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Update from my West Ham save (2022):

After getting promoted to the Premier League and winning the FA Cup in my first season with the Hammers I thought I had improved the team a lot during the offseason, making it ready for the Premiership. However, we've lost the first 4 games of the season and are now dead last in the table. Morale is down after a humiliating 4-1 loss at Swansea. Media predicted us to finish 13th so it's time to get back on track and start winning.

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Update from my West Ham save (2022):

After getting promoted to the Premier League and winning the FA Cup in my first season with the Hammers I thought I had improved the team a lot during the offseason, making it ready for the Premiership. However, we've lost the first 4 games of the season and are now dead last in the table. Morale is down after a humiliating 4-1 loss at Swansea. Media predicted us to finish 13th so it's time to get back on track and start winning.

You'll pull it round. I'd get general training on team cohesion if you haven't already. Team needs 'gelling'.

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i finished my first season with chelsea in the league only conceding 9 goals all season, thats got to be some sort of record! never managed to do this before. second season isnt going aswell, conceded 7 allready and only in october!

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Finished the Skybet L2 season with Stockport.

Our final position was 2nd, very good for a team predicted to finish last.

Another great season made possible by Mr U Rosler's tactics :)

Next season will be very tough unless we can grab some much better players than our current squad.

We have one player who is good enough for Skybet L1 and couple with potential to be.

Majority of the squad however is purely Skrill material...

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Good success in youth level also.

Stockport U21 will win Group 4, only one match to go and they lead by 6 points.

U18 didn't have as much success though, current position 8th in Group 7. Not any surprise though, the only really good U18 player has been playing the whole season in senior squad.

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You'll pull it round. I'd get general training on team cohesion if you haven't already. Team needs 'gelling'.

I pulled it around indeed. Had a team meeting to boost morale. Went on an underdog winning streak beating Chelsea, Liverpool & Tottenham in three straight matches. After half of the season (19 games) we're currently 9th (media suggestion: 13th). Considering we've lost the first 4 games and were dead last this is quite a turnaround. Now hoping to have a good spring and maybe sneak into European Qualification places.

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I just lost my 8th game on the bounce using the S&S/Rainmaker combo as Milan and was fired.

I'm not sure what happened as I started off great culminating in a 6-0 tonking of Roma but after that it all just went to hell in a handbasket.

Morale plummeted and I couldn't pick it up, no matter what teamtalk I gave it just went red with them all 'Didn't seem to be listening'.

I'm going to restart it again and see if there was something glaring that I missed.

Also the same old problem of loads of shots and a good amount of missed CCC's reared up again too.

I do really like this tactic so not giving up just yet :)

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The fullbacks are becoming a serious, serious problem for me in this tactic. They refuse to make any tackles and get skinned all day long for easy crosses. They're in good position and then they just let a guy run right by them.

What I have noticed after using Fulcrum for 5 seasons is that the BBMs have a very important role into helping the fullbacks in marking their men.

For lower levels, I would even say that it is great to have native DMs doing these roles, resulting in 2 very strong, marking-specialists on the sides. However, it is important that their teamwork/work rate attributes are relevant, so they can leave their positiong to float to the sides and support the FBs in their marking duties.

Sometimes we tend to think too offensively and it is great to have three great passers/creative guys in the midfield, but sometimes we have to take care of our defense first.

Don't know if it will work for you but...have a look. Ideas can come from everywhere.

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another season done with and more play-off misery for the dons, didn't make it to the final this year lost to leeds in the semis 3-2. Maybe i have taken them as far as i can.

tactic seemed really inconsistent this season. start off flying but then we lost and draw a few and just couldn't seem to get a run together

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Couple of side points related to things people have said earlier (I forget who said what): I also switch the FB/S to CWB against all-out defence teams. Also had some success switching to more direct passing, overload and take more risks. But that's probably not worth the risk unless you've got a world-class attack.

Also regarding training, I wouldn't leave general training on Team Cohesion for much more than a few weeks, and only then at the start of the season if you have several new players. Training in FM is primarily a mechanism to increase or maintain attributes, and Team Cohesion doesn't do that, so leaving it on Team Cohesion risks your players going backwards as they'll only be increasing the attribute trained in their individual focus. Of course, there's an argument that if you've got highly specialised players and you literally only want them improving the attributes for their role, then do that!

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Forgive me Mr Rosler - I must confess! So, towards the end of the last season at Scunthorpe, I was getting quite frustrated at our inconsistency (mainly brought on by the ME issues). With three games to go, I switched to another tactic, won the last three games, and managed to grab the final automatic promotion spot on the last day of the season. I stuck with that tactic through pre-season, with impressive results, started the season in League 1 relatively well, and then it all started dropping off. In "desperation" I became a bit of a "tactics tart" and tried two or three alternatives, but couldn't find one I felt comfortable with. I soon realised the error of my ways, and have gone back to S&S and Rainmaker. As I have said before, I think these are the most consistent tactics around at the moment, and they have certainly stabilised things - now sitting 2nd in League One, and my CF is scoring freely.

My quandry now is that I am starting to get linked with jobs coming up in the Championship, which I deny any interest in when asked, and keep hearing from the board how happy they are when I do this. I have a contract until the end of the season, and recently asked for an extension from the board, who turned it down, along with another request regarding the youth set-up. There's a part of me thinking that maybe I'll declare an interest if linked with any other bigger clubs in the Championship (so far I have ignored speculation regarding QPR, Leeds and West Ham). I'm playing this game as a long-term career, and part of me wants to stick with the same club, but part of me thinks that with the lack of support from the board maybe its time to move on and test myself at a higher level..decision, decisions.

Either way, I'm sticking with your tactics now and have learnt my lesson!!! :-)

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Forgive me Mr Rosler - I must confess! So, towards the end of the last season at Scunthorpe, I was getting quite frustrated at our inconsistency (mainly brought on by the ME issues). With three games to go, I switched to another tactic, won the last three games, and managed to grab the final automatic promotion spot on the last day of the season. I stuck with that tactic through pre-season, with impressive results, started the season in League 1 relatively well, and then it all started dropping off. In "desperation" I became a bit of a "tactics tart" and tried two or three alternatives, but couldn't find one I felt comfortable with. I soon realised the error of my ways, and have gone back to S&S and Rainmaker. As I have said before, I think these are the most consistent tactics around at the moment, and they have certainly stabilised things - now sitting 2nd in League One, and my CF is scoring freely.

My quandry now is that I am starting to get linked with jobs coming up in the Championship, which I deny any interest in when asked, and keep hearing from the board how happy they are when I do this. I have a contract until the end of the season, and recently asked for an extension from the board, who turned it down, along with another request regarding the youth set-up. There's a part of me thinking that maybe I'll declare an interest if linked with any other bigger clubs in the Championship (so far I have ignored speculation regarding QPR, Leeds and West Ham). I'm playing this game as a long-term career, and part of me wants to stick with the same club, but part of me thinks that with the lack of support from the board maybe its time to move on and test myself at a higher level..decision, decisions.

Either way, I'm sticking with your tactics now and have learnt my lesson!!! :-)

Shamefur Dispray ! (Shogun 2)

Glad to have you back in the fold.:thup:

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Well, my next season won't be with Stockport in Skybet L1 after all.

As mentioned earlier, my manager character is Italian, so when he got job offer from Piacenza in Serie C1/A, he just had to take it.

Not to mention the wage hike from 900€ per week to 2600€ per week.

So, squad building, pre season and then new season will start in Italy.

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Won Skrill Premier at first time of asking. That's back to back promotions.

Came from a fair way back to lead by 6 points with 4 games to go. Blew that lead and had to rely on winning my last game, which I did 6-0, and Halifax slipping up which they kindly did.

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Wolves were already picked to win League 1 but it was pretty much unfair with these tactics. With a few key additions to the squad, we've already won the league around March 20th. 25+ point lead. Leading the league in goals scored. Leading the league in fewest goals allowed. Beat Southampton and Sunderland in cup competitions. Went toe to toe with Chelsea but lost 1-0 on a corner. Struggled against Man City and lost 2-0 in 6th round of FA Cup. We were the last League 1 squad remaining at that point.

My biggest challenge has been keeping all my midfielders and strikers happy with their playing time.

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Thanks ever so much for your efforts in making this tactic. I'm just about to begin a game with Boreham Wood (I just can't resist LLM).

I wanted to ask about the issue of "roles".

I struggle greatly to find players who consider themselves "Complete Forwards" (LLM hell i suppose) despite having reasonably strong stats for this. How much does it matter that they have a decent role rating (e.g how many stars) vs their stats.

Is it better to punt for weaker stats and a higher rating or vice versa?

Thanks again for the tactic

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Thanks ever so much for your efforts in making this tactic. I'm just about to begin a game with Boreham Wood (I just can't resist LLM).

I wanted to ask about the issue of "roles".

I struggle greatly to find players who consider themselves "Complete Forwards" (LLM hell i suppose) despite having reasonably strong stats for this. How much does it matter that they have a decent role rating (e.g how many stars) vs their stats.

Is it better to punt for weaker stats and a higher rating or vice versa?

Thanks again for the tactic

I consider the OVERAll star rating to an extent. If I find a striker with the attributes we're looking for, he's rated as better than what I've got he's good to go. I don't care if he's described as False 9, target man, poacher etc.

Complete Foward describes the ROLE they are expected to fulfill, NOT the player himself.

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Warning / reminder to everyone.

Save more often than the autosave does. I usually run just the autosave and now it backfired.

I had made a lot of transfers, staff additions/contract terminations etc. with Piacenza. Also a couple of friendlies played.

Then after one friendly, when pressing continue, the game crashed.

Quite frustrating as i had just about completed the squad with many good additions. Now i have to do it all again... This time i will save as soon as i have signed almost full squad...

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Thanks ever so much for your efforts in making this tactic. I'm just about to begin a game with Boreham Wood (I just can't resist LLM).

I wanted to ask about the issue of "roles".

I struggle greatly to find players who consider themselves "Complete Forwards" (LLM hell i suppose) despite having reasonably strong stats for this. How much does it matter that they have a decent role rating (e.g how many stars) vs their stats.

Is it better to punt for weaker stats and a higher rating or vice versa?

Thanks again for the tactic

I am with Rosler in this. Consider only the overall star level. If the game says that a guy is a 4-star F9, it means they do well in the attributes the GAME considers as relevant for a F9 which, in some cases, means absolutely nothing.

About attack, I have deployed all kinds of guys in the CF/F9 positions: trequartistas, advanced forwards, poachers, etc. I have had successes/failures without a specific pattern. My current CF is doing great, but he is a trequartista by nature. I have him in an individiual training to develop the CF role, but he is not quite there yet. I don't think this is the main thing. Another example: My best F9 ever was an AML (Francesco Nicastro), which I retrained. His best role was Inside Forward.

Go for Rosler's key attributes and you should do well.

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To those of you who use individual training - which training do you use for the different positions? Here's how I use it (just what I though makes sense for the respective positions, nothing scientific):

GK: goalkeeper

DL/DR: wing back

DC: central defender

DMC: defensive midfielder or anchor man (depending on player)

MC: box to box (maybe advanced playmaker for the attacking MCa in the middle)

F9: trequartista

CF: poacher

If I have a player with a clear weakness in his game (e.g. a CF with low composure) I put them on individual training for that attribute only but in most cases I'll stick with those above.

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To those of you who use individual training - which training do you use for the different positions? Here's how I use it (just what I though makes sense for the respective positions, nothing scientific):

GK: goalkeeper

DL/DR: wing back

DC: central defender

DMC: defensive midfielder or anchor man (depending on player)

MC: box to box (maybe advanced playmaker for the attacking MCa in the middle)

F9: trequartista

CF: poacher

If I have a player with a clear weakness in his game (e.g. a CF with low composure) I put them on individual training for that attribute only but in most cases I'll stick with those above.

I usually start the season in the following way:

Pre-season:

Individual training = none

Team training = Fitness, very high

Match training = Tactics (and it stays there until fluid).

First few months of playing season:

Individual training = Position which the player plays. For example DL/DR = Full Back, all individual training on "Heavy".

Team Training = 3-5 weeks on "Team Cohesion" then switch to "Balanced". Allow rest day after match. Intensity = Average on semi-pro, low on pro (both give overall load light, when combined with heavy individual training).

Mid season:

Individual training = Swich focus to specific attributes on players that the coaches recommend to. Keep position training for others. Check every few months and adjust.

Team training = Balanced, unless signing new players mid season, then switch to Team Cohesion for few weeks and return to balanced.

Another thing.

Funny how different results this game can give.

Before my game crashed, i played friendly against Olympiakos, we lost 0-4.

Now that i reloaded to the start of my Piacenza career, we played the Olympiakos match again, this time we won 2-0. I had almost identical squads in both (i made some different signings now that i had to do it over again) and same tactics.

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Going through another of those periods where I just can't score. Happens about every 6 months - haven't scored a goal from open play in about 5 games. Luckily I've stacked my side full of 6ft 5 beasts and am still just about winning through near post corners! Anyone got any advice for tweaks when you just can't score using this (normally excellent) tactic?

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Going through another of those periods where I just can't score. Happens about every 6 months - haven't scored a goal from open play in about 5 games. Luckily I've stacked my side full of 6ft 5 beasts and am still just about winning through near post corners! Anyone got any advice for tweaks when you just can't score using this (normally excellent) tactic?

Use the right team talks to keep morale up. If necessary hold a team meeting (maybe after 3-4 losses in a row). Talk to your players individually (especially the strikers if they don't score). Basically do everything you can to keep morale up.

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Thanks Burnum, good advice. I am somehow still winning, it's just complacency has set in, I think! I must admit, I've only just realised I can criticise players for not scoring. I praise them if they play well but had assumed criticism would make their morale plummet.

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Interesting, my newly promoted Tonbridge side are getting seriously owned in League 2. My Skrill South Centre Backs are clearly well out of their depth.

Gonna use S&S for all games now at least until I steady the ship!

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Early signs show that the tactics will work fine in Serie C1.

Just played my first competitive match, it wasn't a league match yet, but Serie C Cup match.

It was against a team which plays in same Serie C group than my Piacenza, so it might give some indication of things to come.

This is how it went:

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Early days still, so no reason to get carried away.

I must say that i am pretty happy with the players i was able to sign. Most are either leading players for Serie C or decent for Serie B. Some even have Serie A potential.

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Officialy I'm stoping today playing FM2014 until a decent patch comes out !!

I'l give you my little story..i'm using your tactics Mr rosler !!

3rd season with Aberdeen, we were champions on the second season and now we have a pretty decent squad for the scotish premiership.

Semi finals of the Cup agains Hearts....I'm second in the league...Hearts is 12th !!

Repeated the game 32 times !!!! YES !!! 32 times !!!

And you know ?? 32 defeats !! 16 of the with own goals !! 27 of the with goals from corners !! In 31 games I lost 2-1/2-0 or 3-1 !! With Hearts making 3 shots at goal !! In ALL the 32 I shoted at least 20 times...and at least 8 in goal !! Even 2, sometimes 3 CCC per game !! And Hearts... 0 !! ZERO !! And everytime they won !!

So please SI...do something...you ruined a fantastic game that 2013 was !! We lost sometimes in FM2013, and we even enjoy the game we we lost but in FM2014 its impossible to enjoy the game !!

No matter the players, the tactics, the team talk, the subs....no matter what...your ME is ruining everything !!!!

Nothing more to say...I'll paciently wait for the patch !! And maybe this was the last FM I ever bought (and I play the game since 94 !!) !!

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Officialy I'm stoping today playing FM2014 until a decent patch comes out !!

I'l give you my little story..i'm using your tactics Mr rosler !!

3rd season with Aberdeen, we were champions on the second season and now we have a pretty decent squad for the scotish premiership.

Semi finals of the Cup agains Hearts....I'm second in the league...Hearts is 12th !!

Repeated the game 32 times !!!! YES !!! 32 times !!!

And you know ?? 32 defeats !! 16 of the with own goals !! 27 of the with goals from corners !! In 31 games I lost 2-1/2-0 or 3-1 !! With Hearts making 3 shots at goal !! In ALL the 32 I shoted at least 20 times...and at least 8 in goal !! Even 2, sometimes 3 CCC per game !! And Hearts... 0 !! ZERO !! And everytime they won !!

So please SI...do something...you ruined a fantastic game that 2013 was !! We lost sometimes in FM2013, and we even enjoy the game we we lost but in FM2014 its impossible to enjoy the game !!

No matter the players, the tactics, the team talk, the subs....no matter what...your ME is ruining everything !!!!

Nothing more to say...I'll paciently wait for the patch !! And maybe this was the last FM I ever bought (and I play the game since 94 !!) !!

Important matches are very different from your average league match.

Some players might not handle the pressure well and underperform because of that.

Some might need encouraging in team talks/individual talks as others might need you to be demanding.

Pre-match press conferences can make a big difference in this kind of matches.

There are many variables in play, even before the actual match starts.

Repeating the match 32 times doesn't change players mental capacities, so maybe try a different approach next time?

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Important matches are very different from your average league match.

Some players might not handle the pressure well and underperform because of that.

Some might need encouraging in team talks/individual talks as others might need you to be demanding.

Pre-match press conferences can make a big difference in this kind of matches.

There are many variables in play, even before the actual match starts.

Repeating the match 32 times doesn't change players mental capacities, so maybe try a different approach next time?

I'm assuming he saved at the last moment i.e on the match day tactics screen.

It has to be worth testing i guess?

IF the result of the match has already been decided before you leave the tactics screen then that would have major implications for the game. I dont think it works like this & I certainly hope not.

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Tbh, any tactic begins to struggle come the 2nd or 3rd season if you're not mixing it up and that was the case in FM11 (last one i played before this) and I'm assuming was the case with every one since. I think it's not so noticeable if you're working your way up leagues, with different opposition, but I've found it to be the case once you reach the pinnacle of any league.

In both my Roma and Fiorentina saves, I steamrollered the first seasons, but was found wanting in both the 2nd and 3rd seasons. It's not the tactic or any tactic for that matter, it's because the game forces you to adapt every so often and that's not a bad thing.

I found rainmaker next to useless in the 2nd season and like i said, it isn't the tactic nor a criticism of the tactic, it's merely the game because teams set out differently when you're the team to beat.

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I'm assuming he saved at the last moment i.e on the match day tactics screen.

It has to be worth testing i guess?

IF the result of the match has already been decided before you leave the tactics screen then that would have major implications for the game. I dont think it works like this & I certainly hope not.

No, the match outcome has not been decided before hand. You can however make the match easier or harder for yourself, depending what you do and say before the match day.

From personal experience i can say, that it really makes a huge difference how your players mental status is during the match. Even if you are the better team, you can be totally outplayed by much worse team if your players are complacent or nervous for some reason. Or you can win comfortably against stronger opponent, if they are on the wrong mental level.

Sometimes it is worth it to select some of the older players (even if they are attribute wise worse than young players), just to bring experience to the field. Of course, older players with rubbish mental attributes / personality won't help at all :D

If you want to have consistent performance, go for players with professional and resolute personalities. High determination and team work are also very good attributes to have.

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I have a home game against Rochdale. Pretty even teams. I'll see how I get on saving on the match day tactics screen and replaying the game until I get a different result.

So far

2 - 2 DRAW

1 - 1 DRAW

1 - 1 DRAW - I was 1 nil down and down to 10 men after 67 minutes, i still managed to get the injury time equalizer?? This is getting wierd.

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I have a home game against Rochdale. Pretty even teams. I'll see how I get on saving on the match day tactics screen and replaying the game until I get a different result.

So far

2 - 2 DRAW

1 - 1 DRAW

1 - 1 DRAW - I was 1 nil down and down to 10 men after 67 minutes, i still managed to get the injury time equalizer?? This is getting wierd.

1 - 4 DEFEAT - Thank god for that, i've never been so happy to lose a game. Test over :brock:

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1 - 4 DEFEAT - Thank god for that, i've never been so happy to lose a game. Test over :brock:

Next test could be:

1. Save before press conference.

2. Be very optimistic about your chances, sure win for our team.

3. Play the match.

then

1. Reload

2. Be very pessimistic, we have no chance to win.

3. Play the match with same tactic and starting eleven that you had in first game.

I am not sure how big difference press conferences make, but they do have some impact (more than just the PR icon on some players).

Still, pre match team talk and half time team talk are the most important in my opinion.

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Update on my League 2 campaign.

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I'm out of the relegation zone but not by much. My squad is very poor in comparison to the rest of League 2.

My first team

1 Player rated as good for Skrill Prem

3 Players rated as decent for Skrill Prem

2 Players rated as good for Skrill North/South

5 Players rated as decent for Skrill North/South

Why not improve the squad?

Player pool available to me.

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Not 1 of these player is rated as even DECENT for league 2.

I can only sign non league players.

They were supposed to have sorted the 'reputation' system..... Grrrrrrrrrr

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Not 1 of these player is rated as even DECENT for league 2.

I can only sign non league players.

They were supposed to have sorted the 'reputation' system..... Grrrrrrrrrr

That's weird... now that i moved from Stockport to Piacenza, i seem to have very good players available for me.

Serie C reputation is 2 stars and Piacenza reputation is also 2 stars (regional).

This is my latest (and last) addition during pre-season (free transfer):

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Coach opinion (actually under 19's manger giving the opinion):

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This is the guy giving the opinion, if i understand anything from staff, it should be pretty accurate?

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My friends,

Yes I saved the game in the tactics screen before the "talks" !!

And I even tried a lot of different team talks....result was allways the same !!

I never restarted a game in my life in FM, and I play since CM94, but I decided to make this experience because I was founding the results in the game pretty strange!!!

So that's why I'm so upset about it

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Quick point.

'Wiv' on the other thread said he found breaking down parked defenses much easier when he kept training on attacking movement, as a top 4 team.

Pretty obvious really but I've been mentally scarred conceding from set pieces.

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Quick point.

'Wiv' on the other thread said he found breaking down parked defenses much easier when he kept training on attacking movement, as a top 4 team.

Pretty obvious really but I've been mentally scarred conceding from set pieces.

I think that the new corner instructions work quite well, even without concentrating on def set pieces.

I have used various match instructions lately and i have not noticed any increase in conceding from set pieces.

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Truly amazing tactics - great job! I won the Russian league with Rubin Kazan - now playing with Kasimpasa from Turkey (predicted 8th)...

They have a good team but I made it better. Had two matches where I conceded 5 goals (lost 5-0 in first game!). Last 22 games in the season. 18 wins and 4 draws. Champions! :-)

http://imageshack.com/a/img513/1050/3fu0.jpg <-Table + squad

http://imageshack.com/a/img401/6952/de9t.jpg <-Last 22 games + transfers

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I think that the new corner instructions work quite well, even without concentrating on def set pieces.

I have used various match instructions lately and i have not noticed any increase in conceding from set pieces.

what new corner instruction, i seemed to have missed this :)

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what new corner instruction, i seemed to have missed this :)

I mean the ones that are in v2 tactics.

They are not the same that are in v1 tactics. I think these are the instructions that someone posted in v1 thread a while back and Mr U Rosler implemented them in to v2 tactics.

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Spot on. The current ME magically turns a world class striker into Emile Heskey. I think it has to do with the angle of the shot. If they're straight up in the middle in front of the goal they can't score to save their lives. If the striker has a bit of an angle the chances of scoring are much higher (contradictory to real life).

My previous posts were in no way meant as critic of your tactics, I was just getting frustrated with losing games I should've won. It's the ME that's flawed, not your tactics.

this is so true i have cavani on my spurs save 20 for finishing high composure yet his conversion rate is shocking he has been so poor over the 2 seasons that im going to sell him as cant be paying those wages for a striker who doesnt score.

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Second season with Wolfsburg and we are steamrolling, much in the same way i did in second season at Parma. Improved the defence in the offseason and after 15 league games we are a massive 11pts clear!

Played 15, won 13, lost 1, Drawn 1. Goal scored 26, goals conceded 8.

Despite the amazing record, im actually struggling to get my false 9 going at all. I have 4 top class strikers, couple of whom are regens, but i cant get consistency in that slot. Likewise in my CM(a) slot its not going brilliant. Bought Maher to fill that role in season 1, but he missed most of it through injury and was poor when he came back. Also got Dzagoev on a free but he has been even worse. A Serb named Marko Pavlovski, signed from hertha in season 1, has been my best performer there but still not as good as i had at Parma.

If i can go on and win the german league, i shall move on to Spain or france, or back to England!

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Despite the amazing record, im actually struggling to get my false 9 going at all. I have 4 top class strikers, couple of whom are regens, but i cant get consistency in that slot. Likewise in my CM(a) slot its not going brilliant. Bought Maher to fill that role in season 1, but he missed most of it through injury and was poor when he came back. Also got Dzagoev on a free but he has been even worse. A Serb named Marko Pavlovski, signed from hertha in season 1, has been my best performer there but still not as good as i had at Parma.

I've had Marko Pavlovski on my Paderborn team. He developed into a stud and the CPU sold him to Man United for 30-35 million after I left Paderborn. Now he's an integral part of United's Premier League dominance in 2023.

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