Senegal's Arsenal Thread 2012/2013 : featuring positive negativity

[Sy13]

This Cazorla deal is either another Giroud or Mata situation. I hope AW has learned from last summer.

[Suggy33]

This Cazorla deal is either another Giroud or Mata situation. I hope AW has learned from last summer.

So we'll either sign or not sign him?

[Llew_Arshavin23]

Was the Juan Mata deal last Summer even as advanced as this?

I wonder if Cazorla wasn't Spanish, we'd all be more confident in signing him. There's no viable grounds on which you can say it will be 'another Mata situation'. (That's not mean to sound bitter, by the way.)

[Sy13]

Was the Juan Mata deal last Summer even as advanced as this?

I wonder if Cazorla wasn't Spanish, we'd all be more confident in signing him. There's no viable grounds on which you can say it will be 'another Mata situation'. (That's not mean to sound bitter, by the way.)

Well if another club come in late to sign him then it'll be exactly like the Mata transfer.

[Suggy33]

Nico Yennaris signs a new contract

[Tiesto123456]

is cazorla really that top class i seen clips on youtube of him and he looks technically very good but his stats are not amazing.

Last season for malaga played 38 scored 9 assists 5

[ajw10]

journalist in Malaga is saying the deal is done and will be announced tomorrow. Fun

Some talk that we're only paying €15m for him, which would be mad.

[Robert the Spud]

is cazorla really that top class i seen clips on youtube of him and he looks technically very good but his stats are not amazing.

Last season for malaga played 38 scored 9 assists 5

Top class is Iniesta, so no, Cazorla is not in that league. But he's a very, very good player. It surprises me that Real want to ***** £30m on Modric and not just buy Cazorla instead, who is Spanish and cheaper. Though they are slightly different in the roles they full fill.

[ajw10]

is cazorla really that top class i seen clips on youtube of him and he looks technically very good but his stats are not amazing.

Last season for malaga played 38 scored 9 assists 5

Using stats He played 34 games I believe and played all over midfield. He is top class.

Pretty sure Iniesta and Cazorla can both be considered top class.

[Robert the Spud]

Using stats He played 34 games I believe and played all over midfield. He is top class.

Pretty sure Iniesta and Cazorla can both be considered top class.

Well if Cazorla is considered 'top' class, then Iniesta must be 'top top top' class. Semantics, but they are not equals obviously. Though as I said, Caz is very very good, and I wish we could have bought him to replace the rat.

[dfgrigg]

is cazorla really that top class i seen clips on youtube of him and he looks technically very good but his stats are not amazing.

Last season for malaga played 38 scored 9 assists 5

Good article about him by Sid Lowe (very good Guardian and SI journalist). I don't watch La Liga much myself, but Sid rates him very highly.

[Noob21]

Using stats He played 34 games I believe and played all over midfield. He is top class.

Pretty sure Iniesta and Cazorla can both be considered top class.

Iniesta is a more complete inside dribbler/playmaker

Cazorla is more of a roaming winger/ secondary playmaker

Pretty much on a lower level than Iniesta and Silva but on the same level of Mata imo

[Suggy33]

Arsenal XI playing tonight and Afobe is not in the squad. I saw that Bolton and Milwall wanted him on loan, so I guess he's going to one of those 2 pretty soon.

[SJ234]

We are the north bank who are apparently very reliable are saying it will be completed tomorrow for 22million euros which would make him our record signing. He was our main target for the playmaker role alongside Goetze and Ganso.

[ajw10]

Losing to Dartford, Wenger out, Burton out, shut the club down now.

[SJ234]

Ramsey has been looking quite good in the olympic football

[Sy13]

Ramsey has been looking quite good in the olympic football

Seriously?

He was awful tonight second half.

[\'GillesGrimandi_18]

It's shameful that a youngster like Ramsey had boo boys last season. Imo it's things like that that enable other players to justify showing no loyalty to a club.

[SJ234]

Seriously?He was awful tonight second half.

He has generally been good

[ajw10]

Ramsey was not awful in the second half ffs

Cazorla signs today lads \o/

[Chr1s Lawson]

Ramsey has looked good at the Olympics and has been one of the go to players. Bbc sport website main page has us in for both cazorla & sahin!

[Kawee]

I still think we need a striker if RvP leaves.

The Sahin deal, although quite exciting, doesn't make a lot of sense unless someone leaves. It wasn't long ago Wenger said we were already full in the DM and B2B departments. Could we see someone like Song leaves?

[Sparky9334]

It appears some will never give Ramsey a second chance now, even when he does well they will still find fault.

Admittedly he was poor last season, but he has done well for team GB, and I hope he gets a chance with us again. he was so overused last year, in what was his first full season back after serious injury.

I can see him doing really well for a few seasons, getting into the last year of his contract, not signing, and those who booed him accusing him of lack of loyalty

[g00n]

I think IF we do sign Sahin on loan, it might have something to do with the injury records of players like Wilshere, Rosicky and Diaby.

[Sparky9334]

I'd love Sahin on loan, but it feels like we are just being used to prepare him for first team action at Madrid. We'd have him a year, give him top level games, and he'd go back ready for their first team.

[ajw10]

I still think we need a striker if RvP leaves.

The Sahin deal, although quite exciting, doesn't make a lot of sense unless someone leaves. It wasn't long ago Wenger said we were already full in the DM and B2B departments. Could we see someone like Song leaves?

Wenger lies all the time. He was always looking at another midfielder especially with Wilshere's injury record.

[djvandyke]

I’m also a bit uncomfortable with a loan move for Sahin, if he does well but he will go back to Madrid. We really are just an academy for the big clubs to exploit.

[ajw10]

and if he flops we can send him back. If he does well then I'm sure we can reach an agreement with Madrid for the transfer.

[djvandyke]

If we agreed some kind of option to buy at end of the loan then perfect.

[ajw10]

Yeah I think this is why the deal is dragging on. Pretty sure Sahin wants there to be a loan to buy option.

This Song to Barcelona stuff is unnerving. Getting a bit concerned now. If he does go we need to go in for M'Vila, not just rely on Sahin.

Ryo is going to Wigan on loan by the looks of things.

[Sparky9334]

Good move for Ryo, Wigan play some good football and hopefully he'll get some games.

Heard the Song stuff too, I'm hoping its just paper talk with no substance.

[SJ234]

It appears some will never give Ramsey a second chance now, even when he does well they will still find fault.

Admittedly he was poor last season, but he has done well for team GB, and I hope he gets a chance with us again. he was so overused last year, in what was his first full season back after serious injury.

I can see him doing really well for a few seasons, getting into the last year of his contract, not signing, and those who booed him accusing him of lack of loyalty

He is an exciting player with lots ability. Just hope the majority of fans support him. I think he could have a good season

Yeah I think this is why the deal is dragging on. Pretty sure Sahin wants there to be a loan to buy option.

This Song to Barcelona stuff is unnerving. Getting a bit concerned now. If he does go we need to go in for M'Vila, not just rely on Sahin.

Ryo is going to Wigan on loan by the looks of things.

Madrid don't want one and that in essence is the issues with the deal it seems. Song to Barca is hardly surprising considering who his agent is and his contract situation. I doubt we would go for M'Vila as the club seemingly see his price as too high and Rennes don't see the need to reduce it. We have been linked to Wanyama of Celtic who is a holding mid as far as I understand.

Good move for Ryo

[Chr1s Lawson]

Yeah I think this is why the deal is dragging on. Pretty sure Sahin wants there to be a loan to buy option.

This Song to Barcelona stuff is unnerving. Getting a bit concerned now. If he does go we need to go in for M'Vila, not just rely on Sahin.

Ryo is going to Wigan on loan by the looks of things.

Song to Barca doesn't make sense to me, they have baskets & mascherano just signed a new deal! They never usually have more than 2 players in each position.

[dfgrigg]

Mascherano tends to play more as a centreback these days. I would guess Song would be the replacement for Keita, if there's any truth in at all.

Either that or they plan to play Song as a CB.

[SJ234]

Song to Barca doesn't make sense to me, they have baskets & mascherano just signed a new deal! They never usually have more than 2 players in each position.

It would be to play at Cb or Keita replacement. Two birds with one stone

[Suggy33]

Ryo to Wigan and Afobe to Bolton both good moves.

Sahin and Cazorla nearing ever closer also which is brilliant.

If Song goes, I think that clears the way for M'Vila/Capoue to come in, as he is primarily our defensive midfielder and not a passing wizard.

Also, which match would you choose out of the home games vs Sunderland and Southampton? Wanna go see us before I go back to uni and they're the only viable options (will be on my lonesome though).

[dfgrigg]

Southampton. Promoted teams are normally good fun, whereas O'Neill will just pack the midfield and try to nick a goal.

[ajw10]

Southampton if you want to see a good match, Sunderland if you want to abuse MoN.

[Sparky9334]

BBC got the Sahin and Carzola deals near as their main story.

And Southampton is the game I'd chose too

[Suggy33]

Southampton it is. Tickets not out for another fortnight though so fingers crossed I can get one

[ajw10]

Journalist from Malaga seems to think that we are not done with Malaga.

[Sparky9334]

As in we are looking at another player, or its not going to happen?

[ajw10]

the former, dont panic, Cazorla is done

[Sparky9334]

I know very little of the Malaga squad, who else do they have who we might be interested in?

[Suggy33]

Toulalan and Rondon the first two that spring to mind, I know they have a reasonable LB and RB too, then there is Isco the youngster.

[dfgrigg]

I know very little of the Malaga squad, who else do they have who we might be interested in?

Well, there's Isco - young Spanish attacking midfielder, looks like he'll be a real player. Can't really see us going for him as well as Cazorla though.

[SJ234]

Also some players in their academy who us and Barcelona are in for apparently.

[Chr1s Lawson]

It would be to play at Cb or Keita replacement. Two birds with one stone

Keita never played a game before 70 minutes for them, can't see song settling for subs role, which would be the case if pique and poo hole stay fit!

[Llew_Arshavin23]

Sergio Busquets has been speaking about Alex Song... on Barça's official website! This is what he's said;

"Song is a very good player. Young, hard-working and physically strong."

He was asked about particular defensive midfielder targets, but why to Barça have to put it on their website?

[Jisntdaman]

Because they're *****