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Hi, I am playing as Werder Bremen. None of the strikers here are fast. I have never played with slow strikers unless on a support role. So I don't know how to build around them. I am comfortable with any formation using 3-4 Central midfielders as I have lots of potentials in that position. My board expects me to play a possession football. But, I can change the philosophies soon. I am expected to have a mid table finish. But, after selling Ellia for $35 mil. I think my chances are better because my first 11 have better stats than many expected to finish 5-10. Here are the players good enough to feature for the team.

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I also have $8 mil. in the bank. I got offers for Januzovic and Selassie for $12mil and $5mil. So pls suggest a tactic with these players

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I haven't managed to get around to doing a Bremen thread this year, been having too much fun with Fiorentina.

The overall squad quality is considered to be pretty bad. From what I've seen Bremen are likely to get relegated if left to the AI managers.

Since you ditched the wingers, have you considered a 4-1-3-2 using Garcia/Schmitz/Gebre Selassie as wingbacks (Ignjovski and Bargfrede make great fullbacks/wingbacks if retrained too)?

You could have a set up with Caldirola/Prodl as DC's, Gebre Selassie/Garcia as really offensive wingbacks, use a halfback or anchor (Annan or Ignjovski?), with Makiadi/Ekici/Junuzovic in the midfield and use Germain or Petersen etc as a TM or something right up top, with a support striker next to them (Hunt or Di Santo maybe?) or even a narrow diamond using Hunt in the AMC slot as a playmaker, or maybe a Shadow striker.

BTW, the whole "board expects possession football" is BS btw, they beat Leverkusen at the weekend with 35% possession, rearguard action ftw!

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30 points from 15 games. Defense was solid. Annan had an average rating of 8.76, Selassie has a rating of 8.87, Garcia 9.04. Prodl was a wall with an average of 8.86.

But the attack sucks. Petersen scored 6 goals(3 penalties) and 3 assists in 9 starts in the TM role. Toivonen scored 4 goals and 2 assists in 15 games. Di santo had 1 goal and an assist in 6 starts. They were seperated from the midfield. Hunt was the main culprit there. In then games, he scored only 2 goals and an assist. He was very selfish. Interestingly, in his absence, Yildrim started 4 matches. Scored 3 and had 2 assists. My defenders, Prodl and Milosevic scored 7 goals and had 3 assists.

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i think you will be better off without counter mentality as counter attacks should be fast and as you mentioned your strikers are pretty slow.

i would try juventus 3-1-4-2 formation usind the wing backs to get lots of crosses inside the box aimed for your tall strikers.

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I think I'll start again. I think I'll go with a 4-1-3-2 this time. I have two questions now,

1)Since I'll need a striker on a support duty. What striker should I pair up with TM(A)?

2)Do you think I should buy Toivonen again for $8.5 mil. because of his stats and versatility?

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@Beuno, the reason I choose Counter was I thought I could defend better against top teams and set it to Attack against weaker teams. But, now that you have mentioned the obvious, I feel like an idiot for not thinking about that. Tnx for mentioning it.

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You should pair your TMa or AF with a DLFs or F9. Di Santo and Germaine look like they could partner with one of the other two. Your attacking trio is exactly that - all attacking. There's no one supporting them in that area. You need someone dropping back to support.

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As I said I've restarted again. This time I didn't buy toivonen, Germain and Annan. Sold Junozovic too. Bought Karacen, Kara Forster and few other back up players.

I've updated my team in the OP.

The tactic I use is

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I am happy with it so far. Results are not as good as the previous save, but the performance was better. Luck was bad though. 3 games were lost on 90 mins. 6 drawn in 80's.

Petersen has missed a lot of open goals. He scored 7 goals and 4 assists in 17 games. Surprisingly, Santo scored 9 goals and had 3 assists.

But the main problem again was hunt. In the shadow striker role, I expected him to be the top scorer. But, in the 14 games he played so far, he has failed to find the net even once. He has no assists to his name either. His shots on target/shots ratio is 3/8.

Is there anything wrong with the tactic? Should I change him to an AP? But then I'll need someone else to shoot at the goal. And does APs work in a direct wingerless formation? Or is it just his poor work rate, Determination and Composure? And should a right-footed TM be on the right or left?

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I would change Hunt to an AP(a) which will make more use of his creativity and flair. He will still score but be much more involved in buildup. You have two CWBa which might make you vulnerable in the back. The DM could change into a HB who will then drop back and form a 3 man defense letting the wing backs to bomb forward. You should experiment a bit more with the midfield. I feel another support role would be good there.

For the tactic you chose control but with direct passing. I would either drop the direct passing or your control strategy. You chose balanced with a lot of specialist roles. Check out he 12 step guide in this forum stickied up top. Probably go with Rigid or very rigid or change to more generalist roles.

Petersen is either footed so he should be fine on either side. For my own saves I try to have the "creator" type striker play on his stronger foot and the "scorer" on his weaker foot because sometimes this allows him to score like an inside forward. But it doesn't really matter I think.

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I forgot about the style. tnx for reminding. The reason I choose control was because I wanted Petersen and Santo to hold the ball for Karacen and Hunt. And also Control closes down the midfield which I can tnx to my hardworking midfield.

Will a Trequartista/Engache work in a long ball tactic? I really need another person to score.

tnx for the help so far.

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Try to look at positioning and off-the-ball movement for your more forward striker as well. I had a similar tactical build in the lower leagues for my Stockport save (out of necessity due to lack of wingers) during my first season which had somewhat limited success.

The positional difference was that I had a flat line of 3 CMs in front of a DM, putting onus on the TM to fill the gap where the AM/SS is.

Since you're not using wingers, maybe consider playing somewhat narrower and use the spine as a battering ram/passing channel through the enemy defense? I used 'Short Passing' rather than long-ball tactics so you can dominate possession somewhat in midfield.

Its a pretty stagnant tactical set though.

With control, go for short range passing but without a focus on possession, this will make it slightly more dynamic.

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Hmmm... in that case maybe switch your TM to (S) while your CF to (A)? This will make the TM drop back a bit more so that the long balls can be aimed at him, making him the forward distribution point for your CF and SS to make runs for him to find.

Just a thought.

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