el sid Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 he scored the 3-2 today? Didn't word it properly. Take out his goals from the FT score, and the result of the match/tie doesn't change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 also got the all important pre-assist after a tricky challenge for the last goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I know its true but too harsh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 also got the all important pre-assist after a tricky challenge for the last goal Utter phenomenon and some people still think Spain wins stuff because of Xavi, Iniesta and Silva Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Sounds harsh yeah, but I didn't mean it as an attack on him. Just something I've kept track of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 22, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2012 Hazard. He's a bit good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm reserving judgement on Hazard until we play a proper team, like say Newcastle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I don't know. Reading played as a decent league side today for a newly promoted team. Our attack is good specially with Mata and Hazard who are all over the place. Also today goals against us were not big mistakes. First was simply goal of the game and second was unlucky Cech. Unlike the first game where we dire but didn't concede. Wing is always going to be a problem as our wingers move inside so Cole and Iva are more attacking and Mikel is ****. We had the same problem with crosses cming regularly against Wigan as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Didn't see the game but looks like Hazard was a menace again. Blimey did the start good or what. 2 crap teams, I know. But still... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkD Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Torres 1-1 Lukaku Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 22, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2012 What Hazard's doing will work against any quality team. His agility is frightening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm watching the game on SS2. Not that I haven't seen him before but definitely looks worth every penny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didier Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Just watched the highlights, Hazard looks cracking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Sounds harsh yeah, but I didn't mean it as an attack on him. Just something I've kept track of Heh, was the first thing I thought of when Ivanovic scored. Hazard is so good. Mikel was fantastic till we conceded then the team went to pot till the half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Heh, was the first thing I thought of when Ivanovic scored.Hazard is so good. Mikel was fantastic till we conceded then the team went to pot till the half. Mikel fantastic until called on to do any actual defending His possession play is nice, but jmr said, he just doesn't track runners at all which leaves us too exposed. Just got back from the match now and watching some of the highlights. Hazard is just amazing, thought some of his link up play with Mata was pretty tasty too, can't wait to see those two once they've fully gelled. Thought Torres was ok to be honest, obviously still not perfect, but got into some decent positions and I still think he'll come good once the new signings are used to his runs (he did run around a hell of a lot up top tonight) and think he will be good enough for us to challenge. Oscar looks like he's got some quality, my only slight worry is je looks a little slight, hope he doesn't get knocked off the ball too easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 22, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2012 Oscar got done by Leigertwood early after coming on and didn't get the free kick. He got himback not long after, totally snide but Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 It's been a long time since Chelsea had a team exciting as this. It's a joy watching Mata and Hazard play one-twos <3 Good times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I got the feeling Hazard will bring out the best in Mata too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoolblowsme Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 At home against anyone in the bottom half we should be playing two of three Lampard, Meireles, and Oscar in the midfield. With three of four Hazard, Mata, Marin, and Ramires. No need for Mikel in these games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hazard and Mata playing off each was pretty special, once they get to know each other they will destroy teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think we need a bit more of a physical presence in the middle, a younger fit Essien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Funny how nobody mentions dropping Lampard anymore. Not past it anymore I guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 LOL news of the day via ESPN: Reports suggesting that Man City could be keen to bring in Chelsea defender David Luiz for £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Funny how nobody mentions dropping Lampard anymore. Not past it anymore I guess? He is definitely better now coming deeper than usual but attacking the same. Not hard to choose him over Mikel in mid anyways Also very happy that we got someone to help Mata, i remember saying we need another Mata in the team, though not same but great combo. Hazard and him linked up instantly since the first game and will only improve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Eden Hazard is ridiculously good, he will be in a few years time up there with Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Müller1469564937 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Cech is one of the dodgiest goalkeepers I've ever seen. One day, he's absolutely brilliant and then the next, he's having another howler. Unfortunately, over the last couple of years, I've seen him have more howlers than amazing games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Cech's never been the same since his head injury tbh. He's declining quickly, though he's still better than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 don't worry about that, you've got the next best goalkeeper in the world in the form of Courtois Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hazard already looking a bargain. erm.... bargain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 23, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2012 Cech's never been the same since his head injury tbh.He's declining quickly, though he's still better than most. This is incorrect. One mistake and everyone falls back into this cliche. I wouldn't swap him for anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm not basing it on the last match, I didn't even see it. He just doesn't seem as confident as he used to be - every time I do see him he seems a lot less sure of himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Not sure if it is the head injury thing but he seems to have lost something. That was a shocker last night for their 2nd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I agree Cech's never been quite the same as he was before the injury, he is a little less confident, a little less in control of his area at all times, but he's still fb, still think he deserves to be undisputed number 1 and wouldn't want us to sign anyone else. I agree with mag man about a physical presence in midfield, we need someone who's going to offer a bit more pace and power in the middle than Mikel to give some protection to the back line, someone who can track the runners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I thought Cech had started to decline after the injury but last season he was absolutely superb. Last night was a one off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Bloody hell what a game for the emotions. Was sat in the MHU which was a nice change and it's so much better for a view of the pitch up there and had some nice people round me. In the Shed Upper for Newcastle so will decide between those two probably as my main seating for this season. Couldn't believe it when we went 2-1 down. Silly defending and apart from the header avoidable, although that could have been avoided. I though Hazard was brilliant and some of the stuff he does is incredible. I agree he needs to do it again the bigger teams as well but as Rolfe said the stuff he does has enough quality to beat most defenders, if not all if he gets it right. Thought Torres offered little apart from a couple of flashes and his goal was simple but at least he got one, confidence booster hopefully. I think we need to learn to really go at a team when we take the lead. We seem to take our foot off the pedal way too easily. If Mata, Hazard and Oscar learn to play together well then it will be amazing. And no El Sid your not alone, I have an unhealthy obsession with Hazard too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckkj15 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 This is incorrect. One mistake and everyone falls back into this cliche.I wouldn't swap him for anyone. You wouldn't swap him with anyone? Come on now don't be silly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Müller1469564937 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I thought Cech had started to decline after the injury but last season he was absolutely superb. Last night was a one off. Pretty sure he made a fair few mistakes during this years European Championship, too. Nothing will ever beat his howler during Euro '08 though. One of the worst pieces of goalkeeping I've ever seen in my entire life, seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 We could really do with someone like Fellaini in midfield elbowing people because like Bridgekings says, we are soft. His price has just gone up another 5-10million after that Man Utd game though :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silv3rf0xx Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 i think there has been some harshness towards torres and cech on here firstly you would have to say that the goal against barca was decisive and last nights because if torres didnt score last night reading wouldnt be attacking soo much with their keeper up too so the ivanovic goal is a result of the torres goal. secondly i think that cech is slightly different but to say he is in decline is soo prem he is still up their with the best just miss judged the flight and bounce of the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 23, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2012 Torres was ****. Nearly cocked up a tap-in by being offside ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Müller1469564937 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 How many goals you scored this season, mate? Oh, right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What do you think of Cavani Phil? Not that i'm expecting to sign him at all. If we were to sign a forward who'd be peoples picks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Either Llorente or Cavani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Pretty sure he made a fair few mistakes during this years European Championship, too. Nothing will ever beat his howler during Euro '08 though. One of the worst pieces of goalkeeping I've ever seen in my entire life, seriously. Yeah, wasn't really thinking of the Euros, more for Chelsea and the CL semi and final in particular. Striker wise if everyone was the same price Falcao please, don't think he's necessarily £10m better than Cavani but just someone who can bloody score please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Torres last night looked liked a player who didn't have any competition pushing for his place; at least last season you could see him working hard (and being rubbish) because Drogba was around. I feel he doesn't really get into good goal scoring positions either and can't really complain about a lack of creativity behind him anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Also I don't think he is really suited against teams that will drop deep against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Müller1469564937 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Falcao would be a quality signing, but haven't Anzhi put in a bid for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Really don't see what the Torres hatred because of last night is about, thought he showed some decent touches and made some good runs, one in the first half where he went past 3 players looked particularly good (though my view of it was a bit obstructed). He's a player who likes to be on the shoulder of the last defender, and we've been used to strikers who drop deep and link up more, we need to learn to pick out his runs or he needs to learn to sometimes drop deeper again. I don't think he's perfect, but he certainly wasn't terrible last night, just average, got the goal (after taking part in the move) and that's in the end what counts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 You wouldn't swap him with anyone? Come on now don't be silly Maybe Courtois in 2-3 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 23, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2012 You wouldn't swap him with anyone? Come on now don't be silly I'm not being silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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