Hazza22299 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Introduction First of all, I would like to state that this is an edit of the fantastic "Grid System Tactics" tactic made by the now 'retired' author Tactikzz. I'd also like to thank Medmax massively, he has contributed INCREDIBLY to the development of this tactic and deserves his own crediting in the OP (Look at his results below). Also massive credit to W4NKER and cragswfc (goals goals goals and more goals) who found weaknesses in the match engine. The main reason I decided to edit the grid system tactic was that it already contained most of the exploits within the tactic. Here is the List of Match Engine Exploits if you'd like to see for yourself. This is a "classic" tactic. Also credit to Hectorotoro1234 for some screenshots. The Formation This 4-1-2-3 formation with 3 central strikers is part of the list of exploits and it works because the two wider strikers man mark the full backs and the central defenders can't handle so many strikers. The Corner Exploit The infamous corner tactic has been included in this tactic, basically your central striker will score 20+ goals a season just from corners especially if his Anticipation, Heading and Jumping attributes are good. Although this is not vital to the tactic, I recommend you leave the corner settings how they are but if you prefer more realism or are just plain against the corner exploit, feel free to remove it. Tactical Notes 1) Your central striker, with the help of the striker settings on 'goals goals goals and more goals' by craigswfc, will be your main source of goals, he can score up to 130 goals in a single season. Important attributes in order are Off the Ball, Pace, Finishing (Obviously), Dribbling, Composure, Anticipation, Jumping, Heading. There is no striker with great scores in all of those attributes so prioritise the earlier attributes that I have given. 2) Do not change the wide strikers to wingers, this completely destroys one of the main elements of this tactic, try to train the wingers to strikers or just sell them if they aren't great. This is the only problem with this tactic. 3) Your central midfielders will need good mental attributes in Creativity, Teamwork and Work Rate. Bravery is also important. They will need good Passing and Technique and as a bonus Long Shots. Even Henderson plays well in this role! 4) If the opposition instructions aren't already on then make sure the 2 wide midfielders are on "Show to Weaker Foot", nothing else. 5) Match Preparation: Teamwork - Very High until fluid then Defensive Positioning - Average Pitch size: Standard, although it doesn't make much difference. 6) Defenders, especially full backs will need Pace, particularly if you don't have a good attack. Anticipation, concentration and positioning for centre backs. 7) I recommend you use this ParkThePlane 4-3-1-2 v2 - Downloads - Football Manager 2012 Tactics, Wonderkids & Cheats tactic as a backup to my one. It's very defensive and useful if you're playing big teams or when you want to see out a game. Use this if you concede a lot. 8) Before you start go to 'Tactics' and then 'Set Pieces' and both of your CMs to where it says "Playmaker" and your middle striker to where it says "Target Man". 9) For version 2, do the following: Player Instructions/Select the Wide Strikers/Set marking to specific and set them like so: STCR-DL and STCR-DR. It may already be set for you. Version 1 link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=6774 Version 2 link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=6816 There has been a lot of confusion with the wide striker player instructions. I have reviewed and edited them. The changes are in version 2. Re-download the version 2 link for the changes. If the tactic is fine and you're not conceding many goals then untick marking on the wide strikers. (For version 2). Training: I use a training schedule called "Furious Training", it can be found on the Sports Interactive Forums: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/279751-Training-The-Furious-Way?highlight=training+furious. Team Talks: Pre-Match: Against every single opponent : Aggressive- I expect a win No individual team talk to any player regardless of whether they react negatively or are unresponsive Half time: Unless 5+ goals clear (5-0/6-1/8-3) then selecPre-Match: Against every single opponent : Aggressive- I expect a win No individual team talk to any player regardless of whether they react negatively or are unresponsive Half time: Unless 5+ goals clear (5-0/6-1/8-3) then select Aggressive---> Not happy with performance If you are 5+ goals clear then select assistant to take the team talk If a player with a half time rating above 7.2 reacts negatively or is unresponsive then passionately tell him you are happy with his performance If a player with a half time rating below 7.2 reacts negatively or is unresponsive then passionately tell him that you have faith in him Full time: Win: Passionately Well done/Happy with performance Draw/Lose: Aggressively: Not happy with performance *Team meetings as soon as you lose a game or draw having played badly in order to stop a negative run of results. I would be very grateful for any feedback so please rate and leave a comment/post some screenshots if it has helped you, thanks! Results I sincerely apologise for the lack of response on this website, I'd completely forgot I posted it here! I will try to be as active as possible and I hope to upload my images as soon as i can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreB Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Do you have any version 2 of this tactic I used this version you posted and it is amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 AMAZING tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 link is dead... can someone please upload a new one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Best tactic out there. Great defensively and bucket load of goals Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2008 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Does this tactic work over multiple seasons or does the rerank blunt its effectiveness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najt Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Hazza22299 Central mids need tackling and marking? Or they more creative? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 @Omarm88 Do you use both playmaker and target man? And by that I dont just mean having it ticked, do you actually drag the players into the lists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 @jimmyrh94 Yeah I bought Hamsik as my playmaker and dragged him in set pieces as play maker. My target man is Hernandez. He scored almost 90 goals. Rooney played on the right CF role and he scored loads aswell. I am sure if I played Rooney as target man he would have been unstoppable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Central mids need tackling and marking? Or they more creative? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- My centre mids were Hamsik and Anderson and they played excellent. I think creative mids suits better because they play so many killer passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najt Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 omarm88 Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13xForever Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The stupid rerank does effect the tactic. Smashed A.Madrid 5-0 at home and AC Milan 5-0 away in champions league. Yet it can sometimes be ineffective. playing as Newcastle. Will give it more time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Hi Jimmyrh94, do i have to tic the playmaker in Team instructions? Iam starting a new save with LFC tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 @jimmyrh94Yeah I bought Hamsik as my playmaker and dragged him in set pieces as play maker. My target man is Hernandez. He scored almost 90 goals. Rooney played on the right CF role and he scored loads aswell. I am sure if I played Rooney as target man he would have been unstoppable. But did you tick target man in team insturtions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespios Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi cragswfc, have you tryed this tactic? I havent been playing for a while. but i did start a new save yesterday. Do you think this tactic will work with LFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 But did you tick target man in team insturtions? check your pm mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansah Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Do you get better results with this one or with the one from Tactikzz btw ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Do you get better results with this one or with the one from Tactikzz btw ? With this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najt Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 PequenoGenio Can you show your team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13xForever Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just as dirty as Grid! Thought i would post as not much up. Used this 75% of time second season rest i used my decent 442 as i have wingers. Won the league buy 26 points 121 goals. 29 let in. Obv had Cisse and Ba upfront. Obertan/Cassano both helped out upfront but were not really suited so i reckon more goals/assists to come. Would recommend strikers with good first touch with the stats stated above The corner routine i might switch Taylor rather then Cisse to get some dirty goals. Looks better. Need to go have a shower now after all this dirty exsploiting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Just as dirty as Grid! Thought i would post as not much up. Used this 75% of time second season rest i used my decent 442 as i have wingers. Won the league buy 26 points 121 goals. 29 let in. Obv had Cisse and Ba upfront. Obertan/Cassano both helped out upfront but were not really suited so i reckon more goals/assists to come. Would recommend strikers with good first touch with the stats stated above The corner routine i might switch Taylor rather then Cisse to get some dirty goals. Looks better. Need to go have a shower now after all this dirty exsploiting. do you use target man and playmaker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13xForever Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yep. Target man Cisse and playmaker Sigurroson. 20 assists from Sigurroson in Prem. It helps but i reckon if your turn playmaker off you could live without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Most of the discussion and ideas for this are on FM-Base. Just to let you know guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irabbit Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 How can i post SS from Ipad ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just as dirty as Grid! [...] Why is Grid a dirty tactic? It hasn't been made with exploting in mind, if I am correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son_Of_William Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 This tactic doesnt work for me. 6th in the league. 18 games in 8 wins - 3 draws - 7 loses Not changed anything. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Sorry about the lack of response, download the latest version it's much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Brilliant results! Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 link is dead... can someone please upload a new one? Done. I recommend you download Version 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Fantastic! What year was that in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 since I was slightly curious about how this tactic would work I decided to try it for parts of a friendly vs hearts of oak (a rather small team from ghana), anyway I feel its very much the same old same old, very attacking, defense is way to static, the play is a bit to rushed and the transition play is sub par (my team was clearing the ball away in panic on many occasions, something I dont see often from them), im sure it would work if you want to score lots of goals and have suitable players, but its not really going to do much else if you want to improve it you should probably have a look at the defense and experiment with higher time wasting setings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 since I was slightly curious about how this tactic would work I decided to try it for parts of a friendly vs hearts of oak (a rather small team from ghana), anyway I feel its very much the same old same old, very attacking, defense is way to static, the play is a bit to rushed and the transition play is sub par (my team was clearing the ball away in panic on many occasions, something I dont see often from them), im sure it would work if you want to score lots of goals and have suitable players, but its not really going to do much else if you want to improve it you should probably have a look at the defense and experiment with higher time wasting setings Have you tested it for longer than part of a friendly? Anyway thanks for the feedback, I'll look into changing the time wasting settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The new downloadlink (for version 2) does not work Hazza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 The new downloadlink (for version 2) does not work Hazza. It should be fixed now, re-download. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quenta Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Yes sadness for this night. The link of v2 is broken. I'm playing the v1 with national hungarian team. Feedback soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.U.F.C....TSVR Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I have my own controlling tactic and saw pure dominance but figured I'd try this a few games to see what would happen. Incredible stuff! Well done to you guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 I have my own controlling tactic and saw pure dominance but figured I'd try this a few games to see what would happen. Incredible stuff! Well done to you guys! Thanks alot! Have you got any screenshots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry26 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 What is the best match prep ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 What is the best match prep ?? Match Preparation: Teamwork - Very High until fluid then Defensive Positioning - Average Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry26 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Match Preparation: Teamwork - Very High until fluid then Defensive Positioning - Average Thanks a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolborQ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 amazing tactic , i will upload score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolborQ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 yeah i uploaded... thx for tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 yeah i uploaded... thx for tactic Nice! What version did you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son_Of_William Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Cannot get the tactic going at all. May just have to delete and try another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolborQ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 last version 12.2.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 last version 12.2.2no he means which tactic Version 1 link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downl...o=file&id=6774 Version 2 link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downl...o=file&id=6816 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolborQ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 ah soryy , i use version 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 ah soryy , i use version 2 Oh ok good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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