whilewolf Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Classic and Challenge Modes I was one of the people complaining about press conferences, media interaction and the general length of time a season takes to play. While Classic mode looks like it removes a lot of the things I didn’t like it also looks like it removes things I was interested in like team talks and individual training. I'm not sure I'm thrilled by it. The challenges sound fun though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Consumer Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 http://downloads.sega.com/sigames/web/images/assets/games/screens/fm13/full/AFC%20Wimbledon_%20Training-3.png Bad. This is bad... EDIT: Otherwise i'm okay with the news. Any new FM is a great FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clausdk Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Looks F....ing beautiful SI!!!! Looking foreward to getting my christmas with the family ruined, because i'm yet again addicted to the best game in the world. And there is really some cool new features, GOOD JOB SI!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendeth Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Ta, see you in 2014. You may be gone a while, I can't see any reason for them to abandon Steam in the near-future, especially as they seem to be doing exactly the opposite this year. http://downloads.sega.com/sigames/web/images/assets/games/screens/fm13/full/AFC%20Wimbledon_%20Training-3.pngBad. This is bad... EDIT: Otherwise i'm okay with the news. Any new FM is a great FM. I'm not too bothered about the first three, just allows people more control and flexibility over the game they want to play. However if (and it's a very big if because obviously there's no confirmation yet) international management has to be 'unlocked' or earned through a career, I'd be very disappointed. Sometimes it's quite fun just to load a game as a random country and see how you can do. Fingers crossed that's just a placeholder or doesn't apply to the 'normal' FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael F Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Possibly been mentioned, but 'will be released before Xmas'. Is that what they always say or is it going to be really late this year? What they always say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Someone may have cleared this up earlier in the thread, but I haven't the time to scour through it. Briefly: Can anyone explain what all this 'Unlockables' malarkey is? Hopefully, it's an option to play with them, rather than it being compulsory... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 They always say it. That's ok then, I had a feeling it was the first patch when they always said 'before Xmas'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdorf Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I don't know. It looks like more-or-less the same game as 2012 but with a different graphical interface. I won't get it until next year as there will no doubt be bugs that need sorting out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawlore Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Information is at 2:32 in the video. The Unlockables is an option in Classic FM (ie, not the main career game), where people can purchase/unlock those options to change those options in their game (ie, removing transfer windows, sacking etc.). Not compulsory by any stretch of the imagination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo manager Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It frustrates me to see so many people turn their backs on FM just because of steam. For me it has been a harmless little program that I only use for FM and works like I don't even know it's there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It frustrates me to see so many people turn their backs on FM just because of steam. For me it has been a harmless little program that I only use for FM and works like I don't even know it's there. Not quite. I can't play a game I bought two years ago, for instance (fm11).but this is not a conversation to have here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazkul Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Someone may have cleared this up earlier in the thread, but I haven't the time to scour through it. Briefly: Can anyone explain what all this 'Unlockables' malarkey is? Hopefully, it's an option to play with them, rather than it being compulsory... They are an option that you can play with in the classic modes and they arn't compulsory (and you certainly dont need to buy them as the picture posted even shows them saying you can unlock them just by playing and meeting certain criteria - such as 10 years in the job for unsackable) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 http://downloads.sega.com/sigames/web/images/assets/games/screens/fm13/full/AFC%20Wimbledon_%20Training-3.pngBad. This is bad... EDIT: Otherwise i'm okay with the news. Any new FM is a great FM. Who in their right mind spend money on this? Unbelievable... edit: Phew, now I saw that it can be done by playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Please no turning this thread into a Steam argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Alright, I'll be the one to ask:will we be able to tell if a screen is fmc or career? Otherwise things like records, community challenges, stories, etc will be compromised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelbsy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 So what about individual training in classic mode? If I wanted to train a player's attribute (like finishing), I wouldn't be able to do so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Please no turning this thread into a Steam argument.that's why I said what I said. At no point I tried to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Looks like there may be a manager in the technical area for the first time on FM... Or might just be the physio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This may be controversial, but I'd rather SI to concentrate on improving other aspects of FM - like the Match Engine, AI development & scouting system etc. (To be fair, it looks like they've improved the aforementioned aspects) - rather than creating a new concept such as this 'Unlockables' feature. Of course, that's just my opinion. I'm sure many FM'ers will be excited by this 'Unlockables' feature. Something new. Something to keep people interested, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This may be controversial, but I'd rather SI to concentrate on improving other aspects of FM - like the Match Engine, AI development & scouting system etc. (To be fair, it looks like they've improved the aforementioned aspects) - rather than creating a new concept such as this 'Unlockables' feature. Of course, that's just my opinion. I'm sure many FM'ers will be excited by this 'Unlockables' feature. Something new. Something to keep people interested, I suppose. Why can't they do both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Can people please refrain from linking unofficial sources via twitter about possible release dates. They will all be deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This may be controversial, but I'd rather SI to concentrate on improving other aspects of FM - like the Match Engine, AI development & scouting system etc. (To be fair, it looks like they've improved the aforementioned aspects) - rather than creating a new concept such as this 'Unlockables' feature. Of course, that's just my opinion. I'm sure many FM'ers will be excited by this 'Unlockables' feature. Something new. Something to keep people interested, I suppose. It's not controversial. 99percent of people who have followed and loved the series for 20 years want exactly that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This may be controversial, but I'd rather SI to concentrate on improving other aspects of FM - like the Match Engine, AI development & scouting system etc. (To be fair, it looks like they've improved the aforementioned aspects) - rather than creating a new concept such as this 'Unlockables' feature. Of course, that's just my opinion. I'm sure many FM'ers will be excited by this 'Unlockables' feature. Something new. Something to keep people interested, I suppose. It's not controversial. 99percent of people who have followed and loved the series for 20 years want exactly that. But as Miles in the video and the opening post show, SI have managed to develop both. So where is the issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymatti Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Why can't they do both? let's just hope they can do both "well" FM2012 is not even a finished game with the latest patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Im loving the control over who does what at the club, that looks like a briliant addition! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelbsy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Im loving the control over who does what at the club, that looks like a briliant addition! Can you have the option to who does what in classic mode? Or are things greyed out by default and compulsory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twellman24 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It's not about 'being able' to do both. It's a little not losing hard core fans by dropping resources on our side to appeal to fifa and 30 minutes per day players. Yes, it's easy to say that they're doing both well, but we'll just have to see. And again, I'll say the same: I'm just debating. No bashing, not upset, nothing. Just chatting about the new game comí up. I hope my opinion is taken as just that and not an attempt to stir things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 let's just hope they can do both "well" FM2012 is not even a finished game with the latest patch No games are finished, they all get released when they are at a stage of the main bugs being eliminated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelbsy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Like what happens if the director does contract negotiations, and does something stupid like offer a player **** loads a week, where in theory if you were doing the negotiations, it be a lot less? Similar to if you asked board to do a deal for you, they'd spend like 30 million too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Can you have the option to who does what in classic mode? Or are things greyed out by default and compulsory? I dont think anyone can answer that yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Like what happens if the director does contract negotiations, and does something stupid like offer a player **** loads a week, where in theory if you were doing the negotiations, it be a lot less? Similar to if you asked board to do a deal for you, they'd spend like 30 million too much. Hence why i have never wanted, or will ever use a DoF in game lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It's not about 'being able' to do both. It's a little not losing hard core fans by dropping resources on our side to appeal to fifa and 30 minutes per day players. Yes, it's easy to say that they're doing both well, but we'll just have to see. And again, I'll say the same: I'm just debating. No bashing, not upset, nothing. Just chatting about the new game comí up. I hope my opinion is taken as just that and not an attempt to stir things up. SI hired a bunch of new people recently, they have more resources to play with than ever before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymatti Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 No games are finished, they all get released when they are at a stage of the main bugs being eliminated. no but by the time the next version of the game comes out you would expect the previous version to as close to finished as can get I'm playing a game now in 2nd division of Spain , beat Real Madrid 8-3 in Quarter finals , and beat Barcelona 3-1 in the Semi's as AI put reserves , this bug was in game from beginning and surely should have been sorted by now I'm just a little grumpy as playing fm at the moment and it kind takes any satisfaction away from getting to a cup final with a lower team when you smash 2 of the worlds best teams on the way anyway back to fm13 and lets hope it be good , looking forward to seeing full list of features Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelbsy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Lol. Everyone asking questions to which no ****er has a clue about yet! That's the downfall to classic mode if that's the case. I've had players demanding like 90k a week, but managed to get it down to around 60k for example. Don't wanna have loads of players on pathetic wages against your will. Should be a choice option. Maybe it is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It's not about 'being able' to do both. It's a little not losing hard core fans by dropping resources on our side to appeal to fifa and 30 minutes per day players. Yes, it's easy to say that they're doing both well, but we'll just have to see. And again, I'll say the same: I'm just debating. No bashing, not upset, nothing. Just chatting about the new game comí up. I hope my opinion is taken as just that and not an attempt to stir things up. Well there has been enough demand for it to be worthwhile from their perspective. I wont ever use it, but given how many people want it, i can see why its a good addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooter7th Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 so excited , a little bit of wee came out great to see some changes and some improvements - for me the best will be in network games looking forward to the demo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Why not just make features optional though? I'd be elated if I never had to see an FM press conference ever again but I'm not willing to give up half the game just for that. Why does it have to be completely watered down vs every feature enabled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternhawk2 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Can anyone help me? I try going onto the FM website but before footballmanager.com it has a mobile. and doesn't give me any options on what to do other than watch the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelbsy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Look on the bright side. At least there won't be any complains like FM2012 in regards to ****** team talks and responses etc Speaking of which. When did team-talks come into effect? Can't remember which version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibees2 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The more I read about it the less confused i'm getting... You can only hire a director of football? You can't be one yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epndkempot Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 hey... the price is higher than FM 2012 http://eu.download-store.sega.com/shop/football-manager-2013 it cost €49.99 I wonder if the price is similar for all country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Again no 64 bit version? I'm hoping that they will add something that is going to convince me in the following weeks, like dynamic league reputation did for example. I feel that the main new features are all designed for casual gamers. That unlockable content sounds like Fifa for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIK Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 SI really need to clarify things with this microtransaction ********, and that's fast! I mean, the option to remove work permits should be included in the editor. It's not something you should have to pay extra for. For example. Will this "feature" limit the editor for career games? Will this "feature" be the end of awesome third party tools like FMRTE in career mode? If the answer is yes for one of these question i don't think i'll buy the game at all this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOG Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It looks like there's been a strong focus on improving and refining the fundamentals of the game... that's great, particularly the improvements regarding ME player movement and decision-making. No mention of AI squad development and changes to the reputation system yet, but hopefully there's been some progress in this area as well. As far as Football Manager Classic goes, I think selling cheat modes seems a little incongruous with the general spirit of FM... but if it brings in more casual fans and money to be invested in improving the true game for FM obsessives, I don't have a problem with it. I mean, the option to remove work permits should be included in the editor. It's not something you should have to pay extra for. For example. The editor has only ever been for editing the database. It's never changed how the actual game modules have functioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 SI really need to clarify things with this microtransaction ********, and that's fast!I mean, the option to remove work permits should be included in the editor. It's not something you should have to pay extra for. For example. Will this "feature" limit the editor for career games? Will this "feature" be the end of awesome third party tools like FMRTE in career mode? If the answer is yes for one of these question i don't think i'll buy the game at all this year. But you're happy to pay for a third party editor? The info released so far is: microtransactions are for FMC mode only all unlocks such as this are also unlockable through gameplay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beegees Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Do, please, probably in the English version include Russian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIK Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 But you're happy to pay for a third party editor?The info released so far is: microtransactions are for FMC mode only all unlocks such as this are also unlockable through gameplay Well, yes. It offers something that enhance the gaming experience. The absolutely best option would be a real time/save game editor that's created and supported by SI themselves. Without the use of microtransactions, which are more evil than the devil itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I'm pumped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
london boy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Looking forward to this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehemann Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Is this version having a whole new match engine? Not just 3d graphics looking pretty but the actual engine that calculates the game. I read a post a while ago saying FM13 would probably introduce that to us. Does it or is it just 3d? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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