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I hope you're joking?

Not at all, I am really enjoying it. I bet the vast majority of peoples issues with the game aren't to do with the match engine but the instructions they are giving to their players (their tactics!!!)

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Okay here we go, my posts need mod approvement to be shown?

Somehow my post disappears an I got no notification about it?

Are you damn serious?

Your game is NO FUN at all and If you want to post on your forum you just deny negative feedback?

Seriously, this one was the last FM I bought from SIgames.

Cheers from a customer since 2009, wo enjoyed former versions.

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Not at all, I am really enjoying it. I bet the vast majority of peoples issues with the game aren't to do with the match engine but the instructions they are giving to their players (their tactics!!!)

post screens of results and stats.

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Well, spent all morning playing and overall I'm finding it much more enjoyable and more of a challenge than FM2013.

Pros;

Game flows better generally.

Really enjoying the ME, though it does need a few tweaks.

The in-match tactical options are great. Clicking on a few buttons to give instructions, love it.

The assistant's comments and ability to act on them, very good.

The increased options in terms of talking to the captain and players, much better.

Loving the different colour boots on players very realistic.

Transfer negotiations, much better.

Cons;

ME, defenders need tweaking further. Some very odd-looking tackles on the flanks.

ME, second half whistle goes a second or two after kick-off.

ME, I like that some players have long sleeve shirts now, but a few have arms that are a different colour to the top half of the sleeves. It doesn't look right.

That's all. Really enjoying it otherwise.

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This free agent issue is really starting to do my head in now.

I got promoted to League 1 in Scotland in my first season, and most of my best players left in the summer. Annoying, but it happens. So I'm now having to rebuild the squad, but what chance do you have when this happens?

I offer a midfielder £200 a week (will be one of my top earners), with a squad status of 'key player'. He accepted the offer, and then a day or so later it popped up another couple of clubs were also in for him. He eventually decided to sign for League 2 club East Stirlingshire on a whopping £75 a week. So he's accepted less than half of what I offered for a league below at a club 10 miles along the road.

NEVER HAPPENING. :herman:

Except it does. All the freaking time. It is the one part of the game that really annoys me, and makes it doubly difficult to try and build a decent squad, particularly after promotion where I'm gonnae be favourites for the drop anyway.

Sort that out, and we have a great game.

Second this. Reputation is not dynamic enough perhaps, or there is something broken about 'part-time' contracts?

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Second this. Reputation is not dynamic enough perhaps, or there is something broken about 'part-time' contracts?

It happens for any player, I had sent a few bug report in beta like that, one was about a player that got a 11k gbp p/w offer from me but instead decided to join lower rep club for 5k. He had no preference for either club in his personal info.

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I think its about time SI start beta testing each match engine release via a larger audience. Maybe in the form of match engine only update, separating it from the main game. The in house testing is clearly not cutting it for all the variances that the mass audience goes through.

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I think its about time SI start beta testing each match engine release via a larger audience. Maybe in the form of match engine only update, separating it from the main game. The in house testing is clearly not cutting it for all the variances that the mass audience goes through.

We already have quite a sizeable beta testing team that looks at the match engine prior to release. The problem is (as you've seen for yourself if you played the pre-release beta) that every little change can have massive consequences on the entire match engine. If the testing team raises the fact that there's too many shots on goal for example, a small tweak in the players shooting decisions may mean that player start not shooting in good goalscoring positions. It's very difficult, even with a large testing team, to be able to get the match engine exactly right when there are an insane amount of variables within the ME environment.

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This free agent issue is really starting to do my head in now.

I got promoted to League 1 in Scotland in my first season, and most of my best players left in the summer. Annoying, but it happens. So I'm now having to rebuild the squad, but what chance do you have when this happens?

I offer a midfielder £200 a week (will be one of my top earners), with a squad status of 'key player'. He accepted the offer, and then a day or so later it popped up another couple of clubs were also in for him. He eventually decided to sign for League 2 club East Stirlingshire on a whopping £75 a week. So he's accepted less than half of what I offered for a league below at a club 10 miles along the road.

NEVER HAPPENING. :herman:

Except it does. All the freaking time. It is the one part of the game that really annoys me, and makes it doubly difficult to try and build a decent squad, particularly after promotion where I'm gonnae be favourites for the drop anyway.

Sort that out, and we have a great game.

Please raise the issue on our bugs forum, ideally with a save game example so we can reproduce this internally and fix it. I'm afraid it's very difficult to fix things we're not seeing ourselves. Transfer bugs forum can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/367-Transfers-Contracts-and-Responsibilities

Many thanks.

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This free agent issue is really starting to do my head in now.

I got promoted to League 1 in Scotland in my first season, and most of my best players left in the summer. Annoying, but it happens. So I'm now having to rebuild the squad, but what chance do you have when this happens?

I offer a midfielder £200 a week (will be one of my top earners), with a squad status of 'key player'. He accepted the offer, and then a day or so later it popped up another couple of clubs were also in for him. He eventually decided to sign for League 2 club East Stirlingshire on a whopping £75 a week. So he's accepted less than half of what I offered for a league below at a club 10 miles along the road.

NEVER HAPPENING. :herman:

Except it does. All the freaking time. It is the one part of the game that really annoys me, and makes it doubly difficult to try and build a decent squad, particularly after promotion where I'm gonnae be favourites for the drop anyway.

Sort that out, and we have a great game.

Not sure what you're talking about mate - I've had no problems with signing free agents, so what does that tell you? :)

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Please raise the issue on our bugs forum, ideally with a save game example so we can reproduce this internally and fix it. I'm afraid it's very difficult to fix things we're not seeing ourselves. Transfer bugs forum can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/367-Transfers-Contracts-and-Responsibilities

Many thanks.

Have you managed to reproduce the ones I had reported in beta about the same issue, I havent seen any confirmation from staff in the thread before the beta forum was closed.

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Has there been an update recently that's caused something to go crazy with prices? They all seem to have gone up by about 50% since my last game.

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We already have quite a sizeable beta testing team that looks at the match engine prior to release. The problem is (as you've seen for yourself if you played the pre-release beta) that every little change can have massive consequences on the entire match engine. If the testing team raises the fact that there's too many shots on goal for example, a small tweak in the players shooting decisions may mean that player start not shooting in good goalscoring positions. It's very difficult, even with a large testing team, to be able to get the match engine exactly right when there are an insane amount of variables within the ME environment.

Maybe exploring something like a constant work in progress with the ME via steam updates, i.e. anybody who wants to test the ME can if they sign up. Thus providing a wider sample base and a thoroughly tested ME for anybody who doesn't sign up. As you've said yourself with the pre-release beta, you had a wider sample size and saw problems occur. Surely this is the best way of going forward and providing better updates for the ME.

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Has there been an update recently that's caused something to go crazy with prices? They all seem to have gone up by about 50% since my last game.

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try to change your currency to something else like $ , apply then change back to gbp.

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try to change your currency to something else like $ , apply then change back to gbp.
cheers mate. Never seen that happen before.

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I think that one bug that i discover is the "short option corner". When the corner taker passes short, noone marking him and the player run with the ball unmarking and shots. Many many goals can be scored with this way.

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I think that one bug that i discover is the "short option corner". When the corner taker passes short, noone marking him and the player run with the ball unmarking and shots. Many many goals can be scored with this way.

Correct, that one is already on the bug list :thup:

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Please raise the issue on our bugs forum, ideally with a save game example so we can reproduce this internally and fix it. I'm afraid it's very difficult to fix things we're not seeing ourselves. Transfer bugs forum can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/367-Transfers-Contracts-and-Responsibilities

Many thanks.

I'm staggered you've never seen this considering it's happened on every FM from as far back as I can remember. The fact there's so many players in the game means you can always just go sign someone else, but it's very annoying. Next time I go for a player where I know there's other teams interested, I'll try and get a before/after save and post it in the bugs forum. Although given this has been happening for years, I don't see it being fixed anytime soon.

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Not sure what you're talking about mate - I've had no problems with signing free agents, so what does that tell you? :)

Ah, the classic forum pastime of responding to the poster, not the post. Classy.

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He's an Arsenal fan who not only is a season ticket holder, he regularly watches the reserve and youth sides. You clearly know you should take it up as a data issue etc. So the next time I see you question his competence in this manner you will recieve a ban. The feedback on this thread has really been excellent, especially on picking up issues, probably the best ive ever seen it, but I'm really getting sick of people having personal digs SI staff, moderators, researchers etc. We've tried to not go down the banning route, giving people plenty of warnings, but seems a certain few are ignoring this, so I'm going to quote Neil Brock:

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We really really appreciate all the people taking time to keep posting, even when stuff is clearly frustrating them. But for those few spoiling it, consider yourselves on notice.

So having a differing view = questioning competence = a ban? I watch football, so if anybody on here ever disagrees with me, will you ban them please?

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A 4-3-3 attacking style away to one of the best sides in the league? With route one tactical instruction? And you're wondering where you went wrong?

If this is a wind up, then well done, you got me!!

Well I still managed to beat Chelsea :cool:

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never seen so many negative posts.. i mean i wish there was a competitor to fm so that at least they would put more effort into this game.... just really poor

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I think that one bug that i discover is the "short option corner". When the corner taker passes short, noone marking him and the player run with the ball unmarking and shots. Many many goals can be scored with this way.

this game is already hard enough why remove bugs which could go on our favor pfff

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I think there is fifa manager but never tried that game to be honest, as I avoid ea product.

yeah true that game is even worse... lol to me its not a 'competitor' :)

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never seen so many negative posts.. i mean i wish there was a competitor to fm so that at least they would put more effort into this game.... just really poor

So do I. Then you'd realise how good a game this actually is. Remember after the 'split' there was another Championship Manager series for a while? Just let that sink in for a second.

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I don't want to keep going on about it negatively on the forums but the lack of friction/ice effect...is that something you guys acknowledge/are working on fixing/and not being smart but are able to fix ? I just find it very frustrating to watch and think with that issue sorted it would an amazing experience to watch the match with the enhanced graphics and ever progressing state of the ME

Kriss...I saw you alluding to this being sorted in the beta..would really appreciate some feedback of any sort

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So do I. Then you'd realise how good a game this actually is. Remember after the 'split' there was another Championship Manager series for a while? Just let that sink in for a second.

'just let that sink in for a second'... lol ok sorry did i hurt your feelings? just look back at the 1825 posts tell me how many are negative and how many are positive...

fm is awesome but its not a 'game' anymore.. anyone coming in as a beginner has no chance

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'just let that sink in for a second'... lol ok sorry did i hurt your feelings? just look back at the 1825 posts tell me how many are negative and how many are positive...

fm is awesome but its not a 'game' anymore.. anyone coming in as a beginner has no chance

Not sure what you mean here. Do you want them to simplify fm to make it more beginner friendly? isnt fmc already there for that purpose?

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'just let that sink in for a second'... lol ok sorry did i hurt your feelings? just look back at the 1825 posts tell me how many are negative and how many are positive...

fm is awesome but its not a 'game' anymore.. anyone coming in as a beginner has no chance

Which is one of the reasons they introduced FM Classic.

This game is a simulation after all. The more you put into it, the more you'll get out of it. There's plenty of simple online football manager games if you don't want to have to think about what you're doing.

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Not sure what you mean here. Do you want them to simplify fm to make it more beginner friendly? isnt fmc already there for that purpose?

correct me if i am wrong but its just less features.. difficulty is the same (same ME)

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correct me if i am wrong but its just less features.. difficulty is the same (same ME)

Ah you were talking about difficulty, I think a dev mentioned it was using the same match engine so on that point you are right, maybe adding an option in fmc to make opposite team less challenging would help new players?

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correct me if i am wrong but its just less features.. difficulty is the same (same ME)

Not quite. For example, there's no team talks to affect morale, and changing tactics game to game has less effect on team cohesion, so it's a good bit more basic. You still need to work at it to be successful, but it's not as challenging as the full fat game.

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Not quite. For example, there's no team talks to affect morale, and changing tactics game to game has less effect on team cohesion, so it's a good bit more basic. You still need to work at it to be successful, but it's not as challenging as the full fat game.

Training etc is taken out of your hands as I think so there is quite a bit less you need to get to grips with. My 11 year old son loves it, the full fat version is too much for him.

Back on topic: Still feeling the love for this year's version. :D

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any one played in poland (ekstraklasa)

the polish cup games are all scheduled on mondays and tuesdays when I have europa league games on thursdays and weekend matches...

anyone got this issue?

was the same in fm13

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My cursor keeps disappearing in game. It's irregular but happening more and more often.

It seems to happen most of all when I close the steam overlay. Is there a fix for this? It's frustrating to have to keep restarting.

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please please please fix set pieces.. i really tired of conceding goals from set pieces at every match.

and wingers or full backs are making stupid moves when they got into penalty area. they do everything for lose the ball.

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Twice in a couple of months I've seen a keeper rush to catch the ball which is bouncing with high speed (going out for a goal kick) only to catch it and have momentum carry them over the line which results in the keeper getting a red card for handling outside of the area.

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Seeing an unrealistic amount of corners being scored at the near post (both for and against)

Anyone else seeing this?

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AI Transfers.. I know Chelsea sign a lot of players they don't need IRL but currently their choice of Goalkeepers in the second season are: Cech, Courtios, Zeigler, Muselra. That's pretty much 4 world class goalkeepers. Are they just bonkers on the game as well?

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never seen so many negative posts.. i mean i wish there was a competitor to fm so that at least they would put more effort into this game.... just really poor

You should take a look at last years' feedback threads, then you'd see far more negativity.

To imply that SI don't work hard at the game is an insult, try and show more respect instead of firing off the cuff remarks about.

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