Henry_14 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 now grant holt moaning about fab time wasting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 3-1!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 happy now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Co-com's still whining about the penalty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 "technically it was a foul but norwich will be hard done by because the lino was 35 yards away" - so its a foul and pen then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Warren Barton's just said post match that the right call was made! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jisntdaman Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 We've won 5 out of 5 since Sy left the thread. Stay out please, ta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Got out of Newgate but at this stage of the season will definitely take that gratefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Arsenal are trying to kill me. That was ridiculous. 3 points though all good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 as i said a while back i don't care about performance now - as long as we get the points we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I just put on Facebook a second before you got that pen "If they pull this off I'll buy all of Delia's cookbooks" - what a muppet, should never jinx it!!! Grrrr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 We've won 5 out of 5 since Sy left the thread. Stay out please, ta. Same can be said of Wilshere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 So, you going to go and buy them now then? I think he meant if Norwich pull it off... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I think he meant if Norwich pull it off... Ah,got yer. Duh@ me indeed! Shouldn't read things too quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Bassong own goal to win it. Couldn't have scripted it better myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Gervinho is such an average average player for a UCL club. Now that his overachieving form is over, lets get back the real players like Walcott and Podolski into the side. Our 3 attacking midfielders against Everton have to be 3 of Cazorla/Rosicky/Walcott/Podolski. The difference between Rosicky and Jack was massive. Hopefully the Mozart will return for our game against the in-form Everton. Just a word on Giroud. It's always tough coming to a new club and country, especially considering he was playing third tier in France not so long ago. He's been on a pretty rough patch, but I thought he did well today. Things don't always work out for him, but I like what he brings to the team. He does his job well as a target man by holding the ball, bringing others into play, and providing actual threat for our crossers. For our 3rd goal, although Walcott was offside, Giroud proved his worth by winning that flick-on header for Walcott. His presence in our box when we defend corners is also very valuable. We'll still need better than him if we want to move forward, but after what I've seen in this season, I think he's definitely a useful player to have at our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 That's as fair a summary of Giroud that I've seen. Completely agree with it. He's a really good player but he shouldn't be THE striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 His hold up play is truly excellent. Probably the best striker I can remember us having at that. However he can sometimes be too intricate. He needs to keep working on his goal scoring but he has a decent record this season Regarding Gervinho the player is in there it is just about getting him to not panic or whatever he does to ruin the great opportunities he creates with his wonderful movement and sometimes excellent dribbling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Some people see Gervinho as a good player who needs to be nurtured so he reaches his potential. All I see is an average player occasionally overachieving. The former tag, I'd more readily put on Arshavin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 I don't know know anyone who thinks gervinho is good or even potentially good. He's poor... But occasionally does something useful. A bit like Perry Groves was... Except worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Just seen the penalty award... wtf is Tony Gale watching? So what if the lino was further away? I would have been furious if that wasn't given and we lost, tbf on the replay the ref might not have seen the shirt being pulled but that's why you consult your assistant and he's the one who saw a stretched red shirt and gave it. Refs that "don't give those" bottle it since there would be multiple penners in every game, but a foul in the box is just that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 yeah the commentators made it sound like it wasn't a penalty because the referee didn't give it and the linesman who was further away did give it, wouldn't say I'd have been majorly pissed off if we hadn't got given it because it's not like a proper nailed on penalty, but obviously pleased we did get given it and Arteta didn't bottle the pen etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Lots of discussion about the corner and penalty decision we got but none about kamara tripping over his own feet and getting the free kick that led to their goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergkamp Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It was maybe a bit of a soft penalty, but it probably was just about a penalty. I agree about the commentator. So what if the Refs 10 yards away and hasn't given it, hes seen it and judged it wrong. But the lino's seen it and judged it right, its as simple as that! About Giroud, I know some didn't come off today, but his little touches and build up play is really good, it shows his intelligence and awareness. Overall, not a great performance. We lacked cohesion and sharpness in our play but we kept going and got the win, (I don't mean to sound like Wenger, but its true ) It was one of those typical Arsenal off days for 75 minutes. If we can beat Everton on Tuesday we're in a great position, C'MON!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 game against Everton is massive, if we can win that I'll be a lot lot more positive about us grabbing top four. draw it and will be a bit pessimistic, lose it and we're in a shambles again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergkamp Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 game against Everton is massive, if we can win that I'll be a lot lot more positive about us grabbing top four. draw it and will be a bit pessimistic, lose it and we're in a shambles again. Well I don't no about a shambles if we lose. In theory spurs could go 2 points ahead and still have to play City and Chelsea. But I know what you mean. We're on a good run at the moment and have somehow found ourselves with a great chance despite numerous slip ups, so we MUST be ruthless now, we've had enough warnings. Not only that, I want us to be aiming for third now, let alone 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 yeah would be nice not to have that ******* qualifier that comes with coming 4th, although it's at the point where we're desperate enough just for 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 A big factor in the Everton game is that a victory for Everton would really make it 2 from 4 chase, rather than than the 2 from 3 it looks like at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Personally, all I care is that 1. We get top 4 2. We finish above Spurs Coming 3rd and Spurs finishing 5th would be very sweet and ideal (and quite unbelievable) but I'd settle for 4th and Spurs 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I just put on Facebook a second before you got that pen "If they pull this off I'll buy all of Delia's cookbooks" - what a muppet, should never jinx it!!! Grrrr I have a few, quite good actually and it'll come as no surprise that most of her recipes contain booze!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'd happily have Mignolet next season. I'm not just judging him on today either, I've been impressed with him for the last 2 seasons. He shouldn't be that expensive and he's really good so yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm not saying Mignolet isn't better than what we have, I just think that with limited resources, there are other areas we should invest on before the goalkeeping department. Like, I'd rather we invest a lot of money on a star striker. 2nd priority for me would be another midfielder. Since we've lost Diaby, there is really only Arteta, Wilshere, and Ramsey who are considered as our midfield duo. At the end of the day, it comes down to priorities. Some will think a new goalkeeper is needed, but I think we can all agree on the striker need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Great, successful teams always have at least one top striker and a top keeper. Lets nail those positions down first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Great, successful teams always have at least one top striker and a top keeper. Lets nail those positions down first. It's all about opportunity cost though. If we can get those 2 within budget, then yes, of course any fan would be all for it. Our last decent keeper, Lehmann, only cost like 2.5m, is it is possible. However, given how tight we've been with our spending, I just think we're better served investing in a striker and a midfielder right now. Woj and Fab aren't great, but I think they're both young and getting better. Most importantly, I don't think goalkeeper is the reason we have poor defense. It's more to do with our training, organization, and discipline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Which seems to have improved recently. I think Woj will become good but he is very young for a GK and I wouldn't be surprised if he was our starter at the beginning of next season having recovered some form. Last season we had that player who could get the goals when really needed them but we didn't have a good spread. Now we have a superb spread all we need is someone who can score the goals on a consistent basis when we need them. What we have is some players whose goal scoring tally is inflated by scoring a lot in big wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The Arteta/Ramsey combo has been crucial in our defensive improvements. They've provided better protection than even when Song was with us, and for the first time in a long time, we have midfielders who actually track runs. Our defense is still full of holes though, but at least it's still a bit more patched up than before. Fun Fact, of the EPL players who have registerd 50+ tackles this season, Ramsey has the highest success rate at 90.74%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, big big big game today. Rosicky could make a return, especially with Jack looking a bit off pace. Personally, I prefer the experienced Czech at the moment. However, if he's not starting, then I still wouldn't start Jack. I'd move Cazorla back into the middle, and start Podolski on the left. Walcott should return to the right, because Gervinho overachieving form looks like its come to an end. Wenger has been talking up about Podolski as a striker though, so we could see him start in place of Giroud who has had to play a lot of minutes lately. Mertesacker has also served his suspension so it's interesting to see which pair Wenger goes for. Vermaelen didn't do too much wrong against Norwich, but I think currently, Per and Kos are still out best duo. Having said that, Anichebe is not only big, but also fast, so that might be a problem not suited for Per. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Podolski needs to play tonight,it baffles that a plater like gervinho can start ahead of him and from the outside looking in his attitude has been great and he's always thinking positively. We have a good record at home to Everton and I dont think its unfair to expect a win, though winning six on the trot is practically unheard of with the Arsenal of the last few years! I expect a far more open game providing Everton dont take the lead as they are less inclined to get everyone behind the ball than a team like Norwich. Hopefully the fact that Everton will have a go at us might play into our hands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, big big big game today. Rosicky could make a return, especially with Jack looking a bit off pace. Personally, I prefer the experienced Czech at the moment. However, if he's not starting, then I still wouldn't start Jack. I'd move Cazorla back into the middle, and start Podolski on the left. Walcott should return to the right, because Gervinho overachieving form looks like its come to an end. Wenger has been talking up about Podolski as a striker though, so we could see him start in place of Giroud who has had to play a lot of minutes lately.Mertesacker has also served his suspension so it's interesting to see which pair Wenger goes for. Vermaelen didn't do too much wrong against Norwich, but I think currently, Per and Kos are still out best duo. Having said that, Anichebe is not only big, but also fast, so that might be a problem not suited for Per. I don't buy this gervinho over achieving since he is actually quite good as shown by his performances for Ivory Coast and Lille. It is just his confidence was killed by the Arsenal fans. Regarding TV when Howson went through on goal he was sucked into I think Holt when Koscielny was the one challenging him for the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If Vermalen starts I'll cry. He was completely caught under the ball for Nowrich's goal and SJ says he was sucked in for the Howson chance. Anichebe has all the tools to destroy our defence. Big, strong, fast and not that good. I expect him to cause us plenty of problems but starting Vermalen is far from an answer to any of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I've never seen Gervinho play for Ivory Coast or Lille, so I can't comment, but in the words of Rhett Butler, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." The Gervinho I see play for Arsenal has looked, at least to me, very average for a top four club. Even when he's on one of his "good form," he isn't all that great. He isn't some super talent who should require us nurturing his goddamn mind. That tag would be more Arshavin, whose failure is a mix bag of his own failings and Wenger mismanagement. Now that's a talent worth nurturing because when he's on fire, he's probably more dynamite than anyone we have at the club. If you're only average, which I think Gervinho is, you shouldn't also be high maintenance. If every player require such attention every time fans give them stick, we'd fall apart. Look at how Ramsey has bounced back. The manager has given Gervinho all the backing one can expect (at least in the media,) and has also shown faith by giving him playing time. Yet Gervinho, for the most case, has repaid that with mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 just seen Aliadiere on that anti-baldness advert Shane Warne does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 just seen Aliadiere on that anti-baldness advert Shane Warne does http://www.advancedhairstudios.co.uk/celebrity-jeremie-aliandiere.htmlYou mean "soccer legend" Jeremie Aliadiere :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Szczesney's back. Why am I slightly less confident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergkamp Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I suppose was always gonna be a tough games, Everton defended really well, didn't do much else. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but soo frustrating. We didn't play that great again, especially first half. I think Wenger could have had more of a say tactically tonight. Why does he bother starting Cazorla on the left?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 This doesn't change anything for us really as we should have expected to draw this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What? Mental thing to say. Time to cut our losses with Giroud. Had enough of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillesGrimandi18 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Said it in the match thread but Ramsey was fantastic tonight - great energy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergkamp Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What? Mental thing to say.Time to cut our losses with Giroud. Had enough of him. Depends what you mean by cut our losses? We certainly need a top striker as our no 1, with Giroud as another option, in my opinion. Wonder what Wenger's thinking...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Giroud is an option not the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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