of some great and successful English football era Euro 96 was great success by our standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I still cant work out what our game plan was and how we planned to win? The fact that he was so gleeful at the end was just made it even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 how come all these teams come and use pace, are successful, we bring lots of pace and play so slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Need to put the players into a system which plays to their strengths, or conversely use a system which suits the players you select. Simply picking your best eleven players and shoe-horning then into default FOTM formation isn't a guarantee of success. You just need to look at how frequently nations with far fewer resources and a far thinner pool of talent turn up at the same tournament as England and completely out-perform them. The issue's not one of a paucity of talent or ability, it's direction and pragmatism which is lacking. Can not understand why England don't play their best #9 at #9. There's one self-inflicted wound for starters. Italy had England on toast because they realised Baines was going to be horribly exposed with Rooney playing in front of him, so they just gave the ball to Darmian all night knowing he'd have free-reign to bomb up and down the right largely unhindered. In three games I didn't see anything of the same ilk coming from England. Italy aren't a great side, but they were still able to come up with a relatively simple plan to maximise their own strengths and exploit England's weaknesses. England just seem to work on the basis of 'Our 11 > Your 11 = We win' without really giving it any thought beyond that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I thought Shaw and Lallana did alright yesterday. That was it in terms of positives really, though it wasn't a completely dire performance by England. One thing though... Why Phil Jones at RB? I don't see too much of him playing during the season, but surely he's a centre back and nothing else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 We didn't have any other Right Backs to choose from. Regardless, i don't think he is particularly amazing at centre back either. Both him and Smalling need to kick on or they should start to be dropped for the Euro 2016 Qualifying group squads. I thought we did ok yesterday, Hodgson is right that we should have put our chances away and we would have won but we were still pretty conservative. maybe he was just scared of the reaction of if he were to lose all 3 group games. I'm still positive that we can build a young team during the qualifiers, but i'm very wary of the fact we are going to be hoping that some of these players turn out as good as we think they will be. For example if Stones and Flanagan actually turn out to be consistently good players a back 4 of Flanagan-Stones-Cahill-Shaw is an exciting future for England. Beyond that though i think we will have tactical dilemmas for the attacking side of the team, How will we fit Barkley, Rooney and Sturridge in the same team? we can't in the current formation and it would be equally as awkward in a 4-3-3. we'll have to see how it goes and i'm actually looking forward to it... a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 My biggest concern going forward is goals from Midfield. In the past when the attacking lot failed to deliver we use to have players from midfield who were capable of scoring, Beckham/Gerrard/Scholes/Lampard etc. Now we could potentially have like Henderson/Wilshere/Barkley or another CM, and none of them scream goals So it's more pressure on whoever leads the line to deliver and deliver well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 We didn't have any other Right Backs to choose from. Regardless' date=' i don't think he is particularly amazing at centre back either.Both him and Smalling need to kick on or they should start to be dropped for the Euro 2016 Qualifying group squads. I thought we did [i']ok[/i] yesterday, Hodgson is right that we should have put our chances away and we would have won but we were still pretty conservative. maybe he was just scared of the reaction of if he were to lose all 3 group games. I'm still positive that we can build a young team during the qualifiers, but i'm very wary of the fact we are going to be hoping that some of these players turn out as good as we think they will be. For example if Stones and Flanagan actually turn out to be consistently good players a back 4 of Flanagan-Stones-Cahill-Shaw is an exciting future for England. Beyond that though i think we will have tactical dilemmas for the attacking side of the team, How will we fit Barkley, Rooney and Sturridge in the same team? we can't in the current formation and it would be equally as awkward in a 4-3-3. we'll have to see how it goes and i'm actually looking forward to it... a bit. I don't see Flanagan being the answer long term for England. Will be interesting to see how many starts he gets for Liverpool next year. Stones is probably a couple of years away from being ready to play at international level. Barkley can't play consistently in a midfield three right now, but in time he should be able to do it comfortably given the potential he's shown playing further back for Everton at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG17 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Great treatment of Rickie Lambert at the tournament btw. 3 minutes he played. He'd have been the proudest player there and he played 3 ****ing minutes. Anyway I don't think England are that bad off. A few inches the other way in the first two games and we are in a completely different situation. Laughable that Lallana doesn't start by the way. I don't care how biased I am. He's the classest act in the English squad. Need to find a simple and effective CM. One that can compliment Hendersons energy nicely. Genuinely think Jack Cork is a great shout if he plays regularly for Saints next season. I can't think of a better one. England need to stop pandering to individuals and start picking players to do roles in a team. Teams like Chile have players set up to play a role not fitting their system around the players and their reputations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokey1988 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 My biggest concern going forward is goals from Midfield. In the past when the attacking lot failed to deliver we use to have players from midfield who were capable of scoring, Beckham/Gerrard/Scholes/Lampard etc. Now we could potentially have like Henderson/Wilshere/Barkley or another CM, and none of them scream goals So it's more pressure on whoever leads the line to deliver and deliver well. I think Barkley has potential in that department. Better than 1 in 5 in his breakthrough Premiership season, 1 in 3 for Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship. Not Lampard figures of course but not bad for a teenager even if he did play as a #10 for most of it. He's raw as hell though so it's hard to say what kind of player he will turn out to be and whether he will add more goals to his game or end up less direct etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Shearer saying Rooney should be next captain http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28026841 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted June 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 26, 2014 Probably why he's a terrible manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Lallana didn't start because he was nothing but average in the warm-up games and when he came off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Great treatment of Rickie Lambert at the tournament btw. 3 minutes he played. He'd have been the proudest player there and he played 3 ****ing minutes. Unfortunately the team isn't decided by who would be the proudest In England squads down the tournaments it's rare the final striker in the squad get to do much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Lambert should have played the final game though, we know what Sturridge can do and will get plenty of games in the future, same for Rooney. Pretty ****** treatment of lambert in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Like this if you agree!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Did Roy and the Team get a good applause when they returned home? End of the day they got that magnificent one point, more then most people expected... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Saw that on Facebook the other days. Jesus ****ing Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Great treatment of Rickie Lambert at the tournament btw. 3 minutes he played. He'd have been the proudest player there and he played 3 ****ing minutes. Anyway I don't think England are that bad off. A few inches the other way in the first two games and we are in a completely different situation. Laughable that Lallana doesn't start by the way. I don't care how biased I am. He's the classest act in the English squad. Need to find a simple and effective CM. One that can compliment Hendersons energy nicely. Genuinely think Jack Cork is a great shout if he plays regularly for Saints next season. I can't think of a better one. England need to stop pandering to individuals and start picking players to do roles in a team. Teams like Chile have players set up to play a role not fitting their system around the players and their reputations. Contradiction? If we need to start building for the team first, why should Lallana start necessarily? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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