andrefanta Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi Guys, Here once again to be able to share with you another tactic designed to patch the 13.3.2 and 13.3.3, the formation is the 3-1-5-1 with Twente the Netherlands One tactic pressuring, high defensive line and focus pass: through the middle. FAST PLAYERS WHERE CAN. GK-A good goalkeeper. CD-Fast, high, composure, concentration DM-Complete. W's-Good at the intersection, true winger CM-Complete, good finishing ST-Complete, good teamwork I don't use Shouts, this tactic is plug and play! The Training and Match Training The Transfers The Fixtures Eridivisie UEFA League Dutch Cup Team Stats Eridivisie UEFA league Player Stats Eridivisie UEFA League League Table Judging players season Best of 3 Matches Ajax PSV I started a save to test it on another team and chose Manchester City but as you can see almost all players sold and bought young players, it was only 6 players with more than 4 stars. As you can see is a fairly young team with a lot of potential but can still be considered a team zone UEFA or CHAMPIONS Download: Tactic- 3-1-5-1 Amen 13.3.2 /13.3.3 Facebook: Historia de Treinador I hope feedback's .. enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I encourage everyone to try this, it's an unusual formation but a very good tactic. I will post screens later, but with a strong Tottenham team in 2017 I have scored 60 and conceded only 2 in 19 league games. And it's so pleasing to see how your MCs are involved in the attack and score goals. My MCL so far is my top scorer with 15 goals in 19 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sari00 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 does work underdog team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcWeir Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Used this tactic with AGOVV in Holland prediction was 15th and i came 9th(didn't qualify for the playoffs because of weird rules i guess) but i revamped the whole team as my oldest player is 20 i can see some good play with my team, really encouraging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 As I said before: by VERY VERY FAR the BEST tactic for FM2013! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Tried this last night, with Southampton, very mixed results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Tried this last night, with Southampton, very mixed results. Persist some more, mainly until the formation bar is all the way up. Generally when you change to this formation the team really takes some time to get used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 dimartino, could you show us your result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Just tried this halfway through 2nd season with Liverpool and cant wait to get back home and continue. I only had time to play 3 games but wow.The midfield completely overwelmed the oposition and I won all 3 games. The good thing is that my team aren't yet comfortable with the tactic so I can't wait to see the perfomances when they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 does work underdog team? Sure, but can not yield much .. My Man City had young players with 2 star quality. finished second with 1 point behind Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Used this tactic with AGOVV in Holland prediction was 15th and i came 9th(didn't qualify for the playoffs because of weird rules i guess) but i revamped the whole team as my oldest player is 20 i can see some good play with my team, really encouraging may be a weak team, but that has players for formation .. could be better if I could get the players needed to tactic .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Tried this last night, with Southampton, very mixed results. maybe your players not adapted themselves how to play the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Just tried this halfway through 2nd season with Liverpool and cant wait to get back home and continue. I only had time to play 3 games but wow.The midfield completely overwelmed the oposition and I won all 3 games. The good thing is that my team aren't yet comfortable with the tactic so I can't wait to see the perfomances when they are. thanks for the feedback and good luck for the nexts games... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willz71172 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 this tactic is very nice to watch its helping my portsmouth team climb the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 dimartino, could you show us your result? Please don't get me wrong, but to be honest don't want have all that work. The tactic works! And it's its creator job to prove it with pics, and I think he did it pretty well in the OP. And please I don't say you win all matches, but what I really like is the way your team plays with this. I just lost the Europa League semi-final against Arsenal with an aggregated 1-5, but at the Emirates it was balanced but Arsenal's quality players made the difference agains my weaker (and plagued with injuries) Twente, so I lost 4-1. At home I still lost 0-1 but totally outplayed them 20-6 in shots, 4-0 in CCC's, Szczesny man of the match with 8.9 rating!!!! To resume it what I see in this tactic is that against weaker teams you really dominate, and against equal / stronger teams you either dominate or its a balanced games. I have yet to be dominated in a match playing with this tactic. But you will still lose a few (the game is made this way, sometimes you just HAVE to lose!), unless you have a very strong team. Moreover I now going to start a season with this tactic, so for the first time I'm going to build a team around it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 this tactic is very nice to watch its helping my portsmouth team climb the league good that you liked .. I have helped. behave some images of matches I'm grateful .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaii Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 its realy a very good tactic, i must say! realy good work here andrefanta, now my question is...its perhaps possible to use the concept of this tactic with a different formation? i like the way the team press's the opposition, and also the way the midfielders move around, attacking and defending, but is it possible to use this with a simple 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 or even a 3-4-3 ??! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 its realy a very good tactic, i must say! realy good work here andrefanta, now my question is...its perhaps possible to use the concept of this tactic with a different formation? i like the way the team press's the opposition, and also the way the midfielders move around, attacking and defending, but is it possible to use this with a simple 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 or even a 3-4-3 ??! I don't know, not tried it yet ... because I like the team that defends well. a 3-4-3 would not want to play .. perhaps it would be hard to defend so well. but you can try by moving one or CMD CME for the ST .. might give a 3 5 2 CONTE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaii Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 so u mean that to defend that well we need 3 CB, would never work with 2 CB and DR/DL?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 so u mean that to defend that well we need 3 CB, would never work with 2 CB and DR/DL?? not a tactic with 2 CB and defensive 1DR and 1 defensive DL, CB defends better than 3 but this tactic did thinking on defense, and suffer few goals. because then you can be a champion .. who takes no goal, an hour makes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naeg Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 i found this tactic and i tested it becouse its different from all ive seen before for fm 2013... i almost never post, but i had to after the first match... you have to see this victory i got... ive never dominated any team like this... it has to be some kind of bug tactic or exploit tactic... http://s24.postimg.org/futevzv2d/Sin_t_tulo.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/hqac65lvh/Sin_t_tulo2.jpg Check the first pic, i won 11-1... unreal!!!! Check the seccond pick, i manage river plate, my team is average at best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 i found this tactic and i tested it becouse its different from all ive seen before for fm 2013...i almost never post, but i had to after the first match... you have to see this victory i got... ive never dominated any team like this... it has to be some kind of bug tactic or exploit tactic... http://s24.postimg.org/futevzv2d/Sin_t_tulo.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/hqac65lvh/Sin_t_tulo2.jpg Check the first pic, i won 11-1... unreal!!!! Check the seccond pick, i manage river plate, my team is average at best... but the tactic works well ... Manchester City with my young players, 2 star of quality. I almost got the premier league champion in the first year ... you will get many results like these against weak teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I used this tactic in my Tottenham save in 2017-18... it's a strong team, but I won it all and it was easy. Defense was very solid, my team usually dominated possession and we scored some very beautiful goals. For those like me that enjoy seeing the midfielders heavily involved in the attacking and scoring a lot, this tactic is a joy. I made only very small changes to set pieces, and reduced the tackling of the defenders to normal to avoid reckless tackling that could result in penalty kicks for the AI. Now if this tactic can be tweaked to score just a little bit more, it would be the perfect tactic. I also wonder if a little more creative freedom could be beneficial or not. Some screens of the league table, player stats and results: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbaccm Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 tweak it and upload for us? playing overload for 90 mins is not a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 tweak it and upload for us? playing overload for 90 mins is not a good idea overhead does not say anything, team instructions are edited directly in the instructions of the players .. this tactic is plug & play. If you did not see him 108 goals and conceded 16 in the PREMIER LEAGUE. I think that is not a very OVERLOAD, don't think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 TIKI-TAKA of Twente against Barcelona? looool not given for barcelona and Twente win the European Super Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabelou Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What pitch size do you recommend ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 What pitch size do you recommend ? I used Standard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverblabe Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Now if this tactic can be tweaked to score just a little bit more, it would be the perfect tactic. I also wonder if a little more creative freedom could be beneficial or not. I like that my striker is scoring a lot. One very small tweak I did is that you put your striker as target man with supply to feet. Aguero has scored 8 goals and did 5 assists in his 5 first games (new Man City save to test that tactic). Will update later to see if he's scoring even more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane0 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 seems like a good tactic to try with Juventus..hehe. Been trying to find motivation to play FM more often nowadays.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 seems like a good tactic to try with Juventus..hehe. Been trying to find motivation to play FM more often nowadays.. this tactic will rediscover the motivation lool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear30 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 One question do you use OI's or just go straight to game with ass man on the talks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 One question do you use OI's or just go straight to game with ass man on the talks? what do you mean? can write without abbreviations because my English is not good .. lool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 "Opposition instructions" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 "Opposition instructions" I don't use anything.. this tactic is plug&play.. if u want use this.. can try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Neto Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Best tactic i've ever used since modern warfare. amazing stuff. "Muito bom o que vc conseguiu. Parabéns!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverblabe Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 no idea why I can't make it work in my new test save : Really poor playing, both offensively and defensively... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 no idea why I can't make it work in my new test save : Really poor playing, both offensively and defensively... The problem is with you. maybe you do not use the players required. which team are you playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Best tactic i've ever used since modern warfare. amazing stuff."Muito bom o que vc conseguiu. Parabéns!" Thanks, and have fun! if u can post the images of your season I would be very grateful. Obrigado cara! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolf Adi Dassler Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 This tactic offers beautiful football. Solid defence with piercing attacks. My only annoyance is that the players get tired way too quickly with this. Especially the W's,DM and CM's. They'd start with their condition in the 90% range and by half time they'll be at 70%. I'm considering taking overload off, will this dramatically alter the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 This tactic offers beautiful football. Solid defence with piercing attacks. My only annoyance is that the players get tired way too quickly with this. Especially the W's,DM and CM's. They'd start with their condition in the 90% range and by half time they'll be at 70%. I'm considering taking overload off, will this dramatically alter the tactic? if you want change, you have to change the instructions of the players .. but would advise you to leave like this. tries to reduce the training before the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanthecat Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I decided to try this tactic after a number of seasons using Modern Warfare with Coventry City to huge success. Sorry but this tactic just does not work at all for me - started a new game with Arsenal a team that includes players who can play across midfield the likes of Wiltshire, Arteta, Cazorla, Ramsey, Arsharvin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho, Diaby, Walcott, Podolski and too which I added Tadic, Ayew, Schneiderlin and Ilsinho. I added Jovetic, Shawcross and Paletta to the squad - I got sacked after 25 games in the Prem where I was sat in 14th position with a record off W7 D5 L13 F42 A59 PTS26 - this including getting beat by bottom of the league WBA 5-0 at home! An unbelievable amount of injuries - in one game against Fulham i ended up with 9 players on the pitch, I lost 4 to injury. To be fair in Europe it worked well, I qualified top of my Champions League Group losing only 1 game but in the Premiership its sucks big time. I am tempted to give it another go but this time with FC Twente to see how it compares with andrefanta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 I decided to try this tactic after a number of seasons using Modern Warfare with Coventry City to huge success.Sorry but this tactic just does not work at all for me - started a new game with Arsenal a team that includes players who can play across midfield the likes of Wiltshire, Arteta, Cazorla, Ramsey, Arsharvin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho, Diaby, Walcott, Podolski and too which I added Tadic, Ayew, Schneiderlin and Ilsinho. I added Jovetic, Shawcross and Paletta to the squad - I got sacked after 25 games in the Prem where I was sat in 14th position with a record off W7 D5 L13 F42 A59 PTS26 - this including getting beat by bottom of the league WBA 5-0 at home! An unbelievable amount of injuries - in one game against Fulham i ended up with 9 players on the pitch, I lost 4 to injury. To be fair in Europe it worked well, I qualified top of my Champions League Group losing only 1 game but in the Premiership its sucks big time. I am tempted to give it another go but this time with FC Twente to see how it compares with andrefanta. About injuries, tries to reduce the training putting more preparations for games ... and on the results but I do not know what to tell you, here it is the print that's all the tested tactics and has more print's the "FM-BASE" maybe you had a little less luck. as you can see, I made a save with Man City, Arsenal in the same league with the team full of young. and finished in second place. maybe the problem is with you, maybe you do not put fast defenders, the way that you speak with the staff. these things count a lot in Football Manager 13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverblabe Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The problem is with you.maybe you do not use the players required. which team are you playing? Playing with AC Milan. I tried it with Montpellier in French first league and won championship quite easily. In fact, it's quite random, because I didn't change anything in my managing method. Do you have any advice on making my striker score more ? I really love when I have a scoring machine uprfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanthecat Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Thanks andrefanta - Vermaelen pace 14 Acceleration 12, Koscielny pace pace 13 Acceleration 14, Palletta pace 14 acceleration 14, Shawcross Acceleration 12 and Pace 13 - so I dont think it is a lack of pace at the back. I won 5 out of 5 friendlies with the tactic including 3-0 v Valencia, 2-0 v Seville and 4-1 v FCP. Then as soon as the seasons started I lost 3-1 to Fulham first game, 2-0 to Everton and drew 1-1 with Liverpool, I didnt change anything from the friendlies? Are all your results in 13.3.3?? I just wanted something different to Modern Warfare - I will keep trying now as I've started a new game with FC Twente using this tactic. So how do you speak with your staff then? Or team talks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Playing with AC Milan. I tried it with Montpellier in French first league and won championship quite easily. In fact, it's quite random, because I didn't change anything in my managing method. Do you have any advice on making my striker score more ? I really love when I have a scoring machine uprfront. for the striker to make more goals .. places run from deep - sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrefanta Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Thanks andrefanta - Vermaelen pace 14 Acceleration 12, Koscielny pace pace 13 Acceleration 14, Palletta pace 14 acceleration 14, Shawcross Acceleration 12 and Pace 13 - so I dont think it is a lack of pace at the back. I won 5 out of 5 friendlies with the tactic including 3-0 v Valencia, 2-0 v Seville and 4-1 v FCP. Then as soon as the seasons started I lost 3-1 to Fulham first game, 2-0 to Everton and drew 1-1 with Liverpool, I didnt change anything from the friendlies? Are all your results in 13.3.3?? I just wanted something different to Modern Warfare - I will keep trying now as I've started a new game with FC Twente using this tactic. So how do you speak with your staff then? Or team talks? The lesions probably gave you more work during the season! tries to reduce the training and put more preparation for matches. all results are in patch 13.3.3. I do not have many injuries in my game, because I edited the lesions by the editor and dimunir, then why I leave the training heavier ... maybe you can not make very heavy .. that the problem of FM13. I really like to buy young, but if you have many injuries and the low training young people and could not evolve evolve .. and so I edited the injuries and place training normal .. Before House - the favorite - aggressive Away - Assertive / can win Home against big - Assertive / can win Half time winning 2x0 or less - aggressive winning 3-0 or more - quiet / continue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentclark Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Great tactic :-) Really enjoying this game again now that I have this great tatic. Just wanted to add something. If people have problems with strikers not scoring that many goals, making his settings to run from deep to sometimes really did the trick for me. hope this helps :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chob Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I've been using this tactic for a season and a half now and would recommend it to anyone. I rarely lose and some of the wins are fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofdarkness Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Hi andrefanta, Seems to be a very interesting tactics Would you please explain more about "complete midfield" and "complete DM" Which stats are those players required? Also, would you please recommend potential winger for the tactics, want to try with Arsenal Thanks in advance man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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