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Unbelievable. Because of people like you we will have even more goals soon! SI please dont listen to this, there are already way too many goals!

Don't worry, we take very detailed stats from every single league in-game to try and get a decent balance.

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I'm afraid to say SI but I think my FM "career" will end in this version. I think he removal of sliders is a major mistake. Yes it wasn't realistic, I admit, but it was what made every FM manager "different". It's what separated the meticulous Mourinho's to the motivational Redknapp's. For me the enjoyment was first creating a tactic, a philosophy if you will, and then focus on breeding youth through. Now I feel half of the enjoyment has gone.

I would like to thank you guys though for the years of enjoyment I've had with the game. We're talking since CM2 :D So it's been a good run, it has indeed.

Good luck in future, I'm sure the new version will attract new players and I hope they enjoy it as much as I have throughout the years. :)

Good luck to you as well, we'll miss you around the boards.

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Can you make the Projection tab in Finances more detailed, like the Income and Expenditure tabs? I play with Villa and the projection for this season's turnover is 121M, the projection for next season is 185M and for the season after 121M. I want to know where do these 64M come from.

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Finished my first season. The game in general is great and, for a beta, surprisingly bug-less.

What bothers me most is the average rating of any defensive player. Here are the Serie A AvR stats as well as those of my team.

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Serie A - best 13 players are all defensive, then there is Klose and again eight more defensive players (striker Bianchi being the 22nd on the list). Top goalscorer Tevez (36/26, 7.53) is 28th whilst Parma's central defender Paletta has 7.67 and is sitting 12th. Parma finished the season on 17th place, one point safe from relegation. Their other DC was rated 7.44... And they were the third worst team by number of goals conceded.

I feel this is highly unrealistic... Does anyone else shares my opinion?

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SI please dont listen to this, there are already way too many goals!
Haven't seen any conclusive evidence for this, apart from a portuguese lower league table screenie.

My game must be different from yours, because aside from the occasional goal-resulting bug still in the game, the amount of goals in my matches is pretty solid.

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How are contract negotiations in FM14? Is it still harder to get top players from big players? Do prices still fluctuate?

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I feel this is highly unrealistic... Does anyone else shares my opinion?

I've got the same opinion. In my Premier League save the situation is similar. From the first 30 players, 23 are defenders (DR,DC,DL).

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Is it still harder to get top players from big players?

That sounds very hard indeed. :)

Sorry could not help myself.

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Finished my first season. The game in general is great and, for a beta, surprisingly bug-less.

What bothers me most is the average rating of any defensive player. Here are the Serie A AvR stats as well as those of my team.

bguxaxTl.jpg e22xoBSl.jpg

(click on both to enlarge them)

Serie A - best 13 players are all defensive, then there is Klose and again eight more defensive players (striker Bianchi being the 22nd on the list). Top goalscorer Tevez (36/26, 7.53) is 28th whilst Parma's central defender Paletta has 7.67 and is sitting 12th. Parma finished the season on 17th place, one point safe from relegation. Their other DC was rated 7.44... And they were the third worst team by number of goals conceded.

I feel this is highly unrealistic... Does anyone else shares my opinion?

Same in my game , in fact with no additional instructions other than being set as central defended D I had Dawson , Kaboul and Vertoghen finish with 8.01 , 8.16 and 8.5 respectively.

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I like the incremental changes. Still building my team for the first regular season game.

I do have a transfer that I confirmed over a week ago that remains in my Transfer Center and not on my team. Are you seeing that too?

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Same in my game , in fact with no additional instructions other than being set as central defended D I had Dawson , Kaboul and Vertoghen finish with 8.01 , 8.16 and 8.5 respectively.

Would love to know the number of tackles/interceptions they make a game and their success rate

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Haven't seen any conclusive evidence for this, apart from a portuguese lower league table screenie.

My game must be different from yours, because aside from the occasional goal-resulting bug still in the game, the amount of goals in my matches is pretty solid.

I think the problem there is alot of high scoring games then alot of 0-0 and 1-0. There is a lot more shots on goal

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That sounds very hard indeed. :)

Sorry could not help myself.

LOL I meant can you still buy top players from bigger clubs at a price which is ridiculous?

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Is there too many goals beings cored as I have seen conflicting reports

In my games, I have played 53 games with Hearts and there has been 186 goals

this was the last set of league results

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That was 24 goals in 5 games

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I think it is safe to say that SI are looking at this, in my humble opinion the last thing this game needs is more goals.

I think the real life average is something like 2.1 goals per game, or around that, at the moment I am averaging around 4.2, or there abouts, I uploaded a save for something else but I am sure the SI guys will look at that also.

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Is the dark skin available on FM14?

Not yet, it 'should' be added for release.

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Just finished my first season with Brentford. Finished 2nd. Loving the beta. Love the changes to contract talks. Like the changes with no tactic sliders.

One issue. I was only given 10k for finishing 2nd surely wrong??

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No doubt they need to tone down the amount of goals scored.

Ive put my save on hold and gone back to FM 13 until a patch comes out.

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Sliders come back! ..

Individual schedules come back!..

Lan (offline ) come back!..

..every year something (good) is out but same (s***t) issues remain :

-Corners Bug (my team scored 16 corners in fm 2014)

- Gk movement (

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- Crash Dumps..:thdn:

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my friend doesn't have an account & has been sacked twice for no reason apparently ..firstly he was Solihull & was second in the league then he got sacked after 3 games with Burton 1 win,draw & loss. Is this a bug? he's not uninstalled the game to see if that's the problem

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Would love to know the number of tackles/interceptions they make a game and their success rate

Where do I see interceptions made/attempted ?

Dawnson Kaboul and Walker all have tackle completion over 85% and an average of 8.31 , 9.35 and 11.5 TPG

Their avr is maybe a little higher because CD's score a lot of goals again (default set piece settings etc)

Edit : 17 out of the top 20 avr in the EPL are defenders :)

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my friend doesn't have an account & has been sacked twice for no reason apparently ..firstly he was Solihull & was second in the league then he got sacked after 3 games with Burton 1 win,draw & loss. Is this a bug? he's not uninstalled the game to see if that's the problem

Is he continually making crazy demands from the board?

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At the beginig of may game (I'm playing Arsenal), Teams don't want to buy players when you sell who went to club at the begining of season (for example Ozil from Arsenal ). I think it's connected with rules. They want to loan them only. But you can do it (from diffrent teams for exapmple Fellaini from MU) and you can use it. It's very starnge and big error in my opinion !!!

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Is he continually making crazy demands from the board?

Nope.. He only speaks in the beginning then gets the chop lol. I'm finding this amusing and he's getting angry

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Thanks for the answer Neil but I personally think it's really time to go with the dark as the standard ,Especially when you have people who play this game all year for a huge amount of time and really those long time career players should be SI & Sega's main priority.

I worry that the time spent on FMC really is becoming a detriment to the longer term players

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Nope.. He only speaks in the beginning then gets the chop lol. I'm finding this amusing and he's getting angry

You would be best to bring this up in the bugs forum then, i am also playing lower league with Altrincham and never had this problem.

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There seems to be way too many long term injuries. Aug 31st first season 4 players out ranging from 4 weeks to 5 months!

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There seems to be way too many long term injuries. Aug 31st first season 4 players out ranging from 4 weeks to 5 months!

No offence but that does not seem bad at all, I also lost 3 players right at the start of the first season, I even lost my best player, my striker, which was the reason I took control of the team to start with, I lost him for 4 months, the others I lost for 2months and 4 weeks.

These things happen, I had a squad of around 22 players and had 3 or 4 injured before the first game, that seems about right, to be honest it could have been a bit worse and still fit in with real life.

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Thanks for the answer Neil but I personally think it's really time to go with the dark as the standard ,Especially when you have people who play this game all year for a huge amount of time and really those long time career players should be SI & Sega's main priority.

I worry that the time spent on FMC really is becoming a detriment to the longer term players

You shouldn't worry as they have different teams for different modules.

also just because people play FMC, doesn't mean they don't end up putting in many many hours in the end.

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Apart from 2 things, I am loving this game. One is a minor gripe but one I am missing until the full game launches.

1. No windowed mode. Missing it.

2. A load of injuries in my team. 5 first team players are now out of contention for a minimum of 5 weeks.

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Where do I see interceptions made/attempted ?

Dawnson Kaboul and Walker all have tackle completion over 85% and an average of 8.31 , 9.35 and 11.5 TPG

Their avr is maybe a little higher because CD's score a lot of goals again (default set piece settings etc)

Edit : 17 out of the top 20 avr in the EPL are defenders :)

I'm guessing its the goals scored and the number of completed tackles that is giving them such high average ratings. Have a look at the tackle rate for the other defenders, see if it is similar.

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Thanks for the answer Neil but I personally think it's really time to go with the dark as the standard ,Especially when you have people who play this game all year for a huge amount of time and really those long time career players should be SI & Sega's main priority.

I worry that the time spent on FMC really is becoming a detriment to the longer term players

I'm a long time career player and I don't like the dark skin at all. :)

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Apart from 2 things, I am loving this game. One is a minor gripe but one I am missing until the full game launches.

1. No windowed mode. Missing it.

2. A load of injuries in my team. 5 first team players are now out of contention for a minimum of 5 weeks.

1. depends only on the screen resolution of your computer

2. Just coincidence or bad luck.

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I'm a long time career player and I don't like the dark skin at all. :)

That's all good but you're in the minority, But on the plus sight you must have tough eyes!

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At the beginig of may game (I'm playing Arsenal), Teams don't want to buy players when you sell who went to club at the begining of season (for example Ozil from Arsenal ). I think it's connected with rules. They want to loan them only. But you can do it (from diffrent teams for exapmple Fellaini from MU) and you can use it. It's very starnge and big error in my opinion !!! have you the same situations????

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That's all good but you're in the minority, But on the plus sight you must have tough eyes!

Where are the stats that says I'm in the minority? In this thread about a dozen people are demanding the dark skin. Not that many compared to the thousands already playing this beta...

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Where are the stats that says I'm in the minority? In this thread about a dozen people are demanding the dark skin. Not that many compared to the thousands already playing this beta...

Mainly polls I've seen done on this site, I'm not saying your wrong for playing with the white skin btw!

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Mainly polls I've seen done on this site, I'm not saying your wrong for playing with the white skin btw!

It's just a subjective feeling that a dark background is better for the eyes, but it's wrong. Otherwise all books would be printed white on dark. :)

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I really, really, really don't like the white skin and have always gone for dark as poss. If that counts for anything....which it won't. :D

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I think it is safe to say that SI are looking at this, in my humble opinion the last thing this game needs is more goals.

I think the real life average is something like 2.1 goals per game, or around that, at the moment I am averaging around 4.2, or there abouts, I uploaded a save for something else but I am sure the SI guys will look at that also.

So your games average 4.2 goals. Interesting question is, what do the other teams average?

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Got a 1366 x 768 resolution, but the Windowed option is greyed out.

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Go to settings and apply the zoom-in option, then windowed mode becomes available. Although i just realised, if i then tick "show recent attribute changes", some numbers can't be displayed anymore....

edit: It's rather zoom-out...

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At the beginig of may game (I'm playing Arsenal), Teams don't want to buy players when you sell who went to club at the begining of season (for example Ozil from Arsenal ). I think it's connected with rules. They want to loan them only. But you can do it (from diffrent teams for exapmple Fellaini from MU) and you can use it. It's very starnge and big error in my opinion !!! have you the same situations????

I haven't experienced anything like this myself yet but, if I may ask, why were you trying to sell Ozil??

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I'm a long time career player and I don't like the dark skin at all. :)

Second this +1

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