WI5ARD Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 you'll love it with liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsa Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I seem to score more (with fewer chances) by playing standard(or counter) instead of control. Will return (hopefully) with emipirical evidence later... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Won the league with Liverpool with 80 points in the first season. Only bought Matuidi which was fortunate as Lucas loved a sending off with v1 of this tactic - vicious tackle missed 3 matches, first game back vicious tackle missed 5 matches! Now I knew we had a South American in the squad who loved a bit of controversy and a lengthy ban but I didn't think was the Brazilian! Switched to v2 and he didn't get any more red cards.Won 9 games 1-0 but winning is winning and that can be sorted with better personnel. Anyway I'm off to win the European cup. Cheers Papamogl Not tried this tactic, I was just reading the thread when I noticed this post and I have to agree with the Lucas Leiva thing. I ended up selling him after six red cards and that was before the end of the season. It's almost like a bug as his stats and ppm's give no suggestion that he's an absolute nut case. It's almost like a bug as no other players got that amount of cards when they had so much more potential for it, in the same position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slakey Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 This tactic works a treat, at the start of my save I couldn't get the results or correct tactic, since using this... although I'm not where I want to be in the table it's given me another chance hopefully to perform better in the next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Just won me the double first season: But I really like the fact that it gave me the highest pass completion rate in the whole league. And that despite the high tempo! Lewandowski won the player of the year award (in front of Reus and Aubameyang, both also playing for Dortmund) and the top goalscorer award. He scored 28 goals in 32 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iolodavanki Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ugh, struggling with a star-studded Liverpool with this tactic. Got beaten by Fulham at home, 1-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Any particular problems? Can you tell us a bit more specifically what's going wrong on the pitch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 what skin is that papamogl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 It's the official skin, but I'm using a custom background picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydy9 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I've playted this tactic for a season now and can echo the posts saying it's saved my FM life, I'm Wolves in the CH season 3 and top of the league but 1 think I'm having a problem with is scoring goals and the strikers scoring rate in particular. Can anyone advise of the type of player I am looking for here ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 I've playted this tactic for a season now and can echo the posts saying it's saved my FM life Thanks, glad to hear that. As to the strikers: you need a deep lying forward, that's pretty important. Lewandowski is perfectly capable of that, so in my first season there was no problem for me. Now, at the start of the second, Lewandowski has left for Bayern Munich. Benteke may have been a good option, but he recently joined Chelsea and is not available anymore. So I'm starting a little experiment. I bought Axel Witsel as my deep lying forward! He has all the stats needed, and I hope he'll be comfortable in that position pretty soon. At least it started out well so far, first game - first goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Despite all the talk about defending being buggy in this ME, here's a defensive record (not conceded in six games). The experiment with Witsel is also going along fine: 4 games, 4 goals, 2 assists so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
furlo2007 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Gonna give this tactic a try, losing the plot with this game!! Won my 1st game 9-0 with it in the champions league against Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 what are the other team instructions that you cant see in the screenshot? I cant download the tactic cos of stupid parental controls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 furlo2007 please report back when you played some more games. chob, it would be tedious to list all the instructions. But if you send me a pm with your email-adress I can send you the tactic if you want. Witsel is incredible, 7 goals in 6 games, and an average rating of 8,17 (!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
furlo2007 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Will do haven't really got the players for the tactic at the minute but gonna get the it fully fluid and make do with the players i have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Here are Axel Witsel's stats as my striker. Just incredible: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Thanks. I have pm'd you. I cant wait to try your tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJonnyBoy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Not sure if this is some kind of 'Super-Tactic' as I'm currently Catania in Serie A in the first season and I'm 12 points clear at the top going into March. Fouls and cards are extreme, but when you consider my squad, this is somewhat of a crazy situation to find myself in. Edit- Just to add, I have lost one game all season and that was in cup when I started my 2nd eleven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescefesso Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 what about match preparation and traininig? tank's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Not sure if this is some kind of 'Super-Tactic' If it was a diablo tactic, I guess there would be more people using it. Your achievements are stunning, though (and for me it works really well too). For match preparation I usually choose defensive positioning, teamwork, or defending setpieces. Sometimes attacking movement and attacking setpieces too. But I don't have a systematic approach, I just choose what I see fit. The training is handled by my assistant manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJonnyBoy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Just won Serie A with three games to spare. Champions League football for little Catania! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What pitch size works best with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Smaller might be better for short passing. But Dortmund's pitch size was the medium one and I sticked with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSevensM75 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Taken the basis of your tactic, made some adjustments and am playing a 5-3-2 (with one of the three being an AM) and finally I am seeing my strikers score goals. So thank you very much! I'm playing as Spurs and am in the very early stages of the 18/19 season. I had some pretty easy friendly games but still scored for fun in the pre-season (9-0 against Cork City, 8-1 against DC United, 6-1 against Cluj, 5-1 against New York. Boca was my hardest game and I won 3-0). Three games in the league and won 2-0, 3-0 and 4-0 with the last two games being away from home. But just lost 3-1 in the Super Cup, but I did go down to 10 men at 2-1 down in the 47th minute. My stuttering striker (last two seasons was P27 S10 & P19 C3) has scored 6 goals in 3 league games, with a brace in each match. Absolutely thrilled, so thanks as if it wasn't for templating your original design I doubt I'd have been able to do it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Started a game as dortmund as ive never managed in germany before. I won all my friendlys easily and beat bayern munich in the super cup. I only had time to play 2 league games but won them.The 2 standout players for me have been reus and lewandowski with this tactic.I can't wait to finish work so I can get back to fm. Loving the tactic so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm glad that my tactic seems to help some who have been struggling with the game before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewTheKid Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks for the nice tactic man. Maybe you should try to post your tactic up in other forums such as fm-base and maybe you could get more feedbacks there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbo79 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Just won the Championship with Tranmere in my 3rd season with them (2nd in the Championship), 4 games to go, with a squad of 19 players, great tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin1337 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 so here is a SS of my fixture with basel, and as u can see, only 4 losses in the whole saison.... that was the craziest saison i've ever played! reached cl final, won the league without a loss, salah is the topscorer of the CL, even with an injury and the only new player i brought in was madlung as a free transfer. but thats not all, atletico madrid won there league 8 points ahead of real and barca, bayern sacked guardiola and hired benitez and they only placed 4th behind dortmund(1.), schalke(2.lol) and hannover(3.LOL) this tactic is amazing and i love u for that! cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Thanks guys, appreciate it. Champions League final with Basel is insane! And only lost on penalties, against Barcelona. Must be fun to play as Basel manager, will have to try that too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADent01 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Just finished my 1st season with Dortmund using this tactic: x) Won the league (29 W / 4 L / 1 D) - 91:30 - 88pts (22 pts ahead of Bayern Munich) x) Won the German Cup x) CL: Semi Final - Lost to Barca after a 2:1 victory at home. At Camp Nou they were awarded 2 penalties Really nice and successful tactic! Thanks a lot for your good work and for sharing your tactic! Cheers P.S. Lewandowski scored... a lot... 39 goals in 46 games (overall) 28 goals in 27 games (League) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Thanks for reporting back! Incredible results there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy121 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 hello thanks for the tactic very good of you im with Liverpool in 10th march 2019 have had mixed results went through a bad patch and have picked up again ,having trouble finding wingbacks ,so need this season to finish and start looking ,what stats do you look for in wing backs ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Look for attacking wingbacks. Stamina is important, crossing and dribling too. But the defensive skills (man marking, tackling...) are equally important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slakey Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 My current new striker *Christian Benteke which cost me £20m+* currently isn't getting the goals, not entirely sure why... I may be a bit harsh but 1 goal in 5 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Don't know what's the matter. Benteke should be well suited for this tactic. How are you performing overall? Are you winning the games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slakey Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Nope I'm not exactly winning the games either :/ I thought Benteke would flourish under this tactic hense why I spent so much to bring him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hm, can you post some stats? Let's start with the fixtures to see if we can narrow down some of the problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzahutch Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What do you use for general training and match training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Started a new game with Dortmund with this tactic. No signings. In early December. Top of the league by 3 points. P:14 W:10 D:1 L:3 F:29 A:13. Playing some attractive attacking football, so pretty decent. In a tough CL group (against Arsenal, Napoli and Marseille) we've P:5 W:3 D:1 L:1 F:5 A:2, qualifying for the knockout stages with a game to spare. All in all looks a solid tactic. Had 3 red cards already though, seems a lot for 19 games? Despite a good start, Lewandowski has now gone 11 games without scoring... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafat Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hi there Will start with lpool and feedback later today or tomorrow. Noticed a difference in passing instructions between AMl and AMr. Can you please explain it with more detail? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 @ gazzahutch see post #71 @arafat the different passing settings are on purpose. I found that it gave me the best balance between a short passing game and attacking burst. Since I don't want my team to play careful possession based football (as Barca does), but attack very quickly, but with short passes (think Klopp's Dortmund or Favre's Gladbach) these were the settings that did that best for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nice goal we scored using this tactic: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks for the upload, what a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutao0918 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I tried two matches, it is very great tactic, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Thanks for reporting back. Two games are not very much, but appreciated all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Finished my first season with Dortmund using this tactic. Won the league by 21 points. Most goals scored and fewest conceded: Lost in the quarter final of the DFB-Pokal v Wolfsburg. We were 2-0 up at home and cruising but slipped to a shocking 2-3 defeat after going down to 10 men in the second half... Lost 3-1 v Chelsea in the Champions League final. Great tactic. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blmodesto01 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Great tactic! I won Copa do Brasil and Campeonato Brasileiro in first season with Vasco da Gama Best tactic at this moment!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated. Great results you got there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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