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7 hours ago, phd_angel said:

@Smurf - The laptop you recommended above has an AMD Radeon processor. Do you have any preference between AMD and GeForce, at the same level?... Thanks

No preference. As long as it works for FM.

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 I'm saving up for a new desktop/laptop not decided yet.  Hoping to get one that will last the next 3-4 editions of FM after FM19. I would use it for general use such as listening to music (I have quite a large iTunes library), Word, Excel, Publisher, watch/download videos and the odd bit of video editing   well as FM. I usually play FM with a large database and as many leagues running as I can get away with, 3d match engine etc.

Budget is around £1,500. Should have enough by Christmas. Barside and Smurf have already recommended this https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-15.6-fhd-wv-tn-120hz-i7-8750h-8g-256gb-sata-ssd-1tb-hdd-gtx1060-fx504gm-en150t/version.asp also considering going to PC Specialist.

I want to make sure whatever I get is right, because I probably won’t be able to afford my next machine for around 5 years.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

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@Smurf

Hi mate, just wondering if you've heard of the Shadow service and if so would you think it’s worthwhile solution for people wanting a powerful pc to play FM or games in general but can’t afford to spend 2k on a powerful gaming rig?  Apparently it costs to £27 per month £324 per year to rent the shadow system which can stream games back to a bog standard pc proving you have 15mb/S internet connection 

https://shadow.tech/usen?gclid=CjwKCAjwio3dBRAqEiwAHWsNVQFojhf9J4VvuIkAOzbhdgDxyJaBUMF-Bv4dYbGCGMvPL1v8zINBNRoCRUsQAvD_BwE

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Never heard of it. Read a few reviews. Try it if you want.

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3 hours ago, Cueboy_3143 said:

 I'm saving up for a new desktop/laptop not decided yet.  Hoping to get one that will last the next 3-4 editions of FM after FM19. I would use it for general use such as listening to music (I have quite a large iTunes library), Word, Excel, Publisher, watch/download videos and the odd bit of video editing   well as FM. I usually play FM with a large database and as many leagues running as I can get away with, 3d match engine etc.

Budget is around £1,500. Should have enough by Christmas. Barside and Smurf have already recommended this https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-15.6-fhd-wv-tn-120hz-i7-8750h-8g-256gb-sata-ssd-1tb-hdd-gtx1060-fx504gm-en150t/version.asp also considering going to PC Specialist.

I want to make sure whatever I get is right, because I probably won’t be able to afford my next machine for around 5 years.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

Budget of 1500 defo pc specialist. Not at home right now but can take a look later.

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Budget of 1500 defo pc specialist. Not at home right now but can take a look later.

Would be great if you would. I've had a few go's on it, but I don't really know what I'm doing with the specs

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Never heard of it. Read a few reviews. Try it if you want.

It’s got decent reviews it plays games such as PUBG ok, Iv never heard of it and don’t know anyone that’s tried it apart From the gaming people who have reviewed it.   It’s worth trying for a one off payment of £27 for 1 months membership so may look into it.

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After my wife has managed to break every laptop she gets, we're down to just using the one now.  Not so good when we both need to work, so looking to finally use the space after doing up the office to get a proper desktop again after years away from them.

I've also decided that I really want to test just how much I hate myself, and how little I can follow instructions by building my own desktop if possible.  I've looked a lot of the websites that do that for you, but...meh.  I think I can get cheaper just by sourcing the parts, and I expect I'll end up with a better sense of achievement, if I don't kill myself with electricity first.

So, those that have done this, what's the best way to approach? There's hundreds of tutorials online for the actual build, so that part's fine, but where's the best place to shop for components?  Any particular things to watch out for?  Reading decent things about the Ryzen chips, especially appealing given they'll be cheaper than anything comparable from Intel.

In terms of spec, the laptop I've got has a poor i5-6200U chip in it, so hardly mind-blowing.  Would like a good upgrade on that.  Not that bothered at the moment about supercharging the graphics options given I can upgrade that later.  Hard-drives I can skimp on, although an SSD and proper HD combo would be nice, not essential though.

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SDD is much better for running games right? But far more expensive.

So you get a lappy with a combination of the two, but the SDD is much smaller. 

You have the option to load FM onto that I assume, and for that application you will get a far better performance?

Why include both types in one pc?

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19 minutes ago, gechal said:

SDD is much better for running games right? But far more expensive.

So you get a lappy with a combination of the two, but the SDD is much smaller. 

You have the option to load FM onto that I assume, and for that application you will get a far better performance?

Why include both types in one pc?

SSDs always used to have a shelf life, not sure if that's still the case now.  Wouldn't want to have everything on it to avoid hammering it.  Critical applications on the much smaller SSD, everything that doesn't require the extra speed boost on the much larger (and cheaper) hard drive.

But none of that is set in stone, just an example.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/ is a good starting point for sourcing components.

As for Ryzen cpu’s, they’re a solid option at their price point but for FM they can’t be recommended over Intel cpu’s unless like me you are play large saves with full detail processing across all competitions.

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46 minutes ago, forameuss said:

SSDs always used to have a shelf life, not sure if that's still the case now.  Wouldn't want to have everything on it to avoid hammering it.  Critical applications on the much smaller SSD, everything that doesn't require the extra speed boost on the much larger (and cheaper) hard drive.

But none of that is set in stone, just an example.

They do but It's much longer than what people think and the only way you would really lesson the life of one is to constantly write data to it until its full, then delete it all and continue to do this over and over a couple of 1000 times before it would die. But like the vast majority of people I don't expect you to use one like this so the lifespan is many years.

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56 minutes ago, Barside said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/ is a good starting point for sourcing components.

As for Ryzen cpu’s, they’re a solid option at their price point but for FM they can’t be recommended over Intel cpu’s unless like me you are play large saves with full detail processing across all competitions.

At the moment I don't really play FM of any kind :p expect that'll change with FM19.  And to be honest, I'm not really someone who quibbles over performance.  Usually it just is what it is.  Going purely by benchmarks, it'll perform way better than what I have now anyway.

Taking a look at partpicker, put something together that comes to around £500 on amazon.  Will keep looking and see whether I can skimp anymore.  Will post here when I get something together so everyone can point out the mistakes I've made.

16 minutes ago, SortitoutsiVP said:

They do but It's much longer than what people think and the only way you would really lesson the life of one is to constantly write data to it until its full, then delete it all and continue to do this over and over a couple of 1000 times before it would die. But like the vast majority of people I don't expect you to use one like this so the lifespan is many years.

Yeah, expected it'd be something like this.  May stick with just the SSD for now then, if I need the extra space (unlikely) then put in a bog-standard HD too.

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With 8GB of ddr4 ram how many leagues do you think I can run? 

 

Main priority is BPL, La liga Bundesliga and Serie A

 

Preffered would be the above and ligue 1 liga NOS and eredivise and championship although I wouldn't mind sacrificing some of these leagues mentioned right now.

 

 

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Just ordered this from PCS:

Overclocked CPU	Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Six Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)	32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk	3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2500MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Cannot wait to open up FM19 on full leagues and watch it fly through the seasons. Also looking forward to playing Battlefield on a brand new gsync 32" predator monitor. 

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2 hours ago, mightypvfc said:

Just ordered this from PCS:


Overclocked CPU	Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Six Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)	32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk	3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2500MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Cannot wait to open up FM19 on full leagues and watch it fly through the seasons. Also looking forward to playing Battlefield on a brand new gsync 32" predator monitor. 

How much?

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1 hour ago, Cueboy_3143 said:

How much?

£3K inc. VAT. Got my current one from PCS in 2011 for just over £1500. Still going strong and I've only upgraded the graphics card. 

I'd recommend these guys.

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Ended up ordering this from save on laptops 

Acer Aspire 7 A715-71G-53HF
Intel Core i5-7300HQ Quad Core Processor | 15.6" Full HD IPS Screen | Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit | 8GB DDR4 RAM | 128GB M.2 SSD + 1000GB HDD | Dedicated GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Graphics | USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth | NX.GP8EK.002

as I stated in another post gaming wise I'll only be playing fm so should more then suffice 

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1 hour ago, mightypvfc said:

£3K inc. VAT. Got my current one from PCS in 2011 for just over £1500. Still going strong and I've only upgraded the graphics card. 

I'd recommend these guys.

Yeah I'm looking at going to PC Specialist. Not sure if you've seen my post above, but my budget is £1500

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On 17/09/2018 at 11:20, Smurf said:

Thanks Smurf.

I ended up finding these 2 as well, if I'm willing to spend a little abit more money.

 https://www.box.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.003-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-57YT_2156569.html

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2245212.html

I don't use alot of storage as its mainly only fm and sometimes microsoft office for any courses I do through work, so the Acer with just the ssd storage looks good, after painstakingly reading up on ssd's and the hard drives, as want to make the right choice.

For you or anyone else would the Acer be decent?

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They're all the same spec - except for the hard drives. Whichever you want.

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