deltablue Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You sure? Can't find any wiki mention of it but in his autobiography he talks of being given one of the youth sides for a tournament (which was won) in the late 70's, I think after being rejected for the main job in 77. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 As sure as I can be. Have checked Brian Clough's own legacy website http://www.brianclough.com/new_page_4.htm and there's no mention of it there either. I've also searched England U18, U19, U20 and U21 managers online without finding him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Real Zaragoza the latest team to ask after my services. Thanks, but no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Just dug out my copy of 'Walking on Water' (which I've had for ages and read a few times so I knew I wasn't imagining that bit being there). It's rather vague but mentioning him saying that they'd take anything they'd offer him, and being offered the chance to work with the youth team (doesn't say which), which was intended to be observational but him and Taylor much took over after being frustrated with the actual coach, Ken Burton, and the attitude of everyone being glad to reach the final when he gave them the belief to beat the fancied Russians, and giving it up after a year or so of 'making a point' but realizing it wasn't for them in the long term. So probably not 'official' manager then but still called upon by the FA to be involved and being able to still manage the side for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 I've taken the job with the obvious intention of putting myself in the shop window to take over when the current manager, Steve Bruce, decides he's had enough or gets sacked. He's just won the 2016 European Championship though, so might have to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Nice work getting a job on the International scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Thanks SRL88. The future for England doesn't look too bright, as despite the EC win, the U21 squad is very average. None of my current crop are rated as anything more than potentially average for the EPL. No stars, and no wonderkids either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron6632 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Great work on the quick return (and fantastic points total). Good luck with the U-21's, and with the two goal monsters you should be ok in the prem next seasonb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Just a shame neither of them is Under 21 eligible. Or English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 A solid but distinctly unspectacular start... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Simon Cox once again in fine scoring form. 7 goals from 7 games in the league, 12 goals from 9 in all competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 At last! The new guy isn't putting any money up yet, but we'll see what he does in the January window if we need to strengthen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 And the results from Aug-Oct 2016. Currently outside the relegation zone, but not comfortable as we've got Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool as our next 3. United are last season's champions, Liverpool the league leaders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 England U21s 2016 results. There are no competitive games as we are hosting the 2017 tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Cup competitions are going well. A win over 2 legs against Sheffield Wednesday will almost certainly guarantee European football for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 And the draw has been made for U21 Euro 2017 Can't believe the draw, very disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Seriously, how can you have Belgium, Croatia and Scotland in one group, Holland, Portugal, Spain and England in the other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yikes...Group B looks dangerous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 I've just had a look back at the U21s record in matches against the three teams. P6 W5 D1 L0. If we carry on the form, we'll emerge from a tough group as group winners. If we don't, I'll start to look a bit crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 November to January results with Derby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 And the league table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 We won't be going down this season! 40 points has been reached by sensationally beating Chelsea 2-1 at Pride Park, despite being reduced to 10 men (unfairly) after Simon Cox was given a second yellow for diving. Why would you dive when you're one on one with the keeper, ahead of the defender? It made no sense at the time, and I'll probably get a ban for what I'm about to say in the press conference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Things look much better in the Premiership this time around. Nice run in the League Cup but that is a stinker of a draw for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks SRL. Sadly we couldn't take advantage of being drawn against a Championship side, drawing the home leg 1-1, but getting battered 5-1 at Hillsborough, in what turned out to be our worst performance of the season. The win over Chelsea has taken us to what should be certain safety, but I'd like 1 more just to be certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeadHunta x Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 A very interesting thread! Like it a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks HeadHunta. It's been fun, apart from the last few games at Hartlepool, when I was just marking time at a club I wouldn't have been able to take any further. Derby has been great, we had a tough season after promotion, getting relegated on the last day, but have secured survival well before the season's end this time. The obvious disappointment is the failure to qualify for the League Cup Final, getting pasted by a Championship team, and gifting them European football. I've managed to add quality in goal in terms of Ross Turnbull in the January window, and he's starting to look like as good a signing as Simon Cox was at the other end of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Going well in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Good job for the first year in the Premiership. Interesting to see Newcastle so low but still qualified for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Newcastle qualified for Europe by beating Sheff Wed in the League Cup final, by the same 5-1 score that we lost our Semi. I had taken for granted that Spurs would beat Newcastle in the semis, therefore handing the place to Wednesday. I was wrong, and Newcastle will be delighted with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Results from February to April 2017 were decent enough, and with safety assured, we can start to plan for next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 The first player definitely leaving is Xisco, as he has requested (twice) a transfer. I accepted the request second time, and to be honest will accept any offer, as I can't have him disrupting my squad. If nobody bids, he'll be farmed to one of our feeder clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hate when players request transfers. Why sign the original deal then? If managers can be handed ultimatums, we should be allowed to do the same to players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 I don't get it, as he's in the team. Admittedly he hasn't been first choice all season, but has played regularly recently, especially whilst Cox has been injured, and would have featured heavily next season, but if he doesn't want it, then fine, he can make a mug of another manager. I've ruthlessly binned players who either aren't good enough, or don't want to play, in the past, and will do it again. He first became unhappy when out of the team for a couple of months, but I've always kept faith with players unless given a reason not to. It's got me 3 promotions, so it doesn't seem a bad ploy, and has got Derby to mid table, despite the slump after passing 40 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 And you can give a player an ultimatum. Have a meeting with him, and threaten him with the transfer list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 End of season table And the disappointing climax to the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Will be having a fair clearout of the squad this summer. Xisco is going, come what may, several others retiring, so will have freedom to bring in some good quality, hopefully we can push on and challenge this time round, but we need better luck on the injury front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Bizarrely, the qualifiers for Euro 2019 for the U21s start before the 2017 tournament has taken place. Here are the details of our group after the first game, away in Azerbaijan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 At least you have another year in the Premiership though . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Sticking around the Premiership will bring in more cash and let you grow the squad. Congrats! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Yep. My chairman has increased the wage budget from £350k to £800k per week. That should help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 England U21s go all the way to the final, but sadly come up short in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 And the summer transfers, it's been a busy one this time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 How many games do you have left in you at Derby if you are following his route? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think the squad for 2017/18 is the strongest Derby have had for some time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 How many games do you have left in you at Derby if you are following his route? 173 games done, 116 to go. So have two more seasons to win the league / qualify for Champions League, and that will leave me 1 season to get to a semi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm just hoping that the massive squad overhaul is worth it, and we can really kick on this season. The Premier League is becoming more unpredictable, with Fulham finishing as runners up, and Man Utd missing out on European football altogether. Whether that makes it more or less likely we have a chance to do this, I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Who's after Derby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 After Derby it's 32 games as boss at Brighton, followed by the infamous 7 game reign at Leeds, then on to Forest, assuming I'm still in the game by then. I'm not ending the save if I fail though, will just take whatever I fancy when the time comes. This season is the real test. We need to make the top 4, get in the Champions League, and try and get that Semi Final ticked off. Then need to actually win the Premiership. Interesting times ahead either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernpilgrim Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Brighton have gone from 6th in the Championship, and a playoff place in 2015/16 to 20th and a relegation scrap in 2016/17. I know I'm only there for 32 games, and don't have to achieve anything, but getting them promoted would be a great addition to my CV and career thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 If you don't win the league soon, will you be sticking to 'number of games' or still try and get his trophies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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