IMFC Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sorry but your tactic is crap!Just got thrashed by Atalanta.First shot on target in the 43 minute.The squad is the original Juve's plus Nani and Llorente.The morale is pretty high too. Maybe you're not a good FM player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Played 5 games with Montreal Impact in MLS. 4 wins 1 lose This ME is still aweful and will be all year but it's the best tactic i've used so far. good job mate ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuek Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 wow thanks for the plug and play tactic.. lol the usually terrible james perch, gabriel obertan, dan gosling are playing excellent for my newcastle team. currently sitting on top of EPL in my 1st season hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreet Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Maybe you're not a good FM player I am not a master, but i've been playing it for 10 years.I keep morale high, have a good squad and the plug and play tactic does not work.Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 wow thanks for the plug and play tactic..lol the usually terrible james perch, gabriel obertan, dan gosling are playing excellent for my newcastle team. currently sitting on top of EPL in my 1st season hehe Thats really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 http://www.gamefront.com/files/22849441/Juventus+v+Atalanta.rar Here is the Atalanta game. Sorry, I tried to download it but it did not pass my antivirus program. Anyway, you dont have to prove anything, I believe you. My point is that not all tactics suit all players and managers, the way one picks and rotate the players, the man management etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadedEagle Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Tried this with Crewe, the first couple of games went bad but now I'm on an amazing streak. Great tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Tried this with Crewe, the first couple of games went bad but now I'm on an amazing streak. Great tactic. That sounds great. What was your media prediction ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'd love to know how people are getting the results they're getting with this tactic. Seems to fit the players I have perfectly (Everton, 2nd season, Fellaini gone, replaced with M'Villa, Kirchhoff, Kiyotake and Anderson brought in) but I'm getting absolutely hammered consistently. Any advice much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well except if my game is broken, then i don't see another reason for it. Bad morale, not familiar with tactics yet, picking players not suited for it +++ Could be many reasons. I haven't tried the tactics myself, but since others have great success with it the tactic is obviously not crap or useless like you claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Update on my Southampton save Pretty good trashing of Chelsea, getting 8 Clear Cut Chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmcosta Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Update on my Southampton save Pretty good trashing of Chelsea, getting 8 Clear Cut Chances Excellent results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsk89 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Not one tactic is winning on my FC Utrecht at the moment, losing all games the last minute or drawing against very low teams.. I won the league in my first season with just 2 buys (Hiljemark and Adryan). Sold many players, so that might be the wrong thing. Im using this the last few games, 1-2 loss against barcelona, where I was better (7 CCC's and more chances overall). I'll keep you posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Too many conceded goals, too many yellow cards. Does not really work for my Basel. I'll keep trying as I like the formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Too many conceded goals, too many yellow cards. Does not really work for my Basel.I'll keep trying as I like the formation. Yeah, these 2 things go hand in hand. If the players and the squad struggles with the approach, they will get caught out of position, getting frustrated etc, all resulting in lots of cards. Lets see if things turn for the better. Btw, what kind of MR and MC are you using. Are they defensivly good enough or are you using weak players with great technique ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I usually play Marcelo Diaz at MC and Anthony Vanden Borre at MR, simply because they're the most well-rounded players for this position on my squad. I do have more defensive (Cabral) and offensive (Hleb, David Degen, Fabian Frei) options. My first elven: GK: Yann Sommer DR: Philipp Degen DC: Radoslav Kovac DC: Aleksandar Dragovic DL: Sebastian Boenisch DM: Cabral MC: Marcelo Diaz MR: Anthony Vanden Borre AML: Valentin Stocker AMC: Aliaksandr Hleb SC: Michy Batshuayi (waiting for Jan Chramosta to cure his injury) A decent team I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy1980 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 5 games so far 5 wins, plenty of goals as well. Everton with a few free players signed that's it. Loving it so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This is the best tactic around! Have started several saves with my favourite team in Portuguese second league (media prediction 17th out of 22) with the most successful tactics in the forum. Altough having finnished champion with at least 2 other tactics, I always scored and suffered lots of goals! With this one I have not yet finnished the season but with 19 games (played 23) to go I'm sitting on top 15 points clear of second, and with a fantastic 54-7 goal record. I tend to use left side version on one half and right side version on the other. I feel it really confuses opposition. Have had quite a few matches where I had very weak first halfs, then change it, and end up winning 3-0, 4-0, etc. I was never a big fan of your tactics in past versions, but concerning 2013 I have to say: Well done TBH, top work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bububaggins Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 do you place your striker as a target man as its ticked, and is the amc your playmaker ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 do you place your striker as a target man as its ticked, and is the amc your playmaker ? The Target man is not ticked to use as far as I know of. The playmakers box is ticked and set to " none" to make sure that the AMC is NOT chosen by default. No Target man or playmaker are used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydreamteam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Fantastic tactic the best one I have used on FM 13 my TOTTENHAM side are flying and playing lovely football. well done and thanks. I am going to start a Guardiola style project career at Bayern Munich with this tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree, fantastic tactic here mate... juste one problem, the huge amount of long shots... But still, what a tactic ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree, fantastic tactic here mate... juste one problem, the huge amount of long shots... But still, what a tactic ! Thanks. About the Longshots: It's a ME issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yes, it is! But for me the most annoying ME problem is the winger's runs at the end line concluded with stupid shots with impossible angles, instead of assisting the 2 to 3 team mates inside the box, that just sit there waiting for the clever pass that never comes... To make it even more unrealistic about 50% of this stupid shots at goal actually go in!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-Beam Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 TBH, this tactic looks very promising indeed albeit early days within my current Spurs save. I'm currently using this tactic, Zero Sea 7 and Brau's ST less formation as my three trained tactics with a view to keeping things fresh and the AI on their toes! I can see such promising movement and momentum with this tactic and cannot wait to be fully gelled! KUTGW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 TBH, this tactic looks very promising indeed albeit early days within my current Spurs save. I'm currently using this tactic, Zero Sea 7 and Brau's ST less formation as my three trained tactics with a view to keeping things fresh and the AI on their toes! I can see such promising movement and momentum with this tactic and cannot wait to be fully gelled! KUTGW Sounds great. Loking forward to hearing some feedback from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry26 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Can you give training pic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hello tbh, I'll test your tactic, as you put this team? Mandanda, rafael, vidic, ferdinand, evra, carrick, xavi, nani, rooney, iniesta, van persie. as were their positions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlesgaKillie Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This is the best tactic for FM13 period. If you get a AMC who is competant your running away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytran Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If a player gets sent off (usually my DM or FB), which position up front would you take out to replace the carded player? And great tactic TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Can you give training pic? Training is a feature I use to develop and form my players. If I was to manage your squad, I would not set it up the same way as I do in my current save so its pointless for me to put up a screen. After all, my training also differs depending on what team I use and I have plenty of saves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 This is the best tactic for FM13 period. If you get a AMC who is competant your running away with it. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 If a player gets sent off (usually my DM or FB), which position up front would you take out to replace the carded player?And great tactic TBH. It depends on the score in the game and the opponents formation. Sometimes, if the opponent is flooding the midfield, I don't use a AML but instead, I put the AMC into AMCleft and the DL in WBL. Sometimes, I don't use a DMC but instead drop down the AMC into MCleft. Sometimes, If the opponent play really attacking and pushes up, I use a 451 with MC, MC, AML, AMR and drop the mentality of the pushed up DMC so it's the same as the MCRight All this is with the " normal" formation so if using the "mirrored", AML means AMR , DL means DR etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hello tbh, I'll test your tactic, as you put this team?Mandanda, rafael, vidic, ferdinand, evra, carrick, xavi, nani, rooney, iniesta, van persie. as were their positions? Looks good but consider this.. Nani as a MR or ML: He is **** in defending so in tough away matches, I would use Valencia any day Van Persie & Rooney. Here, you can easily play them as a FC and a AMR/L as both positions are great for players that likes to "comes deep to get ball". In the AMC position however, that ppm is not that great if the FC has it to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry26 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Training is a feature I use to develop and form my players. If I was to manage your squad, I would not set it up the same way as I do in my current save so its pointless for me to put up a screen. After all, my training also differs depending on what team I use and I have plenty of saves Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Final results of the Forest ( a top team) 2015/16 season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Final results of the Forest ( a top team) 2015/16 season Hello tbh, I save with the new man utd, I'm buying the players according to the attributes that you indicated, I will soon put 11 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hello tbh, I save with the new man utd, I'm buying the players according to the attributes that you indicated, I will soon put 11 players. Apart from getting one brilliant world class DMC/MC, yhou dont need more players for it. One hint on the way, dont use Rooney & RVP as the FC-AMC partnership as BOTH have the ppm " comes deep". Best to use them as AML and FC then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 hi just trying your tactic with Arsenal , things didn't start great , lost 3-1 at home against a Liverpool but will continue with it as my team are currently in a bad patch , I have Fellaini as the DM , should he be ok there? Also who would you suggest as the striker , I have Giroud there but want to get maybe someone new in January , should I look for someone who can play the advanced striker role well? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Apart from getting one brilliant world class DMC/MC, yhou dont need more players for it. One hint on the way, dont use Rooney & RVP as the FC-AMC partnership as BOTH have the ppm " comes deep". Best to use them as AML and FC then. Game debut for Man City lost out 3-2. Soon I will put the 11 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh, defender on the left, he's the cover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh this are the 11 players, what do you think? GK - De Gea FB - Evans Stopper - Vidic Cover - Ferdinand WB - Rafael DMC - Thiago Silva MR - Pjanic MC - Raul Meireles AMC - Van Persie AML - Modric Forward - Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hi Anyone know what sort of player I should be using in the amc position , Corzorla has been playing there but when he gets the ball he does not know what to do with it and ups getting closed down and either loses the ball or has to attempt a back pass , Wilshire is still coming back from injury but maybe will try him unless its not suited to either player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh this are the 11 players, what do you think?GK - De Gea FB - Evans Stopper - Vidic Cover - Ferdinand WB - Rafael DMC - Thiago Silva MR - Pjanic MC - Raul Meireles AMC - Van Persie AML - Modric Forward - Rooney LIke I answered earlier, dont use both an AMC AND a FC that likes to come deep to get the ball.Other than that, it looks good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 HiAnyone know what sort of player I should be using in the amc position , Corzorla has been playing there but when he gets the ball he does not know what to do with it and ups getting closed down and either loses the ball or has to attempt a back pass , Wilshire is still coming back from injury but maybe will try him unless its not suited to either player? I like to use a AMC/FC rather then a TQ, someone that likes to get inside the box and knows how to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh, defender on the left, he's the cover? Like in the screenshots, he is not ON cover, but one should use one that is ebtter suited for that, just like using a players better suited for the stopper role in the DCright. If using the mirrored version, its the other way around Also remember that yuour team will need time to gell. All of your 5 midfielders including RVP are new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 LIke I answered earlier, dont use both an AMC AND a FC that likes to come deep to get the ball.Other than that, it looks good ok thx, I will continue testing the tactic once you arrive in January, maybe put new transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Like in the screenshots, he is not ON cover, but one should use one that is ebtter suited for that, just like using a players better suited for the stopper role in the DCright. If using the mirrored version, its the other way aroundAlso remember that yuour team will need time to gell. All of your 5 midfielders including RVP are new 'm using to cover Ferdinand, Phil Jones is reserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 ok thx, I will continue testing the tactic once you arrive in January, maybe put new transfers. Just be carefull with the transfers. If you decide to build a new team, it will take some time and this should always be done with the next years in mind so dont expect to win the CL with many new transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just be carefull with the transfers. If you decide to build a new team, it will take some time and this should always be done with the next years in mind so dont expect to win the CL with many new transfers Hello tbh, I do not know what I'm doing wrong, while 7 wins, 3 defeats in the league, tottenham 3x2 man utd, man city 3x2 man utd, man utd 0x1 Chelsea. the tactic is already 100% fluid. 'm using defensive positioning in training. help me please. thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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