Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted October 31, 2013 Is it only me, or is Robert Lewandowski joining Bayern on 01.07. in this version? Do SI know something we humble mortals don't? There was an issue in the beta data, this has since been updated but you'd need to start a new game for this to be in place. If you HAVE started a new game, let us know and we'll look into it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinkblue Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Look a couple of posts up, I've just said how to fix the freezing. It'll more than likely be because you've got custom facepacks, logos etc. Ah right cheers man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Adding columns to the tactics view screen during a game is nice. But re-sizing them is a complete nightmare. If i add a column then the Avg. Rating column disappears to the right and no matter how much i drag any column to re-size it's just gone. If two columns disappear then i can get one back by click-dragging the "wrong" direction first (it disappears to the right, so i have to re-size to the right) then back in the opposite direction to where i want the border of that column to be. That column that comes back is now visible again but it's massive. The column furthest to the right is still gone. It exists but it's not possible to view it. I get the icon to click and drag but nothing happens. If i could import the same tactical view in the in-match tactical view, as i can in the regular tactical view, then it probably wouldn't be a problem. But i can't do that. It basically says it's not possible. Any ideas or pointers would be most welcomed. This is possibly one minor thing that has annoyed me in the last few versions. Re-sizing the columns is, and have been, a complete nightmare for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torwin Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 There was an issue in the beta data, this has since been updated but you'd need to start a new game for this to be in place. If you HAVE started a new game, let us know and we'll look into it. Thanks. I have. Several new games, in fact If it makes any difference, I didn't have the older version of beta, got my key only two days ago, and I started by installing the demo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walsh Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thanks jayscfc, it seems the custom graphics are causing the issues with the Steam Workshop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayscfc Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thanks jayscfc, it seems the custom graphics are causing the issues with the Steam Workshop. No probs, thought it'd be best to get it posted on here and if it helps people who've got custom facepacks, logos etc like myself get past the freezing issue then great! One of the moderators has just informed me over on the Skinning part of the forums that simply changing the name of the "graphics" folder will also solve the freezing issue. That'd probably be quicker if your "graphics" folder is massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramonga Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 After clicking on Steam Workshop in 'downloads' from within game, it freezes with endless HDD activity. Now its doing something because if you go to your C:\Users\user\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2014 directory, there is now a 'Steam Workshop' folder, and within that, a 'graphics' folder, and within that, hundreds of other folders with hundreds of images?? No wonder its freezing! What are these folders getting created for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayscfc Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 After clicking on Steam Workshop in 'downloads' from within game, it freezes with endless HDD activity. Now its doing something because if you go to your C:\Users\user\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2014 directory, there is now a 'Steam Workshop' folder, and within that, a 'graphics' folder, and within that, hundreds of other folders with hundreds of images??No wonder its freezing! What are these folders getting created for? FM14 reads images needed for the player faces, club badges, team kits etc from folders that're called "graphics". I imagine what SI are hoping is that all these packs that you download from various sites such as SortItOutSI and fmbase will be downloadable from one place, that one place being the Steam Workshop. Anything downloaded from the Steam Workshop will then go into the Steam Workshop folder and put into the "graphics" folder in that folder and therefore FM14 can read the images. I hope that makes sense and if I'm completely wrong, which I'm more than likely am with it being 3am, then someone feel free to explain better and correct me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torwin Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 After clicking on Steam Workshop in 'downloads' from within game, it freezes with endless HDD activity. Now its doing something because if you go to your C:\Users\user\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2014 directory, there is now a 'Steam Workshop' folder, and within that, a 'graphics' folder, and within that, hundreds of other folders with hundreds of images??No wonder its freezing! What are these folders getting created for? They're holding the clubs' logos and such, it would seem. Not sure whether they are the ones original license wouldn't cover or just a copy of files already present in game... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted October 31, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 31, 2013 Workshop - please rename the graphics folder or move them and they won't get moved Try putting them back afterwards and see if this resolves your problem. We're looking into this issue at the moment, thank you for raising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Ming Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 there have two keys, 1 for beta, 1 for FULL game. if you buy from digital web site, check your email or website to get a FULL game key. then add a full key to steam, that will update to the FULL game version 14.1.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSkillz Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Played TONS of FM14 since early release and even some matches in the full version. Players seem to act like headless chickens, here are some of the problem I've encountered: 1. Players tend to hold the ball and not move... waiting for the opposition to take the ball away. 2. Players pass horribly, even those with 17+ passing, and I don't mean through balls and stuff (surprisingly bad players do it well), I mean a simple pass is executed with poor touch, vision and reaction from the other player. 3. Players shooting decisions are FAR from being real, after a lot of time with the 3D ME i thought a chance wasted would be better presented but as of now a player can get the ball run run run until his 1v1 with the keeper and shoot it to the corner flag/ straight into the keeper's hands. 4. Players seem to dribble STRAIGHT into the oppositions feet, i had Ben Arfa and Ronaldo, both very good dribblers which sometimes do go on good runs but a fair share of those attempts have been wasted by not thinking, running as if they don't know the opponent is infront of them. 5. Defenders more often than not ignore instructions and are just looking at the opponent player dribble and mark him from afar even tho i have mark tighter set on them. There is a lot more but this is what i can say for fact that is flawed IMO. sorry for the (probably) horrible english. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayban_DK Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 When doing an instant result in classic, the ass man still does not make subs. Will the patch later today fix that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Workshop - please rename the graphics folder or move them and they won't get movedTry putting them back afterwards and see if this resolves your problem. We're looking into this issue at the moment, thank you for raising. Yep, fixed my issue. I waited 30 minutes earlier to see if it would load, (I tabbed out, I wasn't just watching the screen), renamed my graphics folder to bgraphics just then, and voila instant access. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterprise1 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Well done SI. Excellent job. Only two things have put me off thus far. Player ratings are simply awful. It also seems that you are unable to criticise a player without an adverse affect of their morale. This was always a very important part of the way I play. Morale in general needs improving to be honest. Apart from that, great job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajc126 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I would love to have someone from SI explain why there is no mass-edit of "player data" function, for example position or current/potential ability, in the editor. It was there in previous versions. I would also like to know if they plan to address this with a patch or some such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil1969 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The one thing that spoiled fm13 for me and ultimately stopped me buying it was the ball movement, as in the players looked like they were playing on an ice rink and the ball bounced and would speed up. It happened on the demo, not nearly as much granted, but can anyone tell me if the ball acts same/simialr way for full version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted October 31, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 31, 2013 When doing an instant result in classic, the ass man still does not make subs. Will the patch later today fix that? We're currently looking into that issue at the moment, thanks for letting us know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Started with Swansea, everything fine, put the team together, make a few signings, qualify for the next Europa League round, play two EPL matches, and then crash and I have to start all over again. Well, crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Been playing fine for last 2 weeks. Been playing on the full release fine for a few hours too. Just moved the megapack into my graphics folder and loaded up the game again, clicks dont seem to be responding very well, think its making me double click everything but not sure, sometimes it takes more its very strange. I play on typical high end windows computer with gaming mouse. EDIT: Everytime I try to change the rendering mode it takes me back to the 'my profile' screen! EDIT: Infact if I try to click any of the drop lists on the Interface page it makes me back to the profile page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Adding columns to the tactics view screen during a game is nice. But re-sizing them is a complete nightmare.If i add a column then the Avg. Rating column disappears to the right and no matter how much i drag any column to re-size it's just gone. If two columns disappear then i can get one back by click-dragging the "wrong" direction first (it disappears to the right, so i have to re-size to the right) then back in the opposite direction to where i want the border of that column to be. That column that comes back is now visible again but it's massive. The column furthest to the right is still gone. It exists but it's not possible to view it. I get the icon to click and drag but nothing happens. If i could import the same tactical view in the in-match tactical view, as i can in the regular tactical view, then it probably wouldn't be a problem. But i can't do that. It basically says it's not possible. Any ideas or pointers would be most welcomed. This is possibly one minor thing that has annoyed me in the last few versions. Re-sizing the columns is, and have been, a complete nightmare for me. It LOOKS like it is gone, but it doesn't really disappear. It's a bit of a nightmare, but if you do get a column that disappears, try and drag it open from the far right hand side. Your cursor will change to a double side arrow pointing left/right. It is pretty much the same thing you would do if you were trying to make the very last column narrower. Instead of making it narrower, you end up dragging the column you're looking for into view. Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailstu Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My game is not updating to the full version, still on version 14.1.1 Brought from Greenman gaming and been playing the BETA and now its not updating to the full game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 some one else is happening that th game lags when the plays reach the goal?? i saw its because of the stadium size.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernum Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 When doing an instant result in classic, the ass man still does not make subs. Will the patch later today fix that? There is a patch again later today ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_aberdeen Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 But of course! I had started a game on the beta last week, but having just updated to 14.1.2, it seems to have completely gone, bit annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaulHH Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My game is not updating to the full version, still on version 14.1.1Brought from Greenman gaming and been playing the BETA and now its not updating to the full game? Go to Green Man Gaming website, log int to your account, check the Games library and you will notice Football Manager 2014 will have 2 CD-Keys, activate the 2nd one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babak G Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I had started a game on the beta last week, but having just updated to 14.1.2, it seems to have completely gone, bit annoying. Check your LOAD GAME not LOAD LAST GAME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifinnem Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 We're currently looking into that issue at the moment, thanks for letting us know. I have a suspicion this is also happening when you holiday a game in the full version - ie Ass M makes no substitutions. Worked fine during early beta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babak G Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 There is a patch again later today ? No one has suggested that from SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailstu Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Go to Green Man Gaming website, log int to your account, check the Games library and you will notice Football Manager 2014 will have 2 CD-Keys, activate the 2nd one. Thank you:) now updating to the full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Been playing fine for last 2 weeks. Been playing on the full release fine for a few hours too.Just moved the megapack into my graphics folder and loaded up the game again, clicks dont seem to be responding very well, think its making me double click everything but not sure, sometimes it takes more its very strange. I play on typical high end windows computer with gaming mouse. EDIT: Everytime I try to change the rendering mode it takes me back to the 'my profile' screen! EDIT: Infact if I try to click any of the drop lists on the Interface page it makes me back to the profile page. Adding to this problem, I cant make substitutes, nothing happens when I try to drag the players over, meaning I literally cant play if I get an injury.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It's not crashed.... just busy.. wait a few minutes and it should go into the workshop Any ETA, after 15mins I'm still waiting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayban_DK Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Quote Originally Posted by Vernum View Post There is a patch again later today ? No one has suggested that from SI. Well there should be. The ratings is seriously flawed and even though it sounds like a small cosmetic problem, it reverberate through a huge range of aspects in the game like the players reaction to criticism, morale, player value, lack of training effort due to lack of morale due to bad reaction to criticism due to flawed rating of players otherwise good game etc. Another aspect that need attention is the lack of simple shortpassing. Too many passes end up as an interception due to what I gather to be poor offensive positioning combined with lack of offensive movement up front. Everybody should watch a match in full before praising the ME. There are still some strange things going on that doesn't make much sense. - Players who continuously make deep crosses where no players other than the opposing keeper are to to receive. - Short passes who goes straight to opposition in midfield - A lot of crosses hit the goal cross bar and either bounce of to a throw in or a corner - A lot of defensive headers from own penalty area is headed straight down field no more than ten meters, often to the opposing AMC or MC. - There is a noticable ice-skating effect when watching the match in 2D - Strikers who seems overly passive when given the ball in opportune places. - Keepers still not following orders. It's a lot better than in early beta, but it seems I have no way to tell the keeper and defence than one defender, no matter who, should go deep to collect the ball. Either way, the game shows a lot of promise. I'm just disappointed that this years early release ME problems is not less than last year. Seems like Groundhog Day around here some times. :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancy Gaffot Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Clicking on a steam workshop tab makes my game freeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_crab Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Wow just downloaded dark skin and it is very pleasing on the eye. So glad to be rid of the white background as that was taking me to migraine country. Don't know why dark skin isn't the default with the option of changing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Any ETA, after 15mins I'm still waiting After reading the rest of the thread (tend to post as I go along), found that renaming the 'graphics' folder solved it. Workshop in the FM coding must move all the 'graphics folder data' it finds over to workshop (and give each graphic their own folder using the unique id). Will take a very long time if using the facepacks etc. and put the in a 'graphics' folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_crab Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I normally keep steam in offline mode as I only play FM and not online so now I have updated to the full game am I sweet to knock it into offline mode for another year? Or would it be wise to see if any further updates are released in the coming days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fond Foat Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I also use offline mode. Just check in the forums for when an update has been made. SI generally sticky it or make a headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien37 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 dont know if anyone has all ready raised this probleam but while i was ready to move graphic from fm folder in order to download the dark skin i noticed a very big folder, in FM14 a "steam_workshop" files folder is being created and all graphics i have are stored again (nearly 5GB) each one in a seperate folder, each folder has for example one facepack and a config file for it . i assume thats a probleam.hope it will be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_crab Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I won't get to play the full game until I'm off work on Friday so can anyone tell me if the transfer bug has been fixed? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancy Gaffot Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 After reading the rest of the thread (tend to post as I go along), found that renaming the 'graphics' folder solved it.Workshop in the FM coding must move all the 'graphics folder data' it finds over to workshop (and give each graphic their own folder using the unique id). Will take a very long time if using the facepacks etc. and put the in a 'graphics' folder. Correct! So people who have been waiting for 20-30 minutes actually have 6 gb less space now if using the facepack because it's been duplicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Genuinely cannot believe, after two weeks of beta, the release version of the match engine has this many defensive bugs. Even ignoring the full back ratings bug (which affects morale, discipline etc), you have a situation where crosses can't be cut out, players can't follow up on a challenge, players STILL run into the box without even an attempt at a tackle and you may as well not have full backs on the pitch. Since installing the final version of the beta, my relegation-tipped Conference side has enjoyed results of 4-3, 3-4, 5-4, 5-2, 3-3, 3-3, 4-4, 5-2 and 2-4 in the first 19 league fixtures! And this is the release day engine?! Maybe it should be a month long beta process? Because you can't have a release day engine in this state, with defending even worse than the initial beta build where there was an issue with players backing off and not making tackles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Ah fantastic, my summer signing left back is now not speaking to me over getting a fine for consecutive 4.8 match rating performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Genuinely cannot believe, after two weeks of beta, the release version of the match engine has this many defensive bugs. Even ignoring the full back ratings bug (which affects morale, discipline etc), you have a situation where crosses can't be cut out, players can't follow up on a challenge, players STILL run into the box without even an attempt at a tackle and you may as well not have full backs on the pitch.Since installing the final version of the beta, my relegation-tipped Conference side has enjoyed results of 4-3, 3-4, 5-4, 5-2, 3-3, 3-3, 4-4, 5-2 and 2-4 in the first 19 league fixtures! And this is the release day engine?! Maybe it should be a month long beta process? Because you can't have a release day engine in this state, with defending even worse than the initial beta build where there was an issue with players backing off and not making tackles. *****ing hell. And yet there are others, like me, who are not seeing these silly high scoring games. Highest that I have had, is a 2-2. I am seeing crosses being cut out. I am seeing fullbacks tackle too. They are defensively far from perfect, but it isn't completely broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdictor Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Just downloaded the editor, trying to launch it and it says "failed to find language data, could not select language". Any ideas? I had the same problem, it was because I had FM installed on my SSD and I installed the editor on my HDD. Uninstalled and installed on the ssd, problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Found the fix for how to get the Dark Skin working!If, like me, you've got custom facepacks, logos, etc etc then do the following: 1) Move the Graphics folder out of the Sports Interactive folder located in My Documents and put it on your desktop. 2) Fire up Steam 3) Go onto the Workshop for FM14 4) Subscribe to the Dark Skin 5) Restart Steam 6) Fire up FM14 7) On the start screen, click Downloads 8) Click Steam Workshop 9) It should load up immediately, no freezing at all 10) Install it 11) Go into Preferences and change it Thank you,this worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlm_77 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Transfers still bothering me a great deal. Won't any AI club at all actually bid the value or MORE than the value of my players? AI teams coming in with ridiculously low offers STILL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien37 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 yeap...just came to raise this use also. transfer probleam seems to still continue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebacid Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Not quite sure if this is a "bug" so to speak or just a part of coding that the coders haven't been able to implement in the game but... When watching the game in 3D mode players never collide... There seems to be no player collision what-so-ever. They glide through each other like ghosts and this is really an annoying mistake in the game engine because it takes out so much of realism. We should see players colliding with each other, grappling with each other in tight situations and never in any circumstance should they just walk through each other. This is a major thing that should be prioritized to be fixed for the next patch! Collision detection between players. No more players running through each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My full game is working perfect . Two days ago my beta game crashed for the first time (right after i forgot to save it for a few weeks...) So i lost 4 games(three wins and one draw).. it was a sign.. because one minute later my pregnant wife said 'we have to leave to the hospital' .. five hours later my son Alexander was born Thank you Si for the realism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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