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4-2-3-1 Dortmund - posession, winning, highly aesthetic [patch 13.1.3]

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Startin a new save(13.2) with Man Utd right now. Going to test your tactic, give you some feedback as the game progress. Any recommendation???

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Thanks, I'm keen on your report. Don't know what sort of recommandation you're after but I think with ManU you should do just fine

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Started using this tactic after a break from the game & since have found it hard to put back down lol! I took over a struggling Everton team in the Championship & for the first season I found that we'd dominate every game but couldn't kill games off which led to a lot of dropped points in games we should have won. It got so bad that my job status was very insecure at one point. The football we were playing was great however so I stuck with it & eventually missed out on play off promotion via penalties. Now in my first full season it's clicked & we're finally putting games to bed.

Results:

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Table:

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Since using this tactic I can't remember the last time we didn't boss a game statistically, the only blips being the West Ham result which half of my players were very tired for & the Manchester games where we put in a very good account of ourselves.

I leave everything as it is, only switching strategy to counter when 2 goals up or late on when seeing out a game.

In short, stick with it & it should hopefully come good..

Thanks Papamogl!

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@wanderlei slice thanks for your detailed feedback. Nice to know it works in lower league too. Competing against ManU is not bad for a Championship side. And good to see you conceded less than one goal per game on average during the season

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Am i the only one who got a virus after i clicked on the download-link?:( i hope so othereise i wonder if there is something wrong with the link?

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Played around 12-15 games using just about the same tactic, using Spurs in my second season. Season was flagging, but I've now won all my games bar a 1-0 loss to Liverpool and a last minute equalizer for Wolves 1-1 against me.

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@busen39 wow I'm very sorry there! I don't know what went wrong though, as nobody else seems to have that problem. If you want I can send you the tactic per mail (just pm me) or upload it to another hoster.

@EuanMarneyW nice run. Thanks for the feedback

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@papamogl: Yes, I don't think you have done anything bad. Maybe it was because i had a old version of Java or so. I dunno anything about computers. :) But i certainly doesn't blame you!

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In my second season with Tottenham. Used Zero Sea's latest tactic during my first campaign and won the EPL, EL and FA Cup. Decided to give this one a go at the start of my second season. Will report back with the results.

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Doesn't sound like you needed a new tactic when you did so well, but thanks that you give mine a try. I'd love to hear your results

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Going to give this tactic a go on my Villa practice save. I have a batch of upcoming games where we're playing several of the big teams, so that should give me an idea how this tactic will hold up. Will post back later to let you know how I got on.

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Couple of questions - is this tactic working okay on 13.2.1? And I saw on one of your screenshots that you have Playmaker selected and you've got Gotze (your AMC) selected in the dropdown menu, does that mean we also have to select our AMC in the dropdown menu or could we leave that blank?

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It's working on the new patch and the AMC should already be ticked as playmaker, so no need to make any changes

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Well just played first match using this - Portuguese second division with Santa Clara away against Arouca - won 2-1. This is a great result as I've used a few tactics since the new patches came out over the last few days and this is the first time I've won that match. Think I'll stick with this for a bit and see if it beds in okay.

Cheers bud.

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Have a look at post #41. Last season he scored 23 goals in 31 appearances for me with an average rating of 7.33

How many does he score for you? Are other players stepping in or are you unhappy with the amount your team scores as a whole?

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Hi Papa - well, tried the tactic for a good 12 games but it was just too inconsistent for me - to be fair I am in the Portuguese second division so it might not be great for teams with weaker players. Over the 12 games I won about 5/6 of them and lost about 3/4. I'd stay with it a bit longer but my job might be up for the sack if that form continues. Might come back to it when I've improved the squad a bit.

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Sure, thanks for trying and for reporting back. I never tested it in lower league so it might be too demanding for a weaker squad. It's quite a high tempo after all. But it might also be true that especially with a weaker squad it's the more important that the players have enough time to get used to the tactic. So maybe it might have become more consistent with increased familiarity. Be it as it may, thanks again for trying

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Funny, played only two games yesterday, and Lewandowski scored thrice. So he does definitely score enough, eventhough this might not be the best tactic to have one prolific striker scoring ridiculous amounts. It's more about teamwork, with wingers and midfielders (and even wingbacks) scoring regularly too

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Played 22 games with Spurs, won 18, lost 3 and drawn 1. Main weaknesses are definitely conceding from set pieces, and vulnerability from your fBs/WBs being very attacking. Conceding a lot of goals with moves that are started wide - quite often someone arrives at the back post completely unmarked, to

score from a cross that has come from the other wing. In my last game against Arsenal, i closed down their wide midfielders 'always' and put man marking on them, and this seemed to do the trick. Might have been a one off, but Arsenal didn't have a look in, the entire game. Will test further. I was playing with Alaba at attacking wingback on the left, with Bale as IF in front of him, but due to an Alaba injury, I've come to realise that Bale is damn near unplayable, running from deep as the attacking wingback. I've been playing Isco ahead of him now as an IF, with Draxler also getting some first team time to push him on a bit.

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Thanks for the insight. I was mostly conceding from set pieces too. It helps a lot to set match training to defending set pieces.

With your wide defenders being very attacking it's natural that the odd gap opens for counter attacks. I'll be looking into this for a v2 should there be enough interest for it. Maybe I could balance it a bit more, though I like my wingbacks attacking :)

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On the attack this tactic is unbelievable although I only ever score 1 or 2 goals a game despite having 30+ shots in the game. But I also seem to concede to absolutely every team no matter who it is I'm playing. Also when playing away from home I never ever win, I'm playing as Arsenal too so my defence as a whole is great. Am I doing something wrong?

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Don't know what is wrong that your strikers don't score despite having enough shots. For away games try a more cautious approach (e.g. switching to standard or counter, depending on the opponent)

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Well I don't know what's going wrong then on a regular basis. Can you post some stats of the next few away games your team fails to win? Would love to have a look at that as it might help developing it further

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Thanks for the screens. It's true, while the stats all look great the results could be better. I can't tell where the problem lies from these though. Are a lot of the shots from long range? Or blocked? Also are you playing Giroud as your striker? Can you possibly upload the match files so I can watch them in full to get a better idea what is going on?

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Just a little tip for anybody still using this tactic: switch crossing to "drill crosses". It's no big deal but I found it to be slightly more effective

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Just a little tip for anybody still using this tactic: switch crossing to "drill crosses". It's no big deal but I found it to be slightly more effective

Where to set?

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It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses"

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It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses"

can you upload tweak version?

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It's in the team settings where you can set the passing, d-line, play offside, and such. One option is crossing which is set to default. Switch this to "drill crosses"

drill crosses=low cross?

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Don't know where you found a low cross option, it should be called drill crosses. I can send you a tweaked version but not until tomorrow or wednesday I'm afraid

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Don't know where you found a low cross option, it should be called drill crosses. I can send you a tweaked version but not until tomorrow or wednesday I'm afraid

ok appreciated.my email address is guardiang@hanmail.net

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So you found it? All the better then. Just leave it on default if you like that better and thanks for the feedback

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So you found it? All the better then. Just leave it on default if you like that better and thanks for the feedback

yes,thank yoou.

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Sorry, I don't think I understand what you mean. What's this about control and standard? I regularly switch between those (and attacking, overload, and counter) depending on the opponent and on the circumstances during the match

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Sorry, I don't think I understand what you mean. What's this about control and standard? I regularly switch between those (and attacking, overload, and counter) depending on the opponent and on the circumstances during the match

i mean The starting mentality is set to "standard" by default.Strong team no matter about any team

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You have to change that from game to game, depending on how strong your opponent is and whether you play at home or away. When you are managing a strong team you can set control as default instruction, but still you should change it for certain games (against title contendery, on away games and so on)

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You have to change that from game to game, depending on how strong your opponent is and whether you play at home or away. When you are managing a strong team you can set control as default instruction, but still you should change it for certain games (against title contendery, on away games and so on)

You are absolutely right.thank you for your advice

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