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I read an excellent article on mentoring while researching to build my youth system on FM Scout

http://www.fmscout.com/a-youth-development-on-football-manager-tutoring-guide.html.

The article stressed using mentors to build mental a young player's "personality." The author stresses several hidden attributes in a mentor, and the visible attribute determination. I think other mental attributes are also important, although I am not sure they can be learned through tutoring. My list includes:

Determination

Work rate

Decisions

Teamwork

Question: does anyone know if these other mental attributes can be trained through tutoring?

If so, I propose a list of excellent mentors. These are players who will be great with the youth team, yet still able to contribute to the first team. Name some players you've brought (or would like to bring) to your club specifically to bring up the young 'uns!

Name:

Position:

Club:

Value:

Sale Value:

PPM:

Work Permit:

Name: Keisuke Honda

Position: AMC/MC

Club: CSKA Moscow

Value: 11.25M

Sale Value: ???

Work Permit: Yes

Name: Alexandr Kerzakhov

Position: ST

Club: Zenit

Value: 10.75

Sale Value: ???

Work Permit: Yes

Name: Diego Lugano

Position: DC

Club: PSG

Value: 2.5

Sale Value: ???

Work Permit: No

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Question: does anyone know if these other mental attributes can be trained through tutoring?
no they are not, only determination, hidden personality attributes and ppm's (the last one only if you pick the first option when assigning the mentor) are affected by tutoring

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How up to date is the artical? I've always wondered why this never get's more attention from the forums, maybe the gains aren't that great?

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Name: James 'Perchinho, Perchenbauer, Perchinand, Mansfield Maldini' Perch :brock:

Position: DM/RB (CB)

Club: Newcastle United

Value: £2-3M

Sale Value: Reasonably cheap, near his value I'd imagine

PPM: ?

Work Permit: No

Worked wonders tutoring a couple of player in my first season.

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Name: Radja Nainggolan (probably one of the best tutor in the game for defensive minded midfielders)

Determination: 20

Position: DM, CM

Club: Cagliari

Value: €8M

Sale Value: ?

PPM: Marks Opponents Tightly, Tries To Play Way Out Of trouble, Dives Into Tackles

Work Permit: No

Name: Owen Hargreaves

Determination: 19

Position: DM, CM

Club: Free Agent

PPM: Plays Short Simple Passes

Work Permit: No

Name: Eduardo

Determination: 19

Position: ST

Club: Shakhtar

Value: €7.5M

Sale Value: ?

PPM: Moves Into Channels, Places Shots, Tries First Time Shots

Work Permit: No

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Good to know. Especially the part about ppm's.

I thought it was the second option to leatn ppm's?

have I been selecting the wrong option then, this is my first fm I have really tried to develop youth

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Name: Massimo Ambrosini

Position: CM(Natural)/DM(Accomplished)

Club:AC Milan

Value: 275K

Sale Value: Unknown. Probably very low but getting him to leave Milan will be the challenge

PPM: Marks Opponents Tightly & Dives into Tackles.

Work Permit: Not needed

18 Determination

16 Team Work

14 Decisions

16 Work Rate

Personality - Leader.

Also comes with very good hidden attributes.

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Jari Litmanen should be good at this. Excellent mental attributes and his Personality is Leader.

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Name: Iliasu Shilla

Position: DC (competent at LB)

Club: Impuls

Value: 300k

Sale Value: about the same, can be signed for free after 1 season.

PPM: None

Work Permit: yes

18 Determination and his personality is model citizen, so the perfect tutor.

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Name: Raul

Position: ST (competent at AMC)

Club: Al-Sadd Sports Club

Value: 500k

Sale Value: Unknown, Contract Ends 30.6.13

PPM: Moves Into Channels, Places Shots, Curls Ball, Comes Deep To Get The Ball, Likes To Lob The Keeper

Work Permit: Not Required

Just like last year the old Spanish genius has all the stats and PPM's to make him possibly the best tutor on the game. Just wish he'd sign for my Newcastle side... Anyone been able to pry him away from Al-Sadd yet?

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Lorik CANA for me. Born leader. Always sign CANA and Owen HARGREAVES for first couple of seasons to tutor my young midfield brigade.

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I thought it was the second option to leatn ppm's?

have I been selecting the wrong option then, this is my first fm I have really tried to develop youth

As far as I know, this is correct. The second option learns ppms, the first is personality development.

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As far as I know, this is correct. The second option learns ppms, the first is personality development.
on fm12 the secound option (take under wing and mentor of the pitch) only did mental attributes while the first option (help improve his game) did both ppms and mental

I would assume its exactly the same thing on fm13 (and my limited experiance with this side of fm13 seams to suggest that to be the case)

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i found Jelle Vossen to be a great tutor for my strikers, has great mental & technical attributes (don't know by heart, at work atm)

he doesn't cost that much either

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i found Jelle Vossen to be a great tutor for my strikers, has great mental & technical attributes (don't know by heart, at work atm)

he doesn't cost that much either

I agree. Also, since he is pretty much at or near his prime, he can do a good job in the Prem leading the line.

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The two best I have are Oleg Gusev (Dyanmo Kyiv) and lliasu Shilla (impuls).

Shilla is better, only because you can get him free at end of first season.

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Someone I've got who is a pretty decent tutor is Lauri Dalle Valle, mostly because his Determination is 18, which is great if you're looking to give a young fwd a boost of determination.

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The first option is PPMs + personality traits. The second option is just personality.

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I'm proposing a new format, to include relevant information. WP is mostly relevant for England, and for value/sale value I generally just pick up however is available for free after their contracts have expired and give them a low wage with massive appearance-bonuses.

Also, for tutoring the things you should look at is mentality, media handling and determination. PPMs can be a nice add-on, but if the player has a negative mentality you risk ruining the development of the player being tutored. Anything else (OP mentions work rate and such) does not really matter for the tutoring. The best mentalities are Model Citizen, Model Professional, Perfectionist, Professional, Driven, Ambitious, etc. For media handling: Evasive, unflappable, reserved. Look at this excellent thread for reference to what they mean: Personality/MH-guide

Name: Ivica Olic

Position: SC (AMC, AML, ML)

Mentality: Professional

Media Handling Evasive

Determination 20

PPM: Moves into channels, Likes to round keeper, Does not dive into tackles.

Name: Elvis Abbruscato

Position: SC

Mentality: Professional

Media Handling Evasive, Unflappable

Determination 16

PPM: Moves into channels, Knocks ball past opponent, Cuts inside, Likes to switch ball to other flank.

Name: Rocco Placentino

Position: M/AM L (SC)

Mentality: Model Professional

Media Handling Media friendly

Determination 20

PPM: -

Name: Carlos Gurpegi

Position: DMC-D/M C (AMC, DR, WBr, MR)

Mentality: Determined

Media Handling Outspoken

Determination 18

PPM: Play short simple passes, Marks opponents tightly

Additional comment: He is outspoken, which means negative value in controversy and sportsmanship, but his other traits far outweigh this. Can also be used to improve outspoken youngsters that refuse tutoring from more level headed players.

Name: Carmine Coppola

Position: DM/M C (MR)

Mentality: Perfectionist

Media Handling Reserved

Determination 20

PPM: Shoots with power, Marks opponents tightly

Name: Timmy Simons

Position: DM/M C (DC,DR,WBr)

Mentality: Model Professional

Media Handling Evasive, Unflappable

Determination 18

PPM: -

Name: Walter Montillo

Position: M/AM C (M/AM R/L, SC)

Mentality: Model Professional

Media Handling Reserved

Determination 18

PPM: Tries Killer Balls, Shoots from distance, Cuts inside.

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Name: Iliasu Shilla

Position: DC (competent at LB)

Club: Impuls

Value: 300k

Sale Value: about the same, can be signed for free after 1 season.

PPM: None

Work Permit: yes

18 Determination and his personality is model citizen, so the perfect tutor.

Has anyone in England been able to acquire a work permit for this guy btw? Always fails for me :(

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Name: Phil Neville

Position: DLR DM MC

Club: Everton

Value:

Sale Value: Please check scout report

PPM:

Work Permit: not required

Name: Gökhan Inler

Position: DM MC

Club: Napoli?

Value:

Sale Value: ard 20M. Please check scout report.

PPM:

Work Permit: not required

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Has anyone in England been able to acquire a work permit for this guy btw? Always fails for me :(

Nope, but that doesn't stop him joining and mentoring.

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Nope, but that doesn't stop him joining and mentoring.

How can he join without a work permit?

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How can he join without a work permit?

Get a feeder club. Then stick him in the reserves and get him to mentor your players.

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Have to say on the 13.3 patch Robin Van Persie turns out to be an immense mentor. So much so that i have allowed him to overstay his welcome by an extra year on his bumper contract just to bring my youngsters along, The improvements are almost instant !

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