llama3 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Nice intro ilamae, FS would have been proud, i know i am cheers man, fired up a save yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal71 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, Ive been testing so have started a few and soaked a few seasons as the game has progressed. Data in the whole is good and we can wint the league although some teams perform better than their real life counterparts. Im just started a new season with a build and beat the Y*** 4-1 opening day of season and PAOK 3-0 first leg of EC qualifiers. Using 4231/433. Setting up all the positional player positions with their individual instructions takes time but worth it as when you bring them on as a sub they already know what to do. A few things i would touch up that wasnt done Rosicky needs this physicals tweaking as these were back to when I reduced him when he had his injuries, id probaly increase his Acc and pace to 15/13 respectively. Ramsey's the same with an increase in his flair. Also a few youngsters could do with an increase in certain areas as ive seen them and some of the data is a little low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, Ive been testing so have started a few and soaked a few seasons as the game has progressed. Data in the whole is good and we can wint the league although some teams perform better than their real life counterparts.Im just started a new season with a build and beat the Y*** 4-1 opening day of season and PAOK 3-0 first leg of EC qualifiers. Using 4231/433. Setting up all the positional player positions with their individual instructions takes time but worth it as when you bring them on as a sub they already know what to do. A few things i would touch up that wasnt done Rosicky needs this physicals tweaking as these were back to when I reduced him when he had his injuries, id probaly increase his Acc and pace to 15/13 respectively. Ramsey's the same with an increase in his flair. Also a few youngsters could do with an increase in certain areas as ive seen them and some of the data is a little low. I am using 4-2-3-1, have a few variations in instructions, but not many. Have a good base system that works very well. Results: H - Man Utd - 4-0 H - PAOK - 1-0 (UCL) A - Swansea - 2-1 A - PAOK - 5-1 (UCL - 6-1 on aggregate) A - Sunderland 2-1 playing well so far. Wonderful cohesion & movement. Lots of depth in the squad, sharing the goals around - its a dream start really. Capital One Cup - Everton v Arsenal - Round 3 Champions League - Group C - Atletico Madrid, Ajax & Napoli. Yeah stuck a few into the data thread over some stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Oh and Arsenal71 - what happened to Father Senegal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 why has giroud been released after a really good first year? looking forward to starting a new game and checking out the new tactics shizzle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Released? You mean reduced? Something to do with the large proportion of CCC's he failed to covert perhaps...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Guys I have been seeing some really strange tactical stuff so far, so thought I would try and be helpful and remind of a few points - i will then update the player profiles above to include information on their roles and duties to help your decision making. The first tactical points to remind you of are from wwfan's 12 step guide - so suggest paying them their dues: "Focus on roles and duties in the TC. Make sure you have one Attack duty in defence, one Attack and one Defend in midfield, and one Support in attack (especially if you have a lone FC). Make sure you have at least one no-nonsense, hard-working midfielder role. If you want to use a PM, will he be in the best position to hurt players, or will your approach see him isolated." "Look at the team comparison page to determine how strong / weak your team is to the divisional average. Use the tactical adjustments to take advantage of / cover for this (e.g. if you have a very slow or lazy team, stand off more, whereas if they are quick and hard-working, press more)" "Use the shouts to develop and save a favoured playing style, which should also suit your team strengths / weaknesses. For example, a highly technical team can sit deep and counter at pace, so using retain possession, pass into space, run at defence with a counter strategy may be worthwhile. A less technical but more physical team might want to impose themselves in a different way, so consider using get ball forwards, hit early crosses, get stuck in with an attack strategy." Before each match, look at the weather conditions and the opposing team's formation to determine your match strategy. It can be very difficult to counter attack on a heavy, chewed up pitch, so you might have to abandon your preferred style and play an uglier game. You might want to expose an opponents lone wide player formation and exploit the flanks or look for overlap. You might be happy with your starting system. Now for some of my own Make your team multi-focal, by this, stop having a single route to goal (i.e. a quick Walcott, or lumping crosses to Giroud), have lots. Consider where your runners come from, had a message from someone a few days ago about his system, and he had no players trying to break in behind the defensive line. Elementary problem. If you are not sure on your roles and duties, stick with BASIC ones until you know better. A well structured team of full backs and wingers, deep-lying forwards and central midfielders is a better start than a team full of specialist roles, doing a bad job. Be careful just how many individual instructions you give a player - consider if you wanted the role you've give in the first place if you've made so many changes to your role/style. Build your team from the BACK, it will naturally lend you a structure to build your team's attacking strata and guide your decision making. At least have the duties picked first, and then go about the roles afterwards, as the duties will determine a lot of your team structure and shape. Stop thinking in slider terms too, it will not help, play what you see in front of you, learn to pause the game at moments (just for 5 seconds is enough) and watch what is happening (i.e. "oh christ, why is my holding midfielder that high up the pitch! Rooney is in tons of space!" - it helps so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taunton Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just chipping in a tad bit late to say that this is a brilliant OP. Great work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN#17 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 So this just happend, Giroud is beasting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rmat Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just started with Arsenal to get a feel for the game. Main formation will be a narrow 4-2-3-1. Ozil as enganche in the hole, and the other two AM berths will be depending on personnel. I really like the way player specific instructions can be saved. , L Have so far signed Kurt Zouma (was supposed to be Mangala but he got broke his foot after agreeing a contract), Vela, Luciano Vietto, and Youri Tielemans. Trying to fund some funds to buy Luke Shaw now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 How are you guys dealing with the new financial demands of the transfer system? I notice now that we have to pay money for being an unused sub, plus the extra costs of appearance fees. Are you finding it really drains your wages budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aron Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 How are you guys dealing with the new financial demands of the transfer system?I notice now that we have to pay money for being an unused sub, plus the extra costs of appearance fees. Are you finding it really drains your wages budget? I manually remove the unused sub clauses and haggle on the appearance fees, generally that works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I manually remove the unused sub clauses and haggle on the appearance fees, generally that works. Cheers Aron, I've got a save going but have been concentrating on sorting my tactics out, now I need a CD as Vermaelen is out injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aron Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Cheers Aron, I've got a save going but have been concentrating on sorting my tactics out, now I need a CD as Vermaelen is out injured. Ah, in case you haven't seen him yet, Balanta for ca £6m is a steal or the cheaper Boyata for £800k if you're out of cash. I got both and they've been doing pretty well together so far. There's also this Doria fellow in Botafogo but they tried to rob me for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Cheers for that, will take a look. I used to go for Dede who used to play for Vasco or Kurt Zouma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEinchy Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Nice thread, llama3. I'll get an Arsenal save going once I'm finished playing around with Sevilla. There's a lot of decisions to be made tactically this year with the Arsenal squad, so I'm really looking forward to playing as them this year. If you guys are looking at centre backs, it might interest you to know that Federico Fazio has an £8.5mil release clause. Might not be as good as he was in previous games, but he's still a good pick-up at that price, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal71 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I am using 4-2-3-1, have a few variations in instructions, but not many. Have a good base system that works very well. Results: H - Man Utd - 4-0 H - PAOK - 1-0 (UCL) A - Swansea - 2-1 A - PAOK - 5-1 (UCL - 6-1 on aggregate) A - Sunderland 2-1 playing well so far. Wonderful cohesion & movement. Lots of depth in the squad, sharing the goals around - its a dream start really. Capital One Cup - Everton v Arsenal - Round 3 Champions League - Group C - Atletico Madrid, Ajax & Napoli. Yeah stuck a few into the data thread over some stuff. Good start there, keep it up. If its in the data thread it might get changed as they are looking at glaring issues. Re FS, we all grow up eventually and life gets in the way and time playing and posting reduces. I know ive dropped off considerably from a few years ago once you have kits etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rmat Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Anyone have any tips for setting up an effective counter-attacking tactic with Arsenal? The new tactical instructions have thrown me a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Anyone else like the look of Jordy Clasie on this game?! Looks great to take over from Arteta as a DLP! The only thing he is really lacking is a bit of technique and perhaps his tackling could do with a bit of beefing up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCArsenal Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hey, i need Zelalem and Crowley Unique IDs in the game. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmluke12 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What player role does everyone give giroud? i always chop and change cant seem to find a consistent one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 1 point away from winning the league with 3-4 games left. Just been on a bad run in all comps, won 4 out of 10. Was absolutely running away with the league until the knockout rounds started. Beat Barca but lost on away goals to Dortmund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 1 point away from winning the league with 3-4 games left.Just been on a bad run in all comps, won 4 out of 10. Was absolutely running away with the league until the knockout rounds started. Beat Barca but lost on away goals to Dortmund. did lewandowski score the winner despite the fact he should been off for an elbow to the face? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 did lewandowski score the winner despite the fact he should been off for an elbow to the face? Haha not quite, he did score 2 quick goals in the first game that meant it was all uphill for me though! Me getting knocked out on here and Arsenal losing tonight literally happened within 10 mins of each other! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 2013/2014 End of Season Review Brilliant season for me! Added to by the fact I am a Charlton supporter (see those relegated! ) Think I won about 6 of 17 competitive matches at the end of the season in the end should have won the league a long time ago. Ended up winning it at the Emirates with a point against Spurs! Player Highlights - League Stats Giroud 31 Apps/17 Goals/6 Assists/7.42 Ozil 32(4) Apps/15 Goals/13 Assists/7.56 Behrami 27 Apps/13.49 Tackles/86 Pass%/7.97 Transfers As you can see, some big changes. Had to snap up Ter Stegen for the price. Great value. Moreno is ideal as a ball playing defender. Clasie and Nainggolan add talent to an ageing area of midfield, allowing me to move on Ramsey and Flamini in the process, who had no future at the club. Managed to get 35m for Vela and Giroud. Giroud had a great season but at times really underperformed while Vela was just poor throughout. Gambled on Guiseppe Rossi with high (100k) wage demands and future prospect Timo Werner. One problem I have at the club is Sagna has left on a free as I wouldnt cave into his wage demands. I now have no recognized right backs, would appreciate any good/good for value player suggestions! Looking for someone solid who is comfortable in possession and can whip in a good cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark. Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Good first season there mate. Bit surprised at some of your current season clear out (Rambo !!) But otherwise some good buys. For right back, how is Corchia looking in this version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozil Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I wouldn't have let Ramsey or CJ go, but for RB, check out Corchia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 css_matt - i want to cry at your sales and purchases. It is the football manager equivalent of a massacre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepydude Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 One problem I have at the club is Sagna has left on a free as I wouldnt cave into his wage demands. I now have no recognized right backs, would appreciate any good/good for value player suggestions! Looking for someone solid who is comfortable in possession and can whip in a good cross. I can recommend de Sciglio and Martin Montoya as good right backs, they've been doing well on my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 2013/2014 End of Season ReviewBrilliant season for me! Added to by the fact I am a Charlton supporter (see those relegated! ) Think I won about 6 of 17 competitive matches at the end of the season in the end should have won the league a long time ago. Ended up winning it at the Emirates with a point against Spurs! Player Highlights - League Stats Giroud 31 Apps/17 Goals/6 Assists/7.42 Ozil 32(4) Apps/15 Goals/13 Assists/7.56 Behrami 27 Apps/13.49 Tackles/86 Pass%/7.97 Cavanda may be available on a a free Transfers As you can see, some big changes. Had to snap up Ter Stegen for the price. Great value. Moreno is ideal as a ball playing defender. Clasie and Nainggolan add talent to an ageing area of midfield, allowing me to move on Ramsey and Flamini in the process, who had no future at the club. Managed to get 35m for Vela and Giroud. Giroud had a great season but at times really underperformed while Vela was just poor throughout. Gambled on Guiseppe Rossi with high (100k) wage demands and future prospect Timo Werner. One problem I have at the club is Sagna has left on a free as I wouldnt cave into his wage demands. I now have no recognized right backs, would appreciate any good/good for value player suggestions! Looking for someone solid who is comfortable in po ssession and can whip in a good cross. Cavanda may be available on a free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Just started an Arsenal one to mess around with before the full game comes out. Usually I turn off transfer budgets for the first window but as this will only be short term I've decided to spend. Out goes Jenkinson on loan, Fabianski for £2.5m and potentially Podolski. In comes Coleman for £9m, Michu for £18m and Vela for £3.4m. Playing around with the tactics. LOVE that you can now get Theo to stay high up the pitch and that you can get Santi to tuck in. Means I can now get Gibbs to overlap Santi and for Sagna to join Walcott to link the play. Not sure what to do with Giroud, atm I have him as a target man who runs into channels. I have Ozil running wide with the ball and roaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Looking at signing Marc Andre ter stegen from Gladbach but thay wanted 44m!!!! I think this was because I bidded on final day of transfer window and the club would not have time to replace him. Season 2 I may look to offload Podolski as I dont see him as key player for me and his wages don't justify him just sitting on the bench when I have better players on much lower wages. Just not sure how easy it will be to sell him with his wage demands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 First game sees me win 3-0 at Fulham thanks to goals from Giroud, Walcott and Vela. Didn't keep hold of the ball well but we looked dangerous on the counter and solid defensively. Promising signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 How have you set up? That kind of information will be very useful to everyone here so everyone can learn from each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Followed that with a 3-0 win at PAOK, goals from Giroud, Michu and Vela. Different type of game from the Fulham one, we absolutely dominated it. Nacho with 2 MotM performances already. There's a new update out btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rGade Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 One problem I have at the club is Sagna has left on a free as I wouldnt cave into his wage demands. I now have no recognized right backs, would appreciate any good/good for value player suggestions! Looking for someone solid who is comfortable in possession and can whip in a good cross. De Sciglio seems a great prospect on FM14. In FM13 he was amazing for me at Porto and was sold on to Chelsea for around £30M. Another could be Corchia or Gino Peruzzi. Peruzzi has a 4.5 or 5* PA, don't remember exactly, but he is performing quite well in my save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 There's a new update out btw. an update for the beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 indeed, good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 That's my tactic. Only issue I've got atm is Ozil, he's not firing and he's giving away the ball too much. Only other change I'm probably going to make is changing my RB to support so he can get involved in the play more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aron Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 That's my tactic. Only issue I've got atm is Ozil, he's not firing and he's giving away the ball too much. Only other change I'm probably going to make is changing my RB to support so he can get involved in the play more. I don't know if you've read wwfan's updated guide to FM14 - here - he recommends having few specific roles if you are going for a fluid style - in your case he'd recommend a Very Rigid style as you've already given so many players instructions you want them to follow. Although apparently you are getting results so this is only a tip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis999 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I just re-negotiated with Sagna on a rotation contract on 60k a week which is brilliant until I find a younger option for the future. It was the first thing I did so that's probably why he didn't ask for extortionate amounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis999 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does anyone know why Liam Brady is leaving when his contract ends from the start of the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 One thing I do hope is that when the full game comes out we wont be getting 'Laurel & Hardy' coming on every time a player gets injured and I hope it won't take forever to take corners either. AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!! Also why does every goalkeeper suddenly become the worlds No1 when they play against me, saving shots from 6 yds out. I can have 20 shots on goal and say score 3 they have 3 shots on goal and score every one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does anyone know why Liam Brady is leaving when his contract ends from the start of the game? He's leaving at the end of the season irl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Just beat PSV 6-2 on agg in ECL play-off (a 2-1 & h 4-1) and with the draw I got I wish I hadn't.... PSG - France Juventus - Italy Molde - Norway Its a tough group but I know my lads will come through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Tough draw, not as bad as real life though. You could probably beat both at home easy enough, just snatch stuff away and do not miss the opportunity to batter Molde. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Just gotta keep Ibrahimovic quiet....now where did I put me cheque book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Updated opening page. New images and stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossoneriGunner Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Like the updates llama, top class as usual. Cap 1 Cup, Chelsea (a). No-one likes us, no-one likes us, no-one likes us, we don't care........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongii Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Whats the way to get the best out of Ozil? He just cruises along in my save so far - average of about 7.1/7.2 each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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