papamogl Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Please upload your tweak tactic As far as I know there is no tweak to this tactic. I certainly have not made one myself, so I cannot upload anything new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Late comer to FM13 but decided to go with this tactic for my Aberdeen career. On the latest patch and so far so good. Won all my preseason games against lower Scottish opposition (which I’d expect), and also had a 2-2 draw with Swansea – I was two up and should’ve switched to Counter and I also threw on all my subs for some match practice. Could’ve won if I’d really wanted it I suppose. In the league I’ve played four games so far. Celtic (a) 1-2 Dundee Utd (h) 2-0 St Johnstone (a) 0-0 Hearts (h) 2-1 Pretty good so far. I didn’t read the bit about changing mentalities until now so maybe I could’ve drawn with Celtic. Hopefully we can keep gelling and avoid injuries. if the tactic keeps working I will finish second – if it doesn’t, we won’t. Its as simple as that Thanks for work so far. Will keep you informed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Thanks for your input Cadijk. I hope it keeps performing and I'm curious to hear how it goes for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJaffacakeo Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What sort of results are people having in the new patch? I'm quite interested in bringing this to my Milan team. I currently use complete domination from FM10! It's not pretty but just about works so I'm thinking about this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'd like to know that too. I haven't played in a while, but if it isn't as effective as before on the new patch I'd probably try to make it work again and release a second version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceWoodhall Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Using this tactic on an Arsenal team and I'm having a lot of shots, roughly around 20 a game but lack in scoring scoring, rarely get more than 6 on target. Is there any tips you can give on how to improve on this. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Could be for a lot of reasons. Are you on the new patch? Could you post some stats probably? How many shots are from a long range, how many are blocked, which of your players are getting shots ect. Also, are you creating clear cut chances or is your team lacking there too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceWoodhall Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 It's fine now, read through this and changed a few of the player roles to what someone said earlier on. Taking a lot more of our chances now. Just won 5-0 at home to westham. Thanks for your help anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Would you mind posting which roles you changed? Would be interesting to hear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceWoodhall Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Changed the two out wide to wingers from inside forwards and the AP in the centre to trequartista. Now I'm slacking again, drawing 1-1 away to Sunderland and lost 1-0 away to villa in my last two games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceWoodhall Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 And just got torn apart away to Reading. Really not sure what is going on because it all looked like it was going well now it's just slumped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Try and increase the closing down of your trequartista. Also I found it not ideal to have two wingers with this tactic because you need a strong striker in the middle to get at the end of the crosses. Might be better to employ a lopsided approach with one winger and one inside forward. You can still field a strong striker like this but you'll have some pace in the middle too through the inside forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceWoodhall Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'll give this a try, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 And please do report back whether it worked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieAdamsLeftFoot Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 anyone care to share the tactic with the tweak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurospidey Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Ah, sorry for not reporting. Second season with Real Madrid and I find this tactic is tailor suited to that team. The only change I did was mirroring it to the left to adapt it to Marcelo as WB. For the rest, a lot possession of the ball, a lot of shots arond 20 per game more or less, the opposition almost none. Overall very good tactic, thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Thanks for the feedback Kurospidey. Are you on the latest patch? If so it'd seem as if it is still working fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-RELIGION Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Can't get constant results since the new patch :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babosvelz Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I've been using this tactic (converted to classic) with my psv side, very successful 1st season, but after that couldnt put a consistent run of games together, seemed to be conceding far too much. so I made a few adjustments to it and it seems to be working pretty well. haven't had a chance to test it with any other teams yet though, but I've won the title the last 2 seasons and made it to the champions league semi final this season (group: PSG, Benfica, Standard, finished top. Knockout: Fernabache, Sevilla, eliminated in semi by Barcelona) . basically, its been converted to classic, time wasting has been taken down a few notches, counter attack has been ticked, and player instructions for the LB and both CB's have been changed so they are a bit more defensively sound. http://www.mediafire.com/?qh27ks6dkcourg4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurospidey Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Thanks for the feedback Kurospidey. Are you on the latest patch? If so it'd seem as if it is still working fine Yes, on the latest patch. I just ended the second season. The second one wasn't as succesful as the first but nothing to do with the patch (I keep having a lot of shots and possession the majority of the games) but more with me selling Ronaldo at half the season and starting a lot of inexperienced young players. I think it depends on the players you have. I think for Real this tactic is great, but maybe for a relegation team with no creative players they would struggle. If I have time I'll upload some screenshots later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like some interesting adjustments, will probably test them should I get back around at playing the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-RELIGION Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The main problem of this tactic is for european competitions, I don't have good results :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Rather peculiar problem. Maybe a lack of experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yid182 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 well i'm using this on the latest patch for my benfica save and so far 4 wins from 4 although not yet come up against real top opposition. so i will keep going and post results as i get furthur into it. On a side not the attacking wing back role is working great, i'm using Maxi Pereira there and in 4 games he has 4 goals and 2 assists!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Woot, that sounds like a modern wingback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura116 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 show me this:4-2-3-1 with inside forw and box to box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 show me this:4-2-3-1 with inside forw and box to box Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to change some of the roles of this tactic? If so, you're free to try but I don't know whether it'll work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigin Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Hey! So I have tried this tactic for a couple of seasons. (Just started my fourth season with Liverpool) I followed the changes above and made my inside forwards wingers. First season i barely made it without getting sacked, finished on a 6th place and a eurospot, I think I would have been sacked otherwise. Second season I sold alot of players, I needed some new wingers casue the ones I had suck (except Sterling who need a year or two before he is a starter) My transfer targets was mainly wingers and defensive midfielders. Once again I finished 6th in the league but I won the Europa League. Still my troop is a little thin and volunerable when I get injuries and dont have the quality to fill the spots. Third season: Some good summer transfers and I have a nice team with some good competition on every spot. My forward becomes top scorer in Premier League, one of my wingers wins the assist league and I WIN the premier league title and the Europa League again! Must say that im very satisfied with this tactic, going for the champions league title now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 Thanks for the heads up aigin. Good luck with the champions league, you sure can do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilljons Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I cant get this system to work... The tactic mainly falls on my cb's constant desire to make costly mistakes. I play as feyenoord and use de vriej and bruno martins as cb. Sure, they are young but look at their stats. They are top backs in eredivise with those stats. Cant wrap my head around it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Strange issue, the centre backs don't have to do anything fancy in this tactic. What kind of mistakes do they do? Misplacing passes? Missing tackles? If you could specify this we might get closer to finding the cause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilljons Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Well hard to see exactly what they do wrong. But i i'd say anything it's that they make odd decisions. Dont think they coop too well with the offside-trapping either. Ive revamped my playing style and now i play with balanced mentality with a stopper/cover duo and no offside trap. Seems to work better. Edit: Btw, are you still playing with this tactic? No other changes compared to the OP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Actually I'm not playing anymore. But I never bothered making a v2 as the interest seemed pretty low and it already worked so well for me. So no, I didn't make any changes to the original tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextorious Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I lost 8 out of my first 11 games as Dortmund with this tactic, then got knocked out of all the cups and finished 2nd, 12 points behind Bayern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Sorry to hear. It sounds rather realistic, though First season? Seems to need some time to settle judging from your horrible start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextorious Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yes first season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthit Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 hi guys, other than mentality, what else is needed to change when defending a lead or chasing a goal? thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckler Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 What do you do when you go down to 10 men with this tac? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsatu Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 This is by far the best tactic I have used. Im in season 2 with Dortmund and have only lost 1 league match in 24 games and am cruising to the title with games to spare. Scoring loads of goals while conceding very little. Not using many shouts either. I am using this home and away in all competitions as well. Definately the best plug and play tactic right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 @St1ckler depending on the situation, but I tend to remove one of the wingers if the opponent isn't terribly dangerous down the flanks. Else, the AM makes way usually @djsatu Thank you very much, good to hear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmfreak Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I am getting ready for my season no. 4 with Derby County. As I need a new style of play, and have been inspired by the way Dortmund play in real life, I am going to use this tactic this season. I finished 10th in the Premier League last season, so it will be interesting to see if this tactic can give us a needed lift! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Good luck. And please report back how it went Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stomil Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Hi Great tactic, possesion is amazing One question - which foots do You prefer for wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thank you- I never had any preferences and used just the players I had. Both worked for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benawhite85 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 do you have any transfer filters for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Sorry, I never took the time to make some. But I think with the info in the first post you should be able to make some on your own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigin Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Fourth season: I won the premiership, carling cup, the FA cup and the champions league =) Anyone wanna see some screens of some sort? Just ask! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papamogl Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 Well, I'd love to see some screenshots! Tables of course, but maybe one of your strikers achievements too if you don't mind. What a season, you seem to be unbeatable at the moment. I guess the fans must be pretty pleased with their manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Anyone still using this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.midt Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 i`ll second that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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