cruyff14 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Having very mixed season with Sunderland team. Played 28, W 13, D 5, L 11.Getting beaten a lot on counter + corners. Maybe drop the defense line deeper, offside trap perhaps. As for corners change the set up. I tend to have everyone back man marking and one on each post, helps loads I find Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMe Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Mixed for me too. Using it 2 seasons now. Doing great in the CL againts squad similar too mine. I'm Ajax. Struggling in the league againt smaller oponents. Sometimes things go easy, other times a real struggle or unexpected loss. Doing better second season on the goal scoring when added Cardozo to my team. Also Sivok is doing good as a DMC. But Balanta and Doria struggle in the back. Gonna look into the corner defending and test some stuff there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkup Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 doin good with my qpr team. started the season with the original 343, recently switched to the 424 which im having better luck with. the 343 was good, but i seem to be getting more consistency with the 424. it's jan in season one and im sitting in a comfortable 3rd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 im using 4-2-4 and my attackers seems to long shot ALOT ? any help to reduce the long shot and try more passing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 im using 4-2-4 and my attackers seems to long shot ALOT ? any help to reduce the long shot and try more passing This is the way this tactic works. Cant really help to reduce long shots rate. Long shot can let you have more corner and some time unexpected goals!! ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerni Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 3-4-3 R version V2 - after use V1. I'm thinking about which one i wanna use on season three. I'm getting 2 points more on league, but I was only third on Champions League group and I lost 6-1 against Manchester City ;/. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 My Wolves result till now Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichS24 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 just completed first season as Arsenal using the V1 343 formations. 2nd wasn't bad, but it was frustrating with the number of chances you needed to score compared to the oppo. about to start 2nd season using V2 formations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 nice.. post more result and feedback thanks ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradonna Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 does V2 just differs in formation to 1 or are there some major improvements overall? So would you say V2 > V1 or both are equally good, considering player material? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 3-4-3 R version V2 - after use V1. I'm thinking about which one i wanna use on season three. I'm getting 2 points more on league, but I was only third on Champions League group and I lost 6-1 against Manchester City ;/. what are your Past Playing Experience in game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 does V2 just differs in formation to 1 or are there some major improvements overall? So would you say V2 > V1 or both are equally good, considering player material? Updates: V2: Added 4231 and 424 Changed Crossing and Set Pieces in 343 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsaunders11 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Was using the gegenpressing tactic and come across this (V1 343) in season one with spurs thought would give a try in cup games and europe.... now ending up using as my primary tactic will post results come end of season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydRix Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Amazing tactic. Won the Quintuple. Used the 3-4-3L V2 one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 It's the results of 4231 V2 from FMBASE hi Zero, first of all, congratulation!!! i tested a lot of tactics and this is absolutely the best!in my first season with real madrid (V2 4-2-3-1L) i won everything and these are the results... i tried to made a lot of turnover, and i win easily all the matches, this is my best team with Di Maria as TC again congrats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Started using your tactic from the 3-0 Rio Ave game downwards. Simply amazing! Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Started using your tactic from the 3-0 Rio Ave game downwards. Simply amazing! Thank you. Which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Which tactic? I'm using the R V1 from the original post. It's worked wonders with my Porto team as per the screenshot, even destroying Benfica 5-0 in the last match I played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Which tactic? I'm using the R V1 from the original post. It's worked wonders with my Porto team as per the screenshot, even destroying Benfica 5-0 in the last match I played. I just changed Crossing and Set Pieces in 343 V2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I just changed Crossing and Set Pieces in 343 V2. What difference have you found these changes make Zero Sea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Well I've just played my first game with the newer version (V2) and won 6-0, 46 shots on goal to their 1, 8 CCCs. Very impressed with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 What difference have you found these changes make Zero Sea? They are almost the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 It's from FM-Base Friendly match against Inter Milan using V1. most players used were from Atletico B. He scored two goals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I give the V2 4231R a try with my weak WBA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I give the V2 4231R a try with my weak WBA! results so far Away 3-0 Win Home 3-1 Win Away 0-1 Lose ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 I give the V2 4231R a try with my weak WBA! Thanks Which teams are your opponents Could you post some screenshots ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Post a screen later! Very good results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Post a screen later! Very good results! First I had nice results..... after that.... Look against Dag & Red.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 First I had nice results..... after that.... Look against Dag & Red.. League tenth And you win Arsenal and Liverpool It's not bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 It's from FM-Base Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 a_ilfandy‘s Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2014) RESULTS UPDATE ROUND 4 Patch: 14.1.3 Mode: Normal Competition: World Super League Progress: 10 league games Tactics entry: Super League A BARCELONA: Iamauser (3 - Lets Score Goals) CHELSEA: Krunccrni (253 overlord) BAYERN: Miles (Dullnut Counter Att) MAN CITY: Seanhrfc (Arrigo Sacchi 4-4-2 V2) Super League B JUVENTUS: Shagunner (1ATK_ Diamond No Defence) MAN UNITED: StueyRob (ForeverFM14) PARIS SG: Wampley (Wee Free Men Final) REAL MADRID: Zero Sea (V2 4231L Rage) League: Selected League Matches: Cup: Selected Cup Matches: Notes: - League A: Krunccrni leads by 1 point. - League B: Zero Sea is one of the 3 co-leaders. - Krunccrni is still unbeaten. - Best offence: Krunccrni (32 goals) - Best defence: Zero Sea (7 conceded) - Cup: Zero Sea, Krunccrni, Seanhrfc, and StueyRob reached QFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
无门冰&# Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The tactic is 50-50, but the 'short option' attacking corner setup is absolutly amazing, ENGINE-BROKEN, I'd rather say. Nice job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 a_ilfandy‘s Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2014) RESULTS UPDATE ROUND 4 Patch: 14.1.3 Mode: Normal Competition: World Super League Progress: 10 league games Tactics entry: Super League A BARCELONA: Iamauser (3 - Lets Score Goals) CHELSEA: Krunccrni (253 overlord) BAYERN: Miles (Dullnut Counter Att) MAN CITY: Seanhrfc (Arrigo Sacchi 4-4-2 V2) Super League B JUVENTUS: Shagunner (1ATK_ Diamond No Defence) MAN UNITED: StueyRob (ForeverFM14) PARIS SG: Wampley (Wee Free Men Final) REAL MADRID: Zero Sea (V2 4231L Rage) League: Selected League Matches: Cup: Selected Cup Matches: Notes: - League A: Krunccrni leads by 1 point. - League B: Zero Sea is one of the 3 co-leaders. - Krunccrni is still unbeaten. - Best offence: Krunccrni (32 goals) - Best defence: Zero Sea (7 conceded) - Cup: Zero Sea, Krunccrni, Seanhrfc, and StueyRob reached QFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 The tactic is 50-50' date=' but the 'short option' attacking corner setup is absolutly amazing, ENGINE-BROKEN, I'd rather say. Nice job![/quote']It doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 a_ilfandy‘s Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2014) ROUND 4 Patch: 14.1.3 Mode: Normal Competition: World Super League Progress: COMPLETED! Tactics entry: Super League A BARCELONA: Iamauser (3 - Lets Score Goals) CHELSEA: Krunccrni (253 overlord) BAYERN: Miles (Dullnut Counter Att) MAN CITY: Seanhrfc (Arrigo Sacchi 4-4-2 V2) Super League B JUVENTUS: Shagunner (1ATK_ Diamond No Defence) MAN UNITED: StueyRob (ForeverFM14) PARIS SG: Wampley (Wee Free Men Final) REAL MADRID: Zero Sea (V2 4231L Rage) Leagues: Cup: Playoff: Selected Playoff Matches: List of Winners: - League A: Krunccrni - League B: Zero Sea - Best offence: Krunccrni - Best defence: Seanhrfc - Cup: Krunccrni - Playoff: Zero Sea Speacial Achievements: - We have a double-double! - Krunccrni won League A and the Cup. - Zero Sea won League B and the Playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 V3 Come Out http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=8131 Updates: V3: reduce f*cking long shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Mantorras77's Tactic Testing League Introduction: Hey everyone. I did a few of these Tactic Tests last year but would post the results in the individual tactic threads themselves. This year I decided to start my own thread just to be able keep it organized and easily track and compare results. Ive been an FM'r since the CM days and I want to contribute to the community in any way I can so this is it. Now I know what you're all thinking "Not another tactic testing thread!!". A_ilfandy does a great job at what he does over on his tactic testing thread and he works hard at it. If you haven't checked it out please do so here. The method of testing i'm using is an 8-team custom league where I take 1 tactic, assign it to one of the 8 custom teams all of equal value, play a season with it and see how it stacks up against the cpu. The key thing is to eliminate as many variables as possible and that is why every team is exactly identical from the Staff all the way down to the Training Facilities. This way it really focusses in the tactic itself. This method was created and used by the legend Mr. Langvatn last year in his own tactics thread. So all credit goes to him on this. I'm very thankfull that he shared it with me. Submit Your Tactic: - PM me with the words "TTL SUBMISSION" in the Title Field. (easier for me to track this way) - Include the direct link to your Tactic you want me to test. - Include the direct link to your thread. ALSO - I will be on the lookout for exciting tactics out there in the FM world and testing them as well. How I Test: - Each game is played at the Tactic Testing Stadium vs cpu teams of equal value - I make sure every tactic is fully fluid before the start of the season - I remove injuries and make morale Superb before each game to remove these variables - I play the games on Key Highlights - I only substitute a player if the game makes me do it - All Team Talks are done by the Ass Man.(Ass Man has a Motivating of 18) - All OI's are done by the Ass Man (If applicable) (Ass Man has a Tactical Knowledge of 18) - Meet your Player's (The Outfielder and the Goalie) (200 CA for ea) Results: - I will post all final results to the table below. - I will create an individual post for each tactic. - A quality tactic will be able to hit at least 60 points in the TTL - All tactics are downloadable by clicking on them in the table below - If you enjoy the tactic please show the author some love by posting it on their thread ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FM14 TTL TABLE (Patch 14.1.3) [TABLE=class: cms_table_grid, align: center] [TR] [TD=align: center]Tactic [/TD] [TD=align: center]W [/TD] [TD=align: center]D [/TD] [TD=align: center]L [/TD] [TD=align: center]PTS [/TD] [TD=align: center]GF [/TD] [TD=align: center]GA [/TD] [TD=align: center]GD [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]Zero Sea's Rage 100℃ Real 343R (v3)[/TD] [TD=align: center]22[/TD] [TD=align: center]3[/TD] [TD=align: center]3[/TD] [TD=align: center]69[/TD] [TD=align: center]57[/TD] [TD=align: center]18[/TD] [TD=align: center]+39[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]X Y's Barcelona[/TD] [TD=align: center]21[/TD] [TD=align: center]3[/TD] [TD=align: center]4[/TD] [TD=align: center]66[/TD] [TD=align: center]55[/TD] [TD=align: center]22[/TD] [TD=align: center]+33[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center] TIKI-TAKA - by X Y[/TD] [TD=align: center]18[/TD] [TD=align: center]8[/TD] [TD=align: center]2[/TD] [TD=align: center]62[/TD] [TD=align: center]58[/TD] [TD=align: center]23[/TD] [TD=align: center]+35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]X Y best tactic for FM14[/TD] [TD=align: center]19[/TD] [TD=align: center]4[/TD] [TD=align: center]5[/TD] [TD=align: center]61[/TD] [TD=align: center]60[/TD] [TD=align: center]24[/TD] [TD=align: center]+36[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]X Y's 4-4-2 for FM14 (v2)[/TD] [TD=align: center]18[/TD] [TD=align: center]6[/TD] [TD=align: center]4[/TD] [TD=align: center]60[/TD] [TD=align: center]54[/TD] [TD=align: center]18[/TD] [TD=align: center]+36[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]X Y's Untouchable 4-5-1[/TD] [TD=align: center]19[/TD] [TD=align: center]3[/TD] [TD=align: center]6[/TD] [TD=align: center]60[/TD] [TD=align: center]40[/TD] [TD=align: center]18[/TD] [TD=align: center]+22[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]Different 451 Tactic X Y (v3)[/TD] [TD=align: center]17[/TD] [TD=align: center]7[/TD] [TD=align: center]4[/TD] [TD=align: center]58[/TD] [TD=align: center]37[/TD] [TD=align: center]17[/TD] [TD=align: center]+20[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]X Y's Pressure Balanced[/TD] [TD=align: center]14[/TD] [TD=align: center]8[/TD] [TD=align: center]6[/TD] [TD=align: center]50[/TD] [TD=align: center]50[/TD] [TD=align: center]28[/TD] [TD=align: center]+22[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center]4141 X Y Walking Dead 14.1.3[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] DISCLAIMER: Your individual results will vary with each tactic. This means that because a tactic does good or bad on this test doesn't mean you'll experience the same results. This method isn't perfect but it's a great baseline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'm getting the impression that the Shadow Striker in 4231 is not doing much at all, doesn't matter who I play there. Is it only me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 I'm getting the impression that the Shadow Striker in 4231 is not doing much at all, doesn't matter who I play there. Is it only me? Thanks next patch is coming,I'll work for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 4231 V3 From FM-Base Amazing tactic. Current using V3 4231 L. Thank you, Zera Sea.I'm managing Guarani (Brazil - Serie C). I've won Serie C (with V2 4231 L) , and now on Serie B (with V3) i'm crushing everyone. The other teams have a better squad than me. That's the greatness about this tactic. Here are the screenshots (on Portuguese): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 4231r from FM-Base Here is the results of my first season with Newcastle with the default squad and using the 4231r tactic Premier league: winners League cup: winners FA cup: sixth round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 a_ilfandy's Huge Tactics Testing Project (FM 2014) ROUND 6 Patch: 14.1.3 Mode: Normal Competition: Skrill Super League Progress: COMPLETED! Tactics entry: Skrill League A CHESTER: Dutchbrit (4-1-2-1-2 Niche) GATESHEAD: Jonathansmith (352 D-WING) GRIMSBY: Julian (4-1-2-2-1_PWNAGE) LUTON: Macey (Simple_Pressing) Skrill League B ALDERSHOT: Richie Sousa (Richie's 4-3-2-1) FOREST GREEN: Spiattalo (Total Football) KIDDERMINSTER: Tanveer (3-4-2-1 liverpool) WREXHAM: Zero Sea (V3 424R Rage) Leagues: Cup: Playoff: Selected Playoff Matches: List of Winners: - League A: Julian - League B: Zero Sea - Best offence: Zero Sea - Best defence: Julian - Cup: Zero Sea - Playoff: Macey Special Achievements: - Zero Sea won both League B and the Cup. Note: - Post #2 (Table of the Hall of Fame) has been updated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmcosta Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Its really hard to choose one of the tactics lol, great results on all of them! In terms of the mos atractive and exciting football, wich one would you pick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigas Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Love your tactic , but the defense is a black hole , i use the .. I can give 5 , 6 goals but i sufer all the time 2 , 3 goals lol ... is ok im wiin all te games allmost but the defense is a hole... Any tip to performance better the defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGxor Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Hey Zero, Just wanted to add another feedback on this forum as well. (Been lurking for a while here and it was a good occasion to create a single user for here and fmbase). I always wondered why Paris, being such a big city has no other teams like London has in the elite league. So I just started a season with Paris FC, with the goal of becoming the number one team in the city and beating PSG to top spot. At the start of the game, Paris FC is in National French division. The team was expected to finish 14th. I finished at the top spot with 3 games to spare ! I accomplished that by using a combination of your 424R and 4231L, like I did in my old save with Arsenal. Used the 4231L away and sometimes at home against "bigger team"and used the 424 as my main home tactic. Worked like a charm ! Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenaltops Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I've just started a new Arsenal save with the release of the new patch and was happy with the results I got using your 4231 tactic previously so I thought I'd give it a go. Had a mostly good pre-season, winning 5, drawing 2 and losing 1 (away to Celtic, weirdly) and then the league started. My opening fixture was away to West Brom, we won 2-1 but it wasn't the fluid kind of football I had come to expect but I chalked it down to the tactic familiarity still being relatively low. Since then I have played Pacos Ferreira in a CL qualification game (not a massive challenge) then Liverpool at home in the league and I have scored 10, conceeded zero. 5-0 in both fixtures with the Liverpool game being the most impressive seeing as they only managed 3 shots on game with none of them getting on target. I'll continue to use this and possibly report back with how it goes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm working for FM14.1.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanky_yid Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 In the V3 4231 will it make much difference to the tactic if I put the LB as a left footed player and vice versa with the RB being right footed/ I don't really like the idea of them cutting in as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 In the V3 4231 will it make much difference to the tactic if I put the LB as a left footed player and vice versa with the RB being right footed/ I don't really like the idea of them cutting in as well! AML/ML/DL: a little better with right foot; AMR/MR/DR: a little better with left foot.（You can train your players into position that is orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing") Either foot? See his best foot. Just a little better,don't mind too much. You also can use left on left and right on right. STL/AMCL/MCL: a little bit better with right foot; STR/AMCR/MCR: a little bit better with left foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's from FM-Base Hi there !I'm playing a game as a nation manager, and signed a contract with Everton in Dec 2018 (or so - a few minutes after 14.1.4 went online ). I usually go for a standard 4-5-1 of my own (that allowed me to win both world cups & Euro, Confederations Cup). But as I looked at Everton team, they had a **** load of Strikers (like 5+) and only Baines (Sir Baines ) as a side defender. So I decided to take a shot at your tactic (343R). The first season was marvelous. I took the club just before the 17th match in EPL, and it was like 3 draw 7 loses & 10 wins (at the 13th place or so). I actually won almost every game I played and managed to grab 3rd place at the end of the season AND the FA Cup. At the end of the season, Everton got taken over by a richman that allowed me to buy a couple strong players : a really awesome striker & two monsters as CB. I made a really long pre-season to get the tactic full asap and managed to do so. I'm training since then defensive positions and it works like a charm. I also did the corner change on my own, trying a few stuff that are going not so bad. I really enjoy the tactic and might consider looking for a few more striker for my nation to play it there also XD Congrats ♥ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.