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Hello all, has anyone had any luck with the 4-4-1-1?? Thinking of having Barkley as an SS behind Lukaku in a DLF maybe. Just starting up a new save.

Am a Gooner but have always had a massive soft spot for Everton - mainly cos I hated Liverpool so much as a kid :D

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Seriously considering a Toffees save but have a couple of questions...

1) Can you keep hold of Baines, Barkley, Mirallas et al easily enough or do they kick up a stink? In my Tottenham save they've all moved on after just 2 or 3 years.

2) Any chance of keeping Lukaku past 2013/14? I assume not?

3) Who do you recommend to take his place?

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Aaaaaaand one more...

4) How quickly does the club usually get taken over? Would I likely lose my job when it does?

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Aaaaaaand one more...

4) How quickly does the club usually get taken over? Would I likely lose my job when it does?

1) Mirallas and Barkley you can keep with ease Baines is more likely to kick up a fuss as he did for me, only thing you might get with Barkley is him asking for a new deal

2) Not a chance at all

3) Thats exactly why I'm struggling for goals in the 2014/15 season Cardozo simply isn't up for it

4) I haven't been taken over but if you are you're likely to keep your job if you've done a good job

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Seriously considering a Toffees save but have a couple of questions...

1) Can you keep hold of Baines, Barkley, Mirallas et al easily enough or do they kick up a stink? In my Tottenham save they've all moved on after just 2 or 3 years.

2) Any chance of keeping Lukaku past 2013/14? I assume not?

3) Who do you recommend to take his place?

1) Baines was moaning about wanting to move to a bigger club almost straight away - I soon sorted him out by talking to him and offering him a monster new contract (about £60k) Barkley & McCarthy both whinged when I signed Honda too due to rival players etc so I sold Gibson and they're fine now

2) Zero - I got Jordan Rhodes from Blackburn who has been superb so far!

3) Jordan Rhodes :D

4) in previous takeovers at Everton I've never lost my job

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Thanks guys.

I got started last night, but things aren't going so well so far...

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I always turn off first window budgets so I'm playing with the current squad til January at least. Been working on tactics, a little staff reshuffle and identifying future transfer targets. It looks to me like I'll need a good, young CB, a CM, a young winger for each side of the pitch and a striker over the January and summer windows.

How have kids like Ledson worked out for you guys? He looks really promising in my save.

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Sort of regretting requesting that. Gonna be absolutely mired in debt forever.

Wow, I assumed this was a never-going-to-happen request! May stay clear of it myself for a few years as it's bound to hamper finances for building a squad.

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You absolutely need a new stadium to move forward with Everton though. I've expanded to 50,000 and it's simply not enough to sustain my wagebill.

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You absolutely need a new stadium to move forward with Everton though. I've expanded to 50,000 and it's simply not enough to sustain my wagebill.
Alright swisso. Merry Christmas, mate. Do corporate facilities have a large impact on match day revenues in the game, as they do in real life?

Also, was hoping the game would do a slightly better job with the name than "Everton Stadium" :-s

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Hey guys! I have struggled to get interested in a save in FM14 thus far, but after having such a great Everton save in FM13 I have decided to give The Blues a go again. The young English talent in Barkely, Lundstram, Kenny, Stones, and Ledson is what made the team particularly attractive, as I am a big fan of building up a strong English core in the Prem teams I manage. So, let's begin.

Transfers

Like I said before, I am looking to have a team of predominantly English players, building around the young talent already here. With that said, I decided to cash in on Mirallas and see what I could buy! I also cancelled Barry's loan. He's a decent player, but not worth 72k a week in my eyes.

Transfers Out

Kevin Mirallas - £19m (AS Monaco)

Nikica Jelavic - £6.5m (Marsielle)

John Heitinga - £3.2m (Fulham)

Total: £28.58m raised

Transfers In

Adam Campbell - £6.25m (Newcastle)

Matthew Briggs - £2.8m (Fulham)

James Chester - £3.5m (Hull)

Ralf - £3.6m (Corinthians)

Tom Ince - £3.2m (Blackpool)

Paulo Assuncao - Free

Total: £19.85m Spent

Summary: While losing some proven first team talent, I got younger and made a bit of money. Ralf and Assuncao provide good 1 and 2 options at DM, while Campbell will give me something to look forward to after Lukaku heads back to London.

Squad

I will be playing a 4-1-2-2-1; Fuss's tactic to be exact.

GK: Howard, Joel

DR: Coleman, Stones

DCR: Jagielka, Distin

DCL: Chester, Duffy

DL: Baines, Briggs

DM: Ralf, Assuncao

CMR: McCarthy, Gibson, Lundstram

CML: Barkley, Osman

AMR: Ince, Deulofeu

AML: Pienaar, Gueye

ST: Lukaku, Campbell

I am looking to move Naismith and Oviedo, but until I do they will both be used as cover given their versatility.

Results

So far I have played two matches in the Premier League and am off to a good start:

at West Brom (3-0) Pienaar absolutely shredded West Brom's defense, bagging a brace in the process, while Tom Ince scored on his debut!

vs Chelsea (4-1) Still can't believe how well the squad played! A brace from young Campbell on his debut was the highlight of the match. Chester bagged a goal on his second outing, while McCarthy finished with the last goal.

So far so good! I will be back around January or so :cool:

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Alright swisso. Merry Christmas, mate. Do corporate facilities have a large impact on match day revenues in the game, as they do in real life?

Also, was hoping the game would do a slightly better job with the name than "Everton Stadium" :-s

I would hope they would! I've just changed mine using the IGE from 1 to 20, waiting to see if theres any change in 'Match day revenue' because I'd expect there to be noticably more revenue generated.

As for the stadium name, I have an option of choosing certain favoured personnel that are suitable for a future stadium name, but I'm not entirely sure Dixie Dean and Alan Ball would be incorporated into any future stadium!

It's a shame we can't input names ourselves such as the local towns and boroughs.

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I would hope they would! I've just changed mine using the IGE from 1 to 20, waiting to see if theres any change in 'Match day revenue' because I'd expect there to be noticably more revenue generated.

As for the stadium name, I have an option of choosing certain favoured personnel that are suitable for a future stadium name, but I'm not entirely sure Dixie Dean and Alan Ball would be incorporated into any future stadium!

It's a shame we can't input names ourselves such as the local towns and boroughs.

it's football manager not football chairman ect ect ;).

you weren't at the match today btw were u swisso? saw someone with a big sega jacket on infront of me

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it's football manager not football chairman ect ect ;).

you weren't at the match today btw were u swisso? saw someone with a big sega jacket on infront of me

Sega jacket :D

Sadly not, had to work!

I've looked for a Football Manager umbrella though, couldn't find owt :(

I'd probably get told off for using FM as some kind of official credential though!

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Sega jacket :D

Sadly not, had to work!

I've looked for a Football Manager umbrella though, couldn't find owt :(

I'd probably get told off for using FM as some kind of official credential though!

SI clearly trying to undermine you then :D

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Did you notice any difference changing the corporate facilities from 1 to 20 mate? Would be a shame if there wasn't much change

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I'm in 2015.

Had an amazing tactic that I used in FM13 and adapted - it is now no use due to the recent update.

First season I came 2nd - 1 point behind united.

Second season was one that I wasn't expecting at all but boy was it good.

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Now this is my current team, I'm focusing on building up Barkley to be a world beater and making everton one of the best teams in the world and one of the richest.

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Notable Transfers:

IN: Papadopolous 15mil

Honda Free

Scezezney 3.6mil - Arsenal got Valdes and listed him - weird I know

Volland 20mil

Godin 750k

Alderweirald 8mil

Sneijder 5mil

Balanta 10mil

Schurlle 6mil

Ramirez 6mil

Out: Jelavic 8mil to Moscow

Miralles 27mil to PSG

Gibson 4mil to Nice

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Obviously you've had great success, but are you REALLY playing Barkley as a ball winning midfielder?

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Obviously you've had great success, but are you REALLY playing Barkley as a ball winning midfielder?

No, I'd just played a game and let my assistant choose. I play him as an IF on the right or an AP in CM or CAM

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I'm in 2015.

Had an amazing tactic that I used in FM13 and adapted - it is now no use due to the recent update.

First season I came 2nd - 1 point behind united.

Second season was one that I wasn't expecting at all but boy was it good.

So can see the basics of that formation, but what settings do you use? (Team/player settings)

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So can see the basics of that formation, but what settings do you use? (Team/player settings)

This formation isn't as effective anymore due to the 14.2 update, sadly, but it is still not bad. The one I currently use is this: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/378567-FM-2014-14.2-Best-of-Best.-You-won-t-regret-it.

I can still post the tactic if you like though

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ah no worrys mate, i'll check out the one you linked though, similar shape to what i'm playing (and have built squad around)

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ah no worrys mate, i'll check out the one you linked though, similar shape to what i'm playing (and have built squad around)

Yeah it's brilliant. Using it on bot of my saves and winning easily. Good times :)

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Did you notice any difference changing the corporate facilities from 1 to 20 mate? Would be a shame if there wasn't much change

Haven't played much since I changed it, should be able to report back by Monday :)

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Managed to secure a 4th place finish in the 2014/15 season even better than that I got 20mil to spend looking for a CB as Distin and Jagielka are getting on, a wide player and possibly another striker

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Managed to secure a 4th place finish in the 2014/15 season even better than that I got 20mil to spend looking for a CB as Distin and Jagielka are getting on, a wide player and possibly another striker

Balanta for CB if he's not been snatched up... Mateo Mustacchio is another good one.

I'm really no good for finding strikers or wingers but can I suggest Iancu. He's an AMC but can be a quality AML too

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Only noticed this forum at the end of Season 2 -

Season 1 =

- FA Cup Final

- 4th Place in EPL (70pts)

I Signed;

Will Hughes

Ashley Williams

Manuel Fernandez

Peter Whittingham

Peter Crouch (Jan) - Lukaku 3 month injury

Gaitan (loan)

Season 2 =

- FA Cup Final loss again :(

- CL Last 16

- 5th Place in EPL (68pts)

Kept hold of;

Lukaku 22m (seems alot struggled to)

Barry

I Signed;

Quagliarella

Zaha(loan) untill Jan

Torres(loan) Jan - May

Finished lower in the Prem in 2nd season probs should have signed a couple of more players with the extra games in CL stretched my squad although my main problem seems to be goal scoring. Lukaku or any striker has not done well both seasons for me. Going to need to change something going into Season 3 but not sure what ...

Best 11 (Season 2)=

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Howard won Golden Glove, with 16 clean sheets.

Team of the Year Players = Howard + Baines

Top Goalscorer = Lukaku/Barkley; 6

Top Assists = Baines; 11

Highest Rated = Distin; 7.28

Fans Player of the Year = Distin

On to Season 3....

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dunno why people getting rid of jelavic im haveing great success with him and not with lukaku hes got me 15 goals in 18 games so far in prem defiantly worth keeping in my eyes

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Won't be getting you goals after I've finished working on the update :D

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Won't be getting you goals after I've finished working on the update :D

but....but..... the QPR match :D

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but....but..... the QPR match :D

We both know he had a rocket up his arse impressing his future employers ;)

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Haven't played much since I changed it, should be able to report back by Monday :)

any news on this swisso?

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Jesus, what does it take to get a 10.0? :eek:

Against Spurs too, not some lower league cannon fodder

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Changed the Corporate Facilities to 20 and its nearly doubled my match day revenue.

Noticed that Corporate Facilities never increase when Goodison is expanded, even to a 50,000 seater, so ive raised a bug over this.

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Jesus, what does it take to get a 10.0? :eek:

Against Spurs too, not some lower league cannon fodder

3 assists :D

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Will provide a longer update if need be, but I won the CL and league again third season and now have a new player running the centre of my midfield other than Ross Barkley who has hit a ceiling in terms of development. Jack Wilshere fits in perfectly and can play both as my AP-A and DLP-S thanks to his excellent all-round stats. Still very young as well and better him playing for me than in 9th place Arsenal.

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So my 2nd season with Everton has been very mixed so far. We've struggled to cope with the added fixtures that CL football brings and the extra games against stronger opposition has really highlighted the old age of some of my players and the lack of quality within the squad. With the poor finances of the club there was not much I could do in the transfer windows and that has led to a total of 6 loanees being at the club (4 joined in the summer, 2 in January).

The season up to January has been very mixed but I think the results reflect the ability of my squad - solid, if unspectacular. Going into the New Year we were 8th in the Premier League but well within touching distance of a top 7 finish. We were knocked out of the CL in the group stages after finishing 3rd but the Europa League has drawn us a winnable tie against Stuttgart. In the League we have done very well and were into the semi-finals against a Championship Huddersfield side.

January 2015 review - Everton season 2

The main weakness of the squad has been scoring goals, so in the transfer window with my limited funds, I dived into the loan market. I was in search of an AMC to add creativity and a goal scoring threat, so when Josue was transfer listed by Porto I jumped straight in and loaned him in for the rest of the season. I inserted a clause where I can buy him for £3.3m at the end of the season if I am impressed by his performances heading into the summer. Quagliarella was the other loanee to join the club, to add competition to Dybala and Clayton for the F9 position.

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We started the month in positive fashion, knocking Oldham out of the FA Cup with ease as Ryan Gauld scored a brace. The first leg of the Huddersfield tie was much tougher than expected and it was only through an O.G and a Distin header from a corner that we took a lead into the 2nd leg. We rolled Cardiff over in convincing fashion as Mirallas scored 2 in a very impressive performance. Next up were 2 games I was determined to win against teams near us in the table but unfortunately we only took a measly 2 points. Poor finishing and some awful defending from set pieces meant we continued to maintain our position of 8th in the league. Our great form in the cups continued as we knocked out Huddersfield with another 2-1 win, Barkley and Mirallas sending us into the final where we face Liverpool. The FA Cup 4th round is hopefully a foreshadowing of what will come in the League Cup as we dominated Liverpool from start to finish and progressed into the next round of the FA Cup where we will face Premiership Reading. Lastly, we finished the month with being completely outclassed at the Emirates (a match to forget) and dominating bottom-of-the-table West Ham.

This set of results sees the Premier League look like this:

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I am extremely happy with our defensive record as we tie the least goals conceded in the league with Mourinho's Chelsea. Distin and Jagielka have been superb whilst Stones, Duffy and Souttar have been impressive when called upon. The problem lies in attack as we cannot score enough goals to kill a game off. Very rarely this season have we won a game by more than 2 goals (the West Ham game was a rarity, and one that I very much enjoyed).

A screenshot of how I am lining up is below - I am open to suggestions as to how I can get my team scoring more goals.

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The tactic has gone through 3 different variations since the start of the season but I have finally settled on this shape as something I am happy with. I have found a balance for my two deep midfielders, as the DM sits deep, recycles possession and covers the more advanced midfielders and the DLP is just slightly more advanced and links the defence and attack, often switching the play to one of the full backs who push up and provide width. I am tempted to switch Barkley to an Advanced playmaker, however I feel with a DLP and a F9 I already have enough 'playmakers' in the side, so I have opted for what should be 3 goalscoring roles to push ahead of the striker and provide a presence in the box.

I can't help but feel a lot of my goalscoring problems comes from the fact that I simply don't have the quality goalscorers in my side. Dybala, Rescaldani and Mirallas only have 14 for finishing but they're the ones who have the highest attribute rating for it! That being said, I love the movement of the F9 and the striker does get ample chances so I am confident that when I have a world class striker in that role then I will start winning games by bigger margins.

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how are you playing Rescaldani? i struggled with him at first, but i've got him as a Target man on support with hold position and move to the flanks and he's started banging them in.

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how are you playing Rescaldani? i struggled with him at first, but i've got him as a Target man on support with hold position and move to the flanks and he's started banging them in.

I play him as a Target Man on support when he does play. Been very poor this season though which is why I've loaned in Quagliarella to compete for the F9 position with Dybala. He will get opportunities this season though as Dybala is also on loan so come next season I'll no centre forwards at the club that I have confidence in. There's nobody coming through the youth system either that is ready so it's definitely an area that I'll have to look at. Bojan is available on a pre-contract and could play the F9 position but he wants roughly £60k a week which I deem too much for someone of his ability.

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Just won the Champions league in season 2 with Everton despite finishing 7th in the league!

Bought Gaitan in season one who has been a revelation with goals and assists, a must buy IMO! Eduardo Vargas filled the gap left by Lukaku with Eto'o providing good support.

Valdes has been poor in goal although my expectations of him were very high. Will post pictures of transfers in/out when back from work. Debating whether to bring back a 30 year old Rooney?

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Just won the Champions league in season 2 with Everton despite finishing 7th in the league!

Bought Gaitan in season one who has been a revelation with goals and assists, a must buy IMO! Eduardo Vargas filled the gap left by Lukaku with Eto'o providing good support.

Valdes has been poor in goal although my expectations of him were very high. Will post pictures of transfers in/out when back from work. Debating whether to bring back a 30 year old Rooney?

I'm having exactly the same debate in my game... Can't decide whether to or not.

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Only eight league games into season in 1st place 3 points ahead of Man utd. Playing 4-2-3-1 with short passing possession football,beat man city away 2-1 also beat chelsea.

first transfer window disabled.

Any advice on who to buy in january?

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Only eight league games into season in 1st place 3 points ahead of Man utd. Playing 4-2-3-1 with short passing possession football,beat man city away 2-1 also beat chelsea.

first transfer window disabled.

Any advice on who to buy in january?

I'd try to look for striker, I found Lukaku to be inconsistent and Jelavic not up for it so goals at one stage were hard to come buy, not sure how much you have to spend but thats the area I'd strengthen in terms of names I'm not so sure depends on your budget.

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Just been given 7.3m in november 1st season. was looking at Danny Ings and Tom Ince. May sell Heitinga to reduce wage down 55k.

Played Tottenham at home had 64% possession 18 shots on goal to there 4 and lost the game 1-0. Grrrrr

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Can get him for 22m and 125k wages but he's already started a big decline so think I'll leave it!
I got hold of him for £15m, and it was definitely a good decision. 4 goals in first two games (2 vs Reading and 2 vs Milan) plus a couple of assists.

Playing him as a false 9, with Barkley as SS behind him

EDIT: He then scored the winner in the next game away to Arsenal. Returned a poor clearance from Ospina on the full volley from about 30yds, lashing it into the top corner

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Just been given 7.3m in november 1st season. was looking at Danny Ings and Tom Ince. May sell Heitinga to reduce wage down 55k.

Played Tottenham at home had 64% possession 18 shots on goal to there 4 and lost the game 1-0. Grrrrr

Ince will be a decent signing, not sure about Ings seems to score for fun in the championship its whether he can step up

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So my 2nd season in charge has come and gone and it was fairly successful. We won the Community Shield against Chelsea 1-0 which is my first (and, so far, only) trophy on this save. In the Champions League were overwhelmed and our small squad could not cope with all the added fixtures so we crashed out in 3rd placed in the group and subsequently played Stuttgart in the first knock-out round of the Europa League, but again we could not compete and lost 2-1 on aggregate. In the domestic cups we did very well, getting to the final of the Capital One Cup where we were unfortunate to lose to Liverpool on penalties after drawing 0-0 after extra time. We had the chances but we just couldn't score, which was the story of our season really. In the FA Cup we made it to the QF's but against Manchester City we just could not take our chances and they dumped us out of the competition. Our lengthy participation in the cups and the extra fixtures they bring had a negative impact on our Premier League form as well, and it was not until the final 10 games of the season, after we had largely been knocked out of the cups, that we mounted our assault on cementing a European spot for season 3. We did achieve this goal, which was my minimum aim for the season, by finishing 7th in the league. The only upside to the PL season was that Sczezseny won the Golden Glove.

So an unspectacular second season overall but a solid one given the lack of quality in my squad. Having 6 loanees in my side by the end of the season is a big indicator as to how poor my actual squad was, so I needed a big summer transfer window to turn things around.

With all of our problems scoring goals last season I needed to bring in some firepower up front. However perhaps it was more than just the players that led to us not scoring enough goals - perhaps it was my formation and tactics? With that in mind, I went about addressing the formation and ditched all 3 of my current tactics as they all operated with a lone striker. Instead, I have decided to approach this season with variations of the 4-4-2 formation which will hopefully see us score a lot more, even if it is at the expense of conceding a few more.

So, here's a SS of my transfers:

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I tried to ship out as much of the deadwood as I could, but I still have Howard and Pienaar at the club as I could not find someone to take them off my hands. They'll be leaving in the summer and I'll be thankful to have the extra £80k or so a week to spend! I wouldn't classify Rescaldani as 'deadwood' but he was very, very poor for me and after two seasons of persevering I decided enough was enough and he was off for a tidy profit (originally bought for £350k).

As for incoming transfers, I needed to bulk up my striking options as Guidetti was the only one left at the club. Rodrigo and Bony will be my main goalscorers, whilst Quagliarella and Jovetic (who are not in the SS because I've got them in on loan) will be my creative strikers. Quagliarella is here only for 6 months because I'm trialling Rodrigo in the F9 position for a bit, and Quag is there to provide back-up as I know he is good in that role (was on loan with us last year). Hughes and Josue will provide back-up for the MC and AMC positons respectively, both at good prices. I am hoping that Hughes will develop into a world class playmaker. Boilesen is purely back-up for Baines, who is more defensive than Oviedo. Alabi is a regen AMC who is a 4* rated English player, hopefully he can cut it in the PL one day but he has spent most of his time at the club on the physio table so far.

And here is how I'll be lining up:

FIRST TEAM

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SECOND STRING

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So a bit of an uncoventional formation but my thought was process was this:

* I wanted to play with two strikers, and I've had success with an F9 and CF before.

* I wanted to play with an AMC to accommodate Barkley in his favoured position.

* I wanted an AMR to play Mirallas in his favoured position and give Gauld a position to play (developing very nicely for me).

* I wanted to give Baines a lot more freedom to join the attack and be a creative threat for my team.

Tactical decisions still to be made:

* I am unsure as to whether I should be playing WB's or FB's but for now the FB's are offering good attacking threat and also keeping it tight at the back.

* I need my DMC to hold his position and cover for the LB when he gets forward, but also to recycle possession from deep and give it to my more creative players. I have him as a DM for now, but I am debating switching him to an Anchor Man so that he has very little creative freedom and just plays it simple. My worry with that move however is that it will leave the MCR too isolated...

* The role of the AMC is the last thing on my mind. He is currently set to an Advanced Playmaker with 'roam from position' as an instruction, but I am debating switching him to an Attacking Midfielder, or even a Shadow Striker to offer work rate up top and also a goalscoring threat.

If you've read this far then thank you. I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts about the tactic I'm going with this season, especially ways to improve it or thoughts on the possible weak areas I've raised above.

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Was bought over at the end of 2016 and the consortium wiped out all of my debts and a stadium was announced to be constructed in 2019. Will do a proper update eventually but have exams I really should be studying for :D

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