ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Just wondering bc I would like to pursue a long term FM save, one in which AI squad building and regen attribute distribution is at its finest. Was it at any point better in previous FM's? I'm struggling to live in a FM13 2025 world where 9/10 players has the team ethic of Arjen Robben and everyone has forgotten how to jump in and win a ball. Could have sworn FM10 had better regens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyPenguin Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Yep FM10 was the king of long term saves, at least for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestroik Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Yupz, either FM 10 or FM 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 FM12 for me, but indeed FM10 worked well too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Just loaded up FM12 and found a save from 2021, can't remember it but the regen balance is great. Players with teamwork and high work rates \o/ Defenders who can tackle \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 CM03/04I know it's not technically an FM but it is from before the split from Eidos and gave me more long term fun than any of the FM franchise. This and 01/02. Since FM then FM10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 fm10 had the problem that pretty much every team would play 4-4-2 after a certain amount of time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 What features am I missing out on from FM13 w/ FM12? Is it just the DoF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbiemanager Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I don't know what you fellas are smoking but the last three or four FMs before 13 were absolutely terrible for long-term games. Don't you remember the stupid stat distribution for newgens? The world-class 5' 6" DCs? The hordes of MCs with ridiculous pace and acceleration but no wingers to match them? The strikers who would be decent in all areas except - wait for it - ridiculously low finishing? Honestly, for me, newgens were a game-breaker until FM13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Newgens are dreadful this year, the attribute distribution is so unrealistic. Think you're the one who was playing a different game after looking at the regens from FM12 I'll probably just try and stick tot his until an FM comes back with excellent AI squad building and regens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbiemanager Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 To be honest (and I had forgotten this ^^) FM12 was the first one I didn't buy because I asked on these forums whether the issues mentioned above were still present and was told by several people that they were, although they weren't as pronounced. I also remember some people complaining that newgens were far too good compared to previous versions. I'm curious to know what problems you have with FM13 players? The only common flaw I see is low bravery for defensive players. Everything else I have found pretty balanced - and I'm currently playing a game in 2030. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Newgens are dreadful this year, the attribute distribution is so unrealistic. That's the part that kills me. Centre backs with crossing as a strength, plodding full backs, and so many players with stamina below 10. I wish there was a better positional template used when creating new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 To be honest (and I had forgotten this ^^) FM12 was the first one I didn't buy because I asked on these forums whether the issues mentioned above were still present and was told by several people that they were, although they weren't as pronounced. I also remember some people complaining that newgens were far too good compared to previous versions.I'm curious to know what problems you have with FM13 players? The only common flaw I see is low bravery for defensive players. Everything else I have found pretty balanced - and I'm currently playing a game in 2030. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/342744-30-Years-of-Full-Detail-Analysis-of-Long-Term-Player-and-Squad-Development That covered the problems which made me want to quit. Newgens and AI squad building probably the biggest part of the game for me so I need the FM that suits this best. I'm not sure how long it'll be until we see real progress from SI though, that FM will be the game changer for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashassin Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 00/01... i played this game for 4 years in real life... (i had really poor pc at the time, but hush ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalthebest Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Newgens are dreadful this year, the attribute distribution is so unrealistic.Think you're the one who was playing a different game after looking at the regens from FM12 I'll probably just try and stick tot his until an FM comes back with excellent AI squad building and regens. I have to disagree with you been fine for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 What features am I missing out on from FM13 w/ FM12?Is it just the DoF? Well, and UI revamp including indeed a much improved customisability, training revamp and the usual minor stuff like a new camera angle. Nothing which prevented me from going back to FM12 and not looking back since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 FM11. Still playing it after 2 years. Tried FM12 but could not stand not winning away from home despite having the best home record in the league, so I quit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfan2 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm liking FM13, but I am finding that decent newgens do seem (and I stress seem, I have no proof) to be from a very small number of countries. My Premier League leading team in season 2018/9 is mainly based around brilliant newgens from Mexico. I also have newgens from Argentina, France and Germany who are good but not quite as good as the ones from Mexico. In short my experience has been that the newgen system in FM13 is ok, but it does seem to be linked to nationalities a little (or perhaps a lot) too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I always start games with Vitesse Arnhem and fake players, I used FMRTE on FM11 to correct things like 5'3 goalkeepers and CBs, low stamina wide midfielders etc. Not just for my players either, any abnormal player I saw, I edited. Not encountered any weird players on fm13 yet, probably because they're real players with fake names at this stage. 00/01... i played this game for 4 years in real life... (i had really poor pc at the time, but hush )I got up to 2031 on that, even though I've bought every CM/FM since, I had only really stopped playing it by FM 2009. Still have it installed too.FM11. Still playing it after 2 years. Tried FM12 but could not stand not winning away from home despite having the best home record in the league, so I quit.I skipped fm 2012 too and barely played it when I caved in and bought it. My FM11 save is kind of still going and despite liking FM13 so far (bought it a few weeks back), I'd still go back to my FM11 save. Up to 2035 iirc.First post in GD for years :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 FM11. Still playing it after 2 years. Tried FM12 but could not stand not winning away from home despite having the best home record in the league, so I quit. I love FM11 as well. If that version had updated data I would still be skipping sleep to play it today. My all time favourite, however, was CM3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 FM12 for me. Aside from defenders that can't jump, which I fix using FMRTE, it seems pretty good long-term. FM11 and FM13 are the ones I've skipped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion22 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 2012, easily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/342744-30-Years-of-Full-Detail-Analysis-of-Long-Term-Player-and-Squad-DevelopmentThat covered the problems which made me want to quit. Newgens and AI squad building probably the biggest part of the game for me so I need the FM that suits this best. I'm not sure how long it'll be until we see real progress from SI though, that FM will be the game changer for me. This isnt new. The whole thread showed there had been improvements from previous FMs. Though clearly more work to be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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